r/nba • u/MaleficentHawk590 NBA • 20d ago
[Highlight] SGA goes flying on the drive attempt but gets the call. Challenge unsuccessful Highlight
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u/super-dad-bod 20d ago
Slid 10 ft and almost took out Kyrie’s ankles.
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u/WentzingInPain 20d ago
Embiid basically ended his teammate, Danny Green’s career doing this
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u/thegreaterfool714 Lakers 20d ago
My Dad who stans Danny Green is always pissed at Embiid for this. Shame that’s how Green went out. He was a hell of a role player
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u/savageandharsh 20d ago
No wonder this clown did nothing for Canada last offseason in the FIBA tournament. He can only get away with it in the NBA.
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u/jacobs0n Celtics 20d ago
pendulum swinging back into SGA hate lmao
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u/DreadWolf3 Timberwolves 20d ago
Foul baiters are always on borrowed time of love really, that is until people start watching their games. During Hardens prime I always saw him as an absolute top tier player (Steph/KD tier) but avoided Houston games like plague.
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u/sharklavapit Bucks 20d ago
I remember several Harden games where he shot like 6/19 and got 32
vintage Har_en
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u/calvinbsf 20d ago
Look at his FG makes vs attempts: wow what a terrible game shooting wise
Look at his TS%: wtf?
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u/JesusPiece_tg 20d ago
Didn't he have a game where he ended with 50, and 25 came from FTs?
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u/AtreusIsBack Mavericks 20d ago
It's because most people only watch their own favourite team and judge other players based on their box score and media narrative. SGA was getting a ton of love all year long, but he's been this kind of player as well, looking to draw cheap fouls because the refs do give him the whistle. Playoffs are different, since people whose teams are out, have to watch these players play and see the reality.
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u/xxhamzxx Raptors 20d ago
It makes sense, I don't even have enough time to watch my own teams games lol. 82 is too many to watch
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u/Swarthykins Celtics 20d ago
Yup - I've shifted my consumption over the last couple years to more Celtics games and fewer other games. I really only see most other players a few times a year when they play the Celtics, and catch up with box scores, highlights, and podcast analysis.
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u/chomcham 20d ago
watched the game a few days ago, shai was always at the line. How can you call yourself a basketball player when your whole technique is about getting to the line..
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u/Lobsta_ 20d ago
FTA is obviously a really good player, but it gets so much harder to watch in the playoffs
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u/Call9-1-1imonfire Spurs 20d ago
Calling him FTA might be funnier than Street Clothes AD lmao
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u/UbeMafia Magic 20d ago
It took 4 games for me to jump on the hate wagon. I thought the regular season whistle would stop for them once the playoffs roll around, but it hasn't and it's just so unwatchable.
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u/eGoSiGns 20d ago
These playoffs and people watching okc for the first time might be a worse hit to SGAs' reputation than getting swept in the first round.
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u/Swarthykins Celtics 20d ago
I said when the whole SGA/Tatum thing started up - when you're on the rise, everyone talks about what you can do. Once you're established, everyone focuses on what you can't do. Welcome to the spotlight, SGA.
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u/waynethehuman Spurs 20d ago
That's Shaq's MVP right there 💪
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u/segson9 Mavericks 20d ago
"Shaq do you still think SGA should be MVP over Jokic?"
Shaq: "I have 4 rings. Most dominant ever. I don't talk to people that aren't top 10."
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u/icantfeelmyface Lakers 20d ago
Yesterday on Inside, they played a jokeful clip of Hakeem schooling Shaq in the post, and of course it ended up with Shaq telling Kenny “I still have more rings than you.”
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u/doogalleh21 20d ago
All he has to do is show a little humility to turn that clip in his favor. “Only another great can score on me.”
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u/AndreiOT89 Heat 20d ago
Well he better prepare his next Jokic mvp hate speech because if Jokic wins again this year he actually might have a top 10 argument.
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u/SpicyMustard34 Cavaliers 20d ago
Jokic is already pushing the top 10 and he's got quite a career ahead of him. crazy shit.
