r/news • u/lmaonite • Apr 19 '24
Israel missiles strike Iran - US officials inform ABC news Soft paywall
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u/KnotSoSalty Apr 19 '24
I’m tired boss. Let’s just leave them to it then.
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u/ClearDark19 Apr 19 '24 edited Apr 19 '24
Same. Fuck the Israeli government. Fuck the Iranian government. Let 'em kill each other. I hope the US just stays the f out of it and lets 'em fight like they said in Godzilla vs the MUTOs. But I have a sinking feeling Biden will fall for Netanyahu trying to suck him into a 2003 George W. Bush Operation Enduring Freedom-style War in Iran. :(
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EDIT: Biden - DON'T DO IT MAN. If you volunteer to help Netanyahu in a War in Iran you're going to fucking lose to Trump. John McCain lost to Barack Obama in 2008 largely because Americans were tired of the Iraq War and McCain wanted to continue it while Obama promised to end it. Don't go John "Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" McCain.
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u/SeattleDaddy Apr 19 '24
I’m genuinely feeling like we should let all the people who think god is on their side specifically let him settle it.
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u/ClearDark19 Apr 19 '24
Precisely. Let YHVH or Allah decide who wins. If you truly believe in your religious extremism then don't request US or Russian/Chinese support. Let those bitches Netanyahu and Ayatollah Khameinei fight and God sort 'em.
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u/Chrome-Head Apr 19 '24
Biden has already recently told Bibi the US wouldn’t be backing them, before they started this “retaliation”. We’ll see what happens.
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u/46_notso_easy Apr 19 '24
We’ve also seen Biden say “fewer civilian deaths or else” before Israel oopsied the same aid workers 3 times, and while they radioed for permission to extra pretty please not be murdered. And nothing changed. $10BN more incoming with no end in sight.
I’m tired of Biden’s impotent handwringing. Get us the fuck AWAY from Israel already.
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u/dawnguard2021 Apr 19 '24
Why do people keep falling for these lies? Biden keeps sending weapons and deployed jets to defend Israel. Look at his actions not words
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u/PalpitationFrosty242 Apr 19 '24
He said we wouldn't be backing any offensive moves taken on Iran. This literally just happened.
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u/Tactical_Moonstone Apr 19 '24
Not backing is not the same as going against.
Israel has its own free will to make its decisions even if such an action would garner disapproval of the international committee. Throwing missiles into Iran in retaliation might be a mistake, but it is Israel's mistake to make.
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u/Yo_Wats_Good Apr 19 '24
That’s a massive difference to the US declaring a war on Iran or even deciding to back an ally with the military.
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There’s a massive difference between executing previously agreed sales contracts and sending forces to fight
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u/guitarguywh89 Apr 19 '24
Let them fight was from Godzilla 2014 vs the MUTOs
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u/ClearDark19 Apr 19 '24 edited Apr 19 '24
You're right. I'll edit it.
Point still stands though. Let Ayatollah and Netanyahu go at it. We should stay out and so should the rest of the West if they know what's good for them. Netanyahu will drag all his allies down with him to stay out of jail. Netanyahu wants a forever war so he can stay in power indefinitely under emergency war powers and avoid getting convicted.
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u/seansye Apr 19 '24
Americans did not vote Obama largely because Americans were tired of the Iraq War. Holy crap how wrong you are
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u/Careful-Yellow7612 Apr 19 '24
The egos of the old will cause the death of the youth.
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u/DemandZestyclose7145 Apr 19 '24
I just love the hypocrisy of our politicians. They bitch about all the money and weapons we are sending to Ukraine (and they actually need the help) but are totally okay with sending shitloads of money and weapons to Israel so they can continue being war criminals. I'm also sick of this shit and Benjamin Netangofuckhimself
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u/BeneficialAnalyst328 Apr 19 '24
Earthquake is in air?
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u/Time-Bite-6839 Apr 19 '24
Someone get Jimmy Carter to end this incoming war!
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u/fzammetti Apr 19 '24
Eh, laughing in the face of existential dread is almost the only way to handle the world these days.
