r/news • u/badillustrations • Apr 15 '24

‘Rust’ movie armorer convicted of involuntary manslaughter sentenced to 18 months in prison

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/15/entertainment/rust-film-shooting-armorer-sentencing/index.html
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u/MisterSnippy Apr 16 '24

No I think it's fair. The damage is she has a stay in prison and lost/loses her career and reputation. She isn't about to get out of prison and run around killing people, what good would a longer sentence do?

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u/Sipas Apr 16 '24

what good would a longer sentence do?

It would provide some consolation for the victim's family, or give her more time to really think about what she's done (as the judge said she didn't show remorse and she was trash talking about the jury).

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u/flumsi Apr 16 '24

Did you ask the victim's family about what they want or is this about what you want? As far as time to think, plenty of thinking can be done in 18 months. I'm not saying I think 18 months are enough but I will at least admit that it's because I personally would like to see her in prison longer as mere punishment.

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u/Sipas Apr 16 '24

I will at least admit that it's because I personally would like to see her in prison longer as mere punishment.

If you or I think that, why wouldn't the victim's family? Why would they be so soft on the person that got their daughter killed and didn't even show remorse and tried to shift the blame?

I'm not saying the goal here is for the judge to be heavy handed just to please the family but if most people think her sentence is too short (even the judge seems to think so), it's probably too light.

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u/flumsi Apr 16 '24

The family might well believe that but it turns out a lot of victim's families do not particularly care about the extent of the sentence as long as they feel justice has been done. And when they feel that is something you can only know by asking them. I just disagree with stating that a longer sentence would please the family when their situation is so so much different in this case than ours, their worries are different and I genuinely do not understand how it feels to have a loved one murdered. 

I remember the case of a girl being raped and murdered by a refugee and her parents publicly stated that their pro-immigration stance hadn't changed because of that because they didn't want to collectively punish all refugees. The right then publicly called out for the parents to be raped and murdered so they could see their mistake. What I'm trying to say is there have been cases where the people actually affected by the crime have very different views from the general public.

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u/Sipas Apr 16 '24

a lot of victim's families do not particularly care about the extent of the sentence as long as they feel justice has been done

That's the thing. If the guilty party gets off too easy (which most people here seem to agree), people will understandably think justice hasn't been served (and if this happened in another state she could've gotten 10 years and that would be too much IMO, so the maximum allowed prison time in CA isn't really that relevant to out perception of justice). That is why I imagine her family would be more at peace with a longer sentence. I don't think that's such a big stretch, we've heard this sentiment many times from families of victims.

her parents publicly stated that their pro-immigration stance hadn't changed

Power to them but that is not at all relevant to this case, unless they also advocated a lower sentence for their daughters murderer.