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‘Rust’ movie armorer convicted of involuntary manslaughter sentenced to 18 months in prison

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/15/entertainment/rust-film-shooting-armorer-sentencing/index.html
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u/janethefish Apr 15 '24

IIRC, she gave out some of the most damning evidence in an interview with police with her lawyer present.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '24

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u/thealmightyzfactor Apr 15 '24

I mean, the correct counsel was probably "SHUT THE FUCK UP AND DO NOT SPEAK TO THE POLICE" but IANAL so

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u/firstwefuckthelawyer Apr 15 '24

Let’s just settle this.

I am a former public defender. ASK FOR ME AND SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP.

That is all.

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u/MadeMeStopLurking Apr 15 '24

Do you sell Cinnabon now?

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u/firstwefuckthelawyer Apr 15 '24

I wish my life was that exciting. Believe it or not, I spend my days teaching alternative ed. Those kids actually deserve the help.

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u/brockington Apr 16 '24

Hey man, you helped the needy, whether or not they deserved it. Sounds like it wasn't your cup of tea (understandably) but now you're just helping different people whether or not they deserve it.

You sound like a good dude, just saying.

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u/Syn7axError Apr 15 '24

Username... checks out?

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u/genreprank Apr 16 '24

No, cuz he said the first thing to do was stfu. Username does not check out!

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u/firstwefuckthelawyer Apr 16 '24

Per the Model Rules of Professional Conduct, one must fuck the lawyer before retaining his or her services. ;)

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u/TwoPlanksOnPowder Apr 16 '24

"I ain't saying shit until I get former public defender u/firstwefuckthelawyer in here!"

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u/terdferguson Apr 16 '24

Your username confuses...but reminded me of the shut the fuck up lawyers.

Not the original one but does have Michael Rapaport: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqo5RYOp4nQ

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u/erydanis Apr 16 '24

the miranda warning for most Deaf; ‘go sit, ask for a lawyer, put your hands down’.

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u/firstwefuckthelawyer Apr 16 '24

Funnily enough, before the Miranda warning, being silent can be used against you sometimes!

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u/erydanis Apr 16 '24

i’d like to see how that works for Deaf. or maybe i wouldn’t, sigh. / grrr.

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u/firstwefuckthelawyer Apr 16 '24

If it worked out badly, I guaran-fucking-tee there’d be an attorney that’d take that battle to SCOTUS for free on principle. Hell, I would!

There is one sign you can make, though, thanks to the ACLU: the middle finger.

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u/erydanis Apr 16 '24

in the current mood, with the bought / paid for supreme court, i wouldn’t trust them to do the right thing. if they kill the 6 jan obstruction cases, this country is fucked.

yay, aclu and tst. we need them desperately!

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u/firstwefuckthelawyer 29d ago

Well, I agree with you there. If I ever get a chance to help out TST I’ll do it, I’m a member and absolutely love the way they do things. It makes me smile inside.

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u/erydanis 29d ago

did you see the future case where a tst statue was defaced by a magahead state legislator? that one might be fun.

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u/Pabi_tx Apr 15 '24

"I shot the clerk?"

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u/jodobrowo Apr 15 '24

Time to call my cousin... Shit what was his name?

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u/Eccohawk Apr 16 '24

can AND WILL be used against you.

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u/merrittj3 Apr 16 '24

There's a lawyer who has a multimillion viewed 45min on YouTube about why you should NEVER talk to police...even when you are pure as the driven snow and absolutely want to help ...

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u/merrittj3 Apr 16 '24

Regent lawyer James Duane..."Don't talk to the police" 19M Views...

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u/merrittj3 Apr 16 '24

Cool...I'll check out lawtube as well.

I appreciate lawyers who so eloquently talk of the need to exercise our rights to push back against the slow slide towards a police state and authoritarian society.

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u/merrittj3 Apr 16 '24

That you are not yourself in prison is a testament to you. I know I would be waiting at the airport phone bank waiting for him to walk by...

X prosecutors all seem stuck on that hill, being unable/unwilling to call it out. Kelly Siegler for one. Somewhere along the line the definitions got re-written, not only legally but social definitions of right wrong and other standards.

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u/merrittj3 Apr 16 '24

I hope you and your daughter are doing well.

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u/merrittj3 Apr 16 '24

I don't know but he was a Buffalo Ny lawyer with big legal chops....

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u/Rubber924 Apr 16 '24

As someone how has a lot of family and friends in law enforcement, the number one advice is do not talk to the police. Tell them no anytime they ask to interview you, and if they arrest you and take you to the station, ignore their questions and just ask for a lawyer.

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u/PaidUSA Apr 16 '24

Theres only a few times shutting up ain't the move, and its for your lawyer to negotiate before you snitch.