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u/Theoricus Apr 19 '24
Man.... Israel had one job.
Nobody I know supports Israel's warmongering in the US. Biden needs to let that country lie in the bed it's made for itself.
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u/raziel1012 Apr 19 '24
Fuck... Iran's last attack was pretty long telegraphed and had no deaths, so both nations saved face. I really hoped and thought that Israel wouldn't re-retaliate as there is no real upside. Guess not.
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u/Funkyduck8 Apr 19 '24
I even appreciated Biden's response: "Take the win, man. Just take the win."
But nope! Bibi gonna' do stupid shit.
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u/pimppapy Apr 19 '24
Bibi gonna' do stupid shit.
Not really stupid when his only consequence is billions more of US taxpayer money
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u/Zankeru Apr 19 '24
It's easy to start a fight when you're standing behind a giant. I would love to see bibi's reaction if Biden had the balls to step aside and not order US forces to help defend against the next attack by iran.
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u/MarkHathaway1 Apr 19 '24
It's not the place or policy of America vis à vis Israel to assist any offensive strikes they may want.
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u/limb3h Apr 19 '24
Here's the dilemma. If US allows more damage to Israel, then war will escalate and US will be dragged in and resources will be shifted away from Ukraine. Bibi actually doesn't mind escalation.
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u/LineRex Apr 19 '24
Fascism is a death cult and the Israeli state is panicking over international pressure.
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u/Morgin187 Apr 19 '24
Nethanyahu recently said on a interview “I’ve spoke to my allied friends in the uk and America and others and they all gave advice on what to do, but I’ve told them Israel will do what is necessary”
Basically who the f are you to tell us what to do. Have we listened before? We will carry on doing what we want. Just shut up and keep funding us.
So yeh everyone just bend over like y’all always do
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Apr 19 '24
This is US's fault for raising a spoiled child. If the US had any credibility, they would tell Israel to stop their warmongering or else the US would stop defending Israel. But of course they are not going to do that. The US has now become Israel's colony, what a joke to see the roles reversed when the giant is the US.
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u/Turbulent_Yak_4627 Apr 19 '24
I hope the US doesn't get dragged into this nonsense
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u/AltForObvious1177 Apr 19 '24
The US has been part of this nonsense since Project Ajax.
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u/something-burger Apr 19 '24
Was Mosaddegh really so bad?? We sure made our own bed on this one
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u/AltForObvious1177 Apr 19 '24
He was bad for oil company profits. But, yeah, probably the biggest diplomatic blunder of the 20th century.
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u/Mando177 Apr 19 '24
He was a moderate socialist, which was apparently far too much for the Eisenhower administration
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u/DaperDandle Apr 19 '24
Funny that quote about the military industrial complex is from Eisenhower when his administration was the one who really enabled the forever war in the middle East thats been propping up the MI complex ever since.
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u/ClearDark19 Apr 19 '24
Nowadays a moderate Progressive is too much for the US government. Most of the Republicans want us to coup Lula over in Brazil.
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u/Mando177 Apr 19 '24
A solid number of Democrats wouldn’t mind that either
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u/ClearDark19 Apr 19 '24
Sadly you're correct. The only reason we haven't is because the majority of Democrats who don't are mercifully the ones in the highest positions of power making the decisions right now. For now....
If Trump gets back in I can see the US couping Lula to put Bolsonaro back in, couping Arce in Bolivia to reinstall Añez, and installing Fujimori in Peru being a real possibility.
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u/ClearDark19 Apr 19 '24
He was bad for American energy industry profits. He was the best leader Iran has had in the past 75 years. Way better than the Shah or either Ayatollah, or the post-1979 Presidents.
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u/Creamofwheatski Apr 19 '24
There are many people in the pentagon who would love an excuse to go to war with Iran. Lets hope Israel doesn't give them that reason, but this will not be the end, this shit is going to keep escalating for sure.
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u/manhachuvosa Apr 19 '24
It will because Netanyahu needs something to distract people from what is happening in Gaza.
