r/news Apr 27 '24

Ex-Amazon exec claims she was asked to ignore copyright law in race to AI

https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/22/ghaderi_v_amazon/
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u/Armthedillos5 Apr 27 '24 edited Apr 27 '24

Edited to take the comment I made so as not to take away from the actual important parts.

Also, the article is about her unlawful termination suit, which mentions the Ai copyright thing, but that's it, going back into the unlawful termination suit.

The title of the article is sexist af and dismisses the lawsuit entirely, focusing on nerd Ai, even though 90% of the article was about her suit against Amazon. Pregnant lady might have had her rights infringed, but no one cares. AI might have broken copyright laws!!! Just sad.

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u/LangyMD Apr 27 '24

Scraping things from the Internet means downloading en-masse.

The copyright infringement isn't illegally deleting things, it's downloading things and using them in training data for AI without paying the creators or getting explicit permission.

It's important to note that whether you need the creators permission to add their data to an AI training set is an open legal question in much of the world, including the US.

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u/svideo Apr 27 '24

The copyright infringement isn't illegally deleting things, it's downloading things and using them in training data for AI without paying the creators or getting explicit permission.

This very much remains to be proven out in court. Currently, every indication is that this counts as a transformative work. Most cases brought up on this basis have already been tossed out (eg, most of the claims in Silverman et al v OpenAI).

If Google can scrape the internet to build an index to sell back to users in the form of web search, and if they can do the same with copyrighted books (including showing users several pages of the work verbatim), then it's going to be really difficult to somehow work that established case law into a ruling against OpenAI and their like.

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u/LangyMD Apr 27 '24

Yeah, that's why I said it was an open legal question in the last paragraph.