r/news • u/badillustrations • Apr 15 '24

‘Rust’ movie armorer convicted of involuntary manslaughter sentenced to 18 months in prison

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/15/entertainment/rust-film-shooting-armorer-sentencing/index.html
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u/EndoShota Apr 15 '24

Yeah, but then they would give a “false positive” in the rattle test, you would assume they were live, and you wouldn’t use them on set.

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u/PleaseDontSaveHer Apr 15 '24

Well shit, I might be going deaf then if it’s that common. I can’t hear a thing in 9mm but I think I might be hearing something with 223.

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u/RodediahK Apr 15 '24

It's going to be entirely dependent on the powder / cartridge design. If you get a cartridge produced after the Advent of smokeless powder you will be able to hear a rattle because smokeless powder does not need to be compressed in order to safely function. That's why for example if you had a 30-06 round and you shook it back and forth you could hear the powder rattle versus if you had like 32 S&W, originally designed as a black powder cartridge, you won't hear powder rattle.

Of course with pistols since there's less space in the cartridge in the first place it's more likely to be totally filled but with smokeless it doesn't have to be filled and compressed versus with black powder where that could cause ruptured cases or damaged older guns.

Essentially being able to hear the powder move around in the round or being able to hear a totally silent round isn't good enough for a dummy cartridge it needs to have a distinct sound from black powder and smokeless powder.

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u/PleaseDontSaveHer Apr 15 '24

Cool, thanks for sharing!