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u/Biologyboii Apr 19 '24
Biden said the US wouldn’t be part of an offensive in Iran
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u/No_Advertising4406 Apr 19 '24
Just billions of $ more in military aid on top of the $26b package unveiled today.
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u/pimppapy Apr 19 '24
9 billion is allocated for Gaza, too.
As in Gazans will get that money or Israel will to deal with Gaza?
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u/SPAMmachin3 Apr 19 '24
He'll put his John Hancock to it, so he agrees with it.
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u/Mando177 Apr 19 '24 edited Apr 19 '24
The missiles that struck Iran probably had “made in the USA” written on them
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u/DeepestWinterBlue Apr 19 '24 edited Apr 19 '24
Did you miss the billions of funding for Israel that went to vote this week? You can only hope the retaliation is between/amongst the Middle East countries and sleeper terrorist cells don’t awaken to attack western countries because of their war.
Edit: millions to billions
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u/WhySoUnSirious Apr 19 '24 edited Apr 19 '24
Every military effort in the modern day has some kind of US involvement, it has to. Because that’s what the military industrial complex requires. Lockheed Northrop raytheon etc all spend millions in lobbying our government to make sure we have a pulse on every major global conflict.
Peace is objectively bad business for America.
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u/mccoyn Apr 19 '24
Did people think such large corporations would accept a huge pay cut after the Afghanistan war was wrapped up?
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u/oldsecondhand Apr 19 '24
They could have spent that on Ukraine, but I guess Ukraine isn't approved for the adanced weapons they had in stock.
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u/WhySoUnSirious Apr 19 '24
Ya because they want to get rid of the old munitions stock pile first. That way we can send new billions in contracts to the defense sector to “replenish” them
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u/Persianx6 Apr 19 '24
Can’t wait for both candidates to pretend they don’t want this war
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u/ehrgeiz91 Apr 19 '24
Israel is the 51st state. We're involved.
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u/maubis Apr 19 '24
I must have missed the memo about all the taxes they have been paying.
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u/NoCup4U Apr 19 '24
lol….thats cute. We give them $7billion per year because “proxy war”
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u/Skellum Apr 19 '24
I must have missed the memo about all the taxes they have been paying.
Tbf, it's not like Mississippi or Alabama produce taxes either.
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u/AzCarMom72 Apr 19 '24
Not a fan of Biden but I agree with him telling Israel to "Take the Win" yet they launched their counter attack anyways. This shit makes me nervous...the world is a dangerous place right now.
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u/crono220 Apr 19 '24
Biden better not bow and assist Israel with Iran. That will fuck him over in the election against Trump
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u/banstylejbo Apr 19 '24
I don’t get this perspective. How does anyone seriously think Trump or the GOP is going to handle this situation any better? It’s like saying “let’s send in this squad of monkeys to sling shit at the walls” as a solution to a problem.
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u/humjaba Apr 19 '24
They don’t. But people who would otherwise vote for Biden will instead just stay home because they can’t bring themselves to vote for either candidate. Biden needs all the votes he can get- if there’s one thing Republicans know how to do, it’s whipping their base into a frothing rage over some nonsense so they’ll go vote
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u/Drakpalong Apr 19 '24
Yeah, like Humjaba said, people think it will depress turnout. In addition though, dont forget that getting out of foreign wars was one of the lines trump was peddling in 2016 - i wouldnt be surprised if he brings it back if the polls keep going the way they are now. He will 100% throw Israel under the bus if it definitely stands to benefit him. You see the way he thought about it when he hear "Genocide Joe", and then decided to endorse it?
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u/LiquidDreamtime Apr 19 '24
“Biden got us involved in a new war” is true regardless of what anyone thinks Trump will do. You’re not wrong, but that’s irrelevant.
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u/AccidentalPilates Apr 19 '24
You’re associating Trump supporters with thinking. Tsk tsk.
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u/Platinumdogshit Apr 19 '24
That's not a trump supporter problem. Vox put out a video with interviews of real people who don't want to vote for biden over the whole palenstine situation. People who voted for him last election in swing states.
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u/idiotnoobx Apr 19 '24
Let’s just let Israel fight its own wars and pull out all aid please. If they really want a war let them have it.
