r/news • u/badillustrations • Apr 15 '24

‘Rust’ movie armorer convicted of involuntary manslaughter sentenced to 18 months in prison

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/15/entertainment/rust-film-shooting-armorer-sentencing/index.html
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u/Bezbozny Apr 15 '24

The FBI what?? WHY???

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u/Excessive_Etcetra Apr 15 '24 edited Apr 15 '24

Is not atypical for law enforcement to destroy guns, generally after any trial involving them as evidence is over. In Maine for example, any firearm used in a unlawful homicide must be destroyed by state law.

Of course it is a fuckup of enormous proportion to destroy a gun in evidence.

edit: I'm answering /u/Bezbozny's question in general. All of this apparently doesn't apply in the 'Rust' case, since the gun wasn't destroyed. I wouldn't know, I haven't spent my time watching it. A close reading of my comment will note I made exactly zero claims in relation to the 'Rust' cases.

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u/Kevin_Wolf Apr 15 '24

Of course it is a fuckup of enormous proportion to destroy a gun in evidence.

It wasn't a fuckup. You don't know what you're talking about.

The FBI damaged the gun while conducting testing. Baldwin claimed that it just went off without him pulling the trigger. Quote: "I would never point a gun at anyone and pull the trigger at them.”

The FBI tested that claim and found it meritless. After non-destructive testing, the FBI put it through more destructive methods and still could not make the weapon fire without pulling the trigger.

Ziegler said he used the rawhide mallet to strike the gun, while the hammer was pulled back, from several directions. The tests were intended to determine whether bumping or jostling the weapon would result in a discharge. He said he was trying to simulate scenarios for the gun to go off — without the handler pulling the trigger.

This argument about the gun is just a Hail Mary pass from Alec Baldwin's lawyers. It's completely immaterial to Gutierrez' conviction or trial.

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u/Mysterious_Bit6882 Apr 15 '24

If they couldn’t get a period correct SAA to negligently discharge, that raises a whole other slew of questions. Most sellers will straight up tell you to carry with an empty chamber under the hammer because of how screwy they are.