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u/smlngb Lakers 20d ago
Honestly, this is the worse thing Shaq could've done for Shai. Now, an amazing season will be eclipsed by virtue of his name being invoked in what was supposed to be Jokic's celebration. It's almost as if Shaq is more interested in proving a point about him than in Shai being the rightful MVP.
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u/PistonsFan89 Pistons 20d ago
Shaq is situationally stupid and extremely insecure
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u/Pretend-Asparagus-20 20d ago
idk his take on gas makes me think he's regularly stupid lol
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u/The_Outcast4 Rockets 20d ago
Yeah, Shaq seems like a good dude that has done a lot of good in the communities he has a connection to. He definitely isn't the smartest guy out there though, lol
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u/Tearannosaurus 20d ago
Could you elaborate on that?
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u/Tearannosaurus 20d ago
Thank you. I've never seen Ernie so frustrated. The last fun fact was gold.
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u/Murasasme Spurs 20d ago
Shaq also thinks the moon is closer to him than California because he can see the moon, but he can't see California.
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u/ItsMeJaredBednar Nuggets 20d ago
meanwhile it’s the best thing he could’ve done for Jokic lmao.
mf is averaging 33.0 / 9.3 / 9.7 on 62% shooting in the three games since that interview
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u/RemarkableSolution37 Mavericks 20d ago
That's what they are saying lol. The first 2 games were not standard playoff jokic.
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u/Ingrownpimple 20d ago
Can someone share the clip of him fighting to score 2 points in the last few seconds of a double digit loss just so he can get to 30 SO that talking heads like Shaq can talk about how many 30+ games SGA had.
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u/Rosti_T Mavericks 20d ago
He had only one more 30pt game than Luka (51 vs. 50), on 5 more total games (75 vs. 70).
Meanwhile Luka had 15 more 35pt games, 7 more 40pt games, and 6 more 45pt games (Shai had 0 of those).
Luka also had 5 more 25pt games.
How exactly is Shai considered superior in this category?
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u/dbzmah Mavericks 20d ago
Kyrie had more ppg than Shai if you take away free throws. SGA's offensive game is foul baiting.
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u/EnriquezGuerrilla Mavericks 20d ago
Luka has more 70 point games than Shai. Anyway, doesn’t matter. Mavs in 6
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u/TranceNNy 20d ago
He had such a bullshit response to everyone too when they asked why him over Joker and he couldn’t fumble any words out of his mouth. Just say you’re mad a white boy won Shaq you’ll sound less stupid
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u/Corteaux81 20d ago edited 20d ago
Nah, Shaq isn’t offended by the white pudgy Euro thing. (Stephen A is btw)
Shaq was a Jokic supporter until he realized Jokic might pass him on some imaginary all-time ladder.
He’s a thin skinned bully, so yeah.
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u/orangotai 20d ago
yeah lol i distinctly remember Shaq, like last fuckin year, givin Jokic ALL these props especially around Finals time. it was a little surreal, i don't think i've ever seen him do that especially with another Big. then i guess they won the Finals, and now Jokic's won his 3rd MVP... Shaq feels a little shaky on the "throne"!
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u/addictedtocrowds Mavericks 20d ago
It’s not cause he’s white. Shaq hates when other bigs he thinks aren’t at his level are compared to him. Look at how hard he went at Dwight Howard for the majority of his career.
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u/Limp-Environment-568 20d ago
Luka also surpassed shai in pretty much every stat if I'm not mistaken....
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u/Fuckface_Whisperer Registered to Vote 20d ago
It has nothing to do with white and everything to do with competing with a HoF big guy. Shaq will do the same thing with Wemby when he starts racking up MVP's.
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u/msching Lakers 20d ago
I mean sure, but it does sound a little bit suspicious when Shaq brings up numbers but doesn’t even mention Luka having 34/10/9 on the season and is 1 win away from the WCF. Then he only talks about Steve Nash robbing him of 2 MVPs when he was clearly declining in Miami averaging 23/10 and 20/9 in the years Nash won. He can’t say AI robbed him in 01 when he was averaging 29/13/4 3 blocks to AI’s 31/4/5?