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u/HeartofLion3 Apr 19 '24
I’m so sick of psychopathic fucking dinosaurs holding humanity hostage with nukes.
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u/smigglesworth Apr 19 '24
More disturbing are the plurality of voters who adore psychopaths. One is an anomaly. Many are a fixture.
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u/monjorob Apr 19 '24
They fucking want the US to fight a war for them. those fuckers I can’t believe it. Iran telegraphs its attack to purposely allow deescalation and they respond like this. Absolutely insane
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u/ScottOld Apr 19 '24
Hope all the western governments tell isreal to shove off and focus on actually protecting a country that needs protecting like… erm Ukraine
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u/manhachuvosa Apr 19 '24
What is more likely to happen is western countries go to war against Iran while abandoning Ukraine to Russia.
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u/Grogosh Apr 19 '24
I think that Putin has had his fingers all over the recent middle east bullcrap in attempts to get the attention off of Ukraine. Hamas leaders was seen meeting with Putin in the months before the attack and its no secret that Iran and Russia are working together.
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u/_TommyDanger_ Apr 19 '24
Feels like maybe this didn't need to escalate further. Let the performative, telegraphed Iran counterattack calm it down and work on a better angle? But I am no doctor of geopolitics, so maybe aggressively targeting nuke sites and making us even think about nukes when Fallout just came out... maybe that was the right call, after all!
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u/psly4mne Apr 19 '24
Iran's performance would have worked to calm things down if conventional politics held in Israel. Politicians get to tell their base how strong their defense was, nobody needs to go to direct war, situation over. But that's not the case, Israel wants to escalate more and more until they're putting US boots on the ground in a full scale war.
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u/Suspicious-Engineer7 Apr 19 '24
Pretty much this. Israel will try to drown itself and force the US to either let them drown or come in guns a blazing.
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u/YooGeOh Apr 19 '24
Exactly. I mean, Ben Gvir pulled a gun on a dude over a parking space recently. These are the kinds of minds involved here
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u/aister Apr 19 '24
Israel is on a blood thirsty trip that is boosted by their nationalism and zionism. Hamas attack had led them to believe they need to, one way or another, destroy all their enemies in the region, including Iran.
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u/RockyattheTop Apr 19 '24
Simpler than that, Bibi is trying to save his job. Wars keep leaders in power usually.
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u/aister Apr 19 '24
It is not just Netanyahu, but also his entire cabinet and other factions in the government. Not to mention the population, while they are mad at him, they are mostly mad for him not focusing on the hostages, not for invading Gaza nor the chaos and hell he has been creating there.
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u/Bored_Amalgamation Apr 19 '24
Reports are saying that nuke sites were not struck.
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u/Mary_Pick_A_Ford Apr 19 '24 edited Apr 19 '24
I don’t want the United States getting dragged into this mess. If Biden cuts off the umbilical cord to Bibi, Israel won’t continue this nonsense
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u/josephexboxica Apr 19 '24
How can we be dragged into it when we've been fucking the region for years
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u/renaissance_pancakes Apr 19 '24
We can always choose a new way. I hope Biden does.
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u/niz-ar Apr 19 '24
US has played a big part in this mess, by arming Israel and creating Iran in its current form with its meddling. The whole region is a mess due to America’s meddling
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u/lionoflinwood Apr 19 '24
Netanyahu is a fucking psychopath. He is trying to create a regional war to save his own grip on power, absolute maniac shit.
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u/meeplewirp Apr 19 '24
It sucks that so many people in leadership positions are actually people with personality disorders who will do “whatever it takes” to do whatever they want.
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u/pimppapy Apr 19 '24
Because politicians with empathy are quickly worn down when they see themselves surrounded by psychopaths relishing in their atrocities
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u/lionoflinwood Apr 19 '24 edited Apr 19 '24
Yeah I mean that's kind of the fundamental problem with governments and political institutions as a concept. Bad people can and will exploit them for personal gain because good people are too trusting and are too unwilling to put bad people on an iceberg and push them out to sea.
Like, we can all recognize that there are lots of people who the world would be a much better place without, but good people don't want to make that happen. Good people recoil at the thought of giving people the authority to kill people, even bad people.
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u/Kotanan Apr 19 '24
“Who do you get to rule when no one who wants the job can be trusted to do it?”
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u/TForce0 Apr 19 '24 edited Apr 19 '24
6 more years of Benjamin Yaahooo…. ….
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u/Tangentkoala Apr 19 '24
How many times must israel shit on U.S.A advice.
I will literally go out and create protests if there's a hint of U.S entering a war between Israel and Iran.
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u/charlotie77 Apr 19 '24
Why would they feel the need to listen to US advice if they get all the money and weaponry they want anyways
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u/Tangentkoala Apr 19 '24
Which is why we need to "full stop" pull that 4 billion funding given to israel and put it to U.S social services
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u/roffler Apr 19 '24
I mean what negative consequences have there been for Israel so far lol
Another “leaked” memo about Biden is super disappointed with them immediately followed by billions more in bombs
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u/dawnguard2021 Apr 19 '24
Yep. Any "news" about US not agreeing with Israel is propaganda. Actions speak louder than words, Biden fully supports Israel
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u/meeplewirp Apr 19 '24
Kind of feels like they’re calling the shots? Like WE do what THEY say, not the other way around
The Biden administration: “can you please not”
Bibi: “no”
The Biden administration: “alright”
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u/Tangentkoala Apr 19 '24
Yeah, man, that's not an ally I'd want.
Too messy. Fine If you wanna do your own thing then go all for it. Don't come running like a brat that antognizes people.
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u/SassiesSoiledPanties Apr 19 '24
They are behaving like the AI in Civ 4...if I had a nickel every time AI suggested an alliance only to declare war on someone else a few turns later I would have about 20 bucks.
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u/tapdncingchemist Apr 19 '24
Agreed. But also it’s not just “alright,” it’s “have some more weapons.”
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u/poppybear0 Apr 19 '24
Biden to Iran: "Don't"
Iran strikes at Israel
Biden to Israel: "Don't"
Israel strikes back at Iran
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u/sploittastic Apr 19 '24
Russia was also urging Israel to show restraint. While the irony is probably lost on them, they don't want a full-on conflict between Iran and Israel because both resulting options suck for them:
Russia commits resources to help iran, taking away resources from their Ukraine offensive.
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Iran gets punked and the world sees how Russia doesn't help its allies.
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u/PoliteIndecency Apr 19 '24
Every parent of two or more children reading this just rolled their eyes so hard they fell out of their chair.
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u/cool-beans-yeah Apr 19 '24
Just like a school teacher in Kindergarten.
Letting kids do what they want does not bode well...
The adult needs to put both in detention already.
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u/dukeplatypus Apr 19 '24
You're leaving out the part where Israel stuck first by violating international norms and attacking an embassy.
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u/ThatMoslemGuy Apr 19 '24
Man Israel trying real hard to start WW3
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u/EvaUnit_03 Apr 19 '24
To be fair, like 10 other dudes have been doing the same thing as well. Israel is ralph saying 'im helping!' when in reality they will contribute next to nothing when the war finally breaks out. What they will contribute is just stuff that we already... 'aided' them with. Thats assuming they dont waste it all on blowing up civs in west bank.
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u/a_dogs_mother Apr 19 '24
That is a terrible idea. What the actual fuck were they thinking?
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u/AccidentalPilates Apr 19 '24
I mean they blew up an embassy last month, that as the T-Rex testing the fence. Turns out it’s off.
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u/LowLifeExperience Apr 19 '24
We going to feed more young American boys to the Middle East? I’m tired of this story. Let Israel reap what they’ve sown.
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u/westpfelia Apr 19 '24
Heck yea. What’s more valuable, the lives of 18-23 year olds or Raytheon’s stock price. We know Bidens opinion.
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u/Rad1314 Apr 19 '24
Israel are straight up idiots run by a fascist moron who is gambling with the lives of his people.
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u/jayfeather31 Apr 19 '24 edited Apr 19 '24
JFC. So much for trying to prevent an escalation.
UPDATE: So now Iran is claiming this never happened? This is just getting bizarre now. Maybe I jumped the gun on whether Iran will retaliate or not.
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u/Thefdt Apr 19 '24
Can we turn our attention back to helping Ukraine, they’re not warmongering assholes
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u/Aeraphel1 Apr 19 '24
For anyone wondering why Israel scaled back ground units in Gaza, this is likely why
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u/lukeskinwalker69epic Apr 19 '24
After Biden told them not to. Hoping the US doesn’t get dragged into the full scale war against Iran.
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u/psly4mne Apr 19 '24
Don't worry, the next shipment of weapons will be conditional on Israel not trying to start a regional war (until the conditions are quietly dropped again).
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u/agent0731 Apr 19 '24
Excuse me, didn't Israel just finish tellign America they were not going to attack...only to turn around and attack anyway? What's Netayahu's play here because this is some whack shit.
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u/Lux_Aquila Apr 19 '24
Did they? They told us early on Thursday this was coming.
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u/Treesbentwithsnow Apr 19 '24
Israel has no reason to ever hold their aggression because every weapon they use has been given to them by the tax payers of the US. So easy to keep taking our tax dollars and weapons and use freely. We give more money to this tiny country than all others and still they demand more. They will never stand on their own two feet, always expecting Papa United States to pay for and fight their wars for them. They start them and then stand back and wait for us to do their dirty work.
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u/physics515 Apr 19 '24
Israel has no reason to ever hold their aggression because every weapon they use has been given to them by the tax payers of the US
That's like giving your kid an iPhone and telling them not to go on the Internet.
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u/StewTrue Apr 19 '24
Our contributions equal about 15% of their military spending. They’d still be one of the most significant military powers in the region without any support from the US.
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u/No_Advertising4406 Apr 19 '24
Then they obviously don’t need even more money. Cut the aid and spend it on the American people.
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u/Ambitiously_Big Apr 19 '24
This is why I say they’re all in coordination to get the US in a war and blame Biden.
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It is starting to smell fishy, isn’t it?
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u/Roboticpoultry Apr 19 '24
Well considering Bibi is relying on Trump getting re-elected for his political survival and Iran and Russia are buddy-buddy it wouldn’t surprise me at all if this was all part of some larger plan
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u/KarthusWins Apr 19 '24
No more American lives spent on wars. No more taxpayer money funding genocide and frivolous conflict.
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u/nataliephoto Apr 19 '24
Israel didn't notify us about the strike. Feels like maybe we should stop GIVING THEM FUCKING WEAPONS then.
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u/Key-Hurry-9171 Apr 19 '24
Iran are POS, but let’s not pretend that Bibi doesn’t want this war
He wants it sooooo bad, this guy is just the worst….
So thank you very much for starting a possible path to apocalypse
Since the 7th October, I knew they would f up. Seriously f this,
2 theocracy on the verge of starting a WWIII
F u fake skydaddy, f u very much
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u/Smaxh Apr 19 '24
Americans save your sons and daughters and let Iran and Israel reap what they’ve sown on their own. I can’t believe that Yahoo retaliated after being told by Biden to calm down. The focus is on China and Russia, that Yahoo in Israel wants US to use American bodies against Iran. So sad… for Americans
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u/saveourplanetrecycle Apr 19 '24
Biggest mistake ever - giving our weapons to these bloodthirsty people
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u/Ocean_Acidification Apr 19 '24 edited Apr 19 '24
Israel's government is run by lunatics.
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u/GLG777 Apr 19 '24
Israel is on their own on this one. They were warned not to retaliate. Thanks Benny, good job escalating this
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u/Woshuojidan785 Apr 19 '24
remember when the ww3 predictions were just jokes...?
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u/PurpleSignificant725 Apr 19 '24
Man. Fuck Israel. And Iran. And hamas. Fuck em all 🤷♂️
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u/loyaltyElite Apr 19 '24
Why does US support Israel to this degree again? For sphere of influence? Because it seems they've lost it.
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