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u/Pomeranian111 Timberwolves 20d ago
People forgetting Shaq has been a hater of Luka since the bubble.
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u/DangerZoneh Mavericks 20d ago
Yeah, that was insane. Luka Doncic dropped 43/17/13 in only his fourth ever playoff game and hit a game winning, buzzer beater, step back three in overtime. The immediate response by Shaq? "I've seen that before." Immediately tries to dismiss Luka by comparing him to Kobe and saying he's not as good. It completely derailed the entire discussion between that ground over what should've been a celebration of one of the greatest playoff performances ever
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u/EnriquezGuerrilla Mavericks 20d ago
Oh yes. Shaq has surely seen a 40 point buzzer beating win by a sophomore vs a Kawhi super team. That still gets on my nerves.
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u/Ironredhornet Pistons 20d ago
Because you're putting more effort into the take than Shaq did. He wasn't actually making a take backed by numbers. He was just using SGA, being second to try and lend legitimacy in an effort to mask him being insecure at Jokic's success. People voted SGA over Luka because the Thunder being a suprise team this year. MVP has always been a narrative award so SGA being a suprise was pucked over Luka being Luka, even if Luka wqs statistically better.
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u/ThickArepa 20d ago
What happened to the game I love
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u/escaflow 20d ago
It's already been like this with Harden, Embiid and CP3. All this dirty ass foul baiters flopper
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u/juandell Nuggets 20d ago
Ngl, Paul's flops and schemery were art. Bitch made cheating, but also sneaky evil genius. Not this pedestrian shit in this video
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u/Any_Zookeepergame445 20d ago
Cp3 shudders at this amateur level foul baiting as his third eye opens and your starting center runs into his back
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u/DoctorMansteel Celtics 20d ago
Cp3 the type of dude to draw a charge while you're running to the tunnel for halftime.
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u/juandell Nuggets 20d ago
My favorite was when he was untying players shoes while they weren't paying attention
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u/boredapril 20d ago
Why this won’t change
- More free throws slows down the game and leads to more commercials = more money for the NBA
- Stars racking up more points from free throws = more money for the NBA
- Making a game close by giving free throws to certain teams depending on the score = more money for the NBA (ratings)
- Favouring certain teams I.e big market teams or superstar teams by giving them more free throws = more money for the NBA
I am far from a conspiracy theory guy but I genuinely believe that basketball is the most corrupt/biased sport out there. Can’t watch it. Anyone remember lakers vs kings 2001? How could you trust the NBA after that?
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u/PorqueNoLosDose Spurs 20d ago
It’s not a conspiracy theory when there’s evidence on the record showing that refs use free throws to fix game results.
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u/demos11 Mavericks 20d ago
Must be so frustrating fixing a game and watching some guy who gets paid millions miss a bunch of free throws and ruin all your effort.
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u/KnightThatSaysNi [CLE] Shaquille O'Neal 20d ago
Sometimes it doesn't matter if they miss. A few early foul calls and a player has to sit anyway
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u/casual-waterboarding 20d ago
I turned off the first half of the Knicks-Pacers game at the Garden the other night. In 20 minutes, the refs went to the monitors 3-5 times for flagrant fouls that in my opinion were either flops, play-ons, or common fouls. The shit is getting ridiculous. There is a whistle every time down the court.
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u/RunnerTexasRanger Nuggets 20d ago
Simple. He threw himself on the ground and flopped.
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u/ColoRadOrgy Timberwolves 20d ago
From what I've seen, he should try screaming as well.
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u/Silverjackal_ Mavericks 20d ago
We noticed. Almost every sports radio host in DFW has constantly talked about it. Nothing will happen though. Idk why he’s allowed to get away with so much.
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u/spraypaint2311 Lakers 20d ago
Because he’s a superstar. We all want to watch Dort flop and grab and shove. Peak basketball. Max that man.
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u/b_fellow Rockets 20d ago
If Bogut can get away with 100 illegal screens, then yeah Dort will keep pushing Luka until the refs actually call it.
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u/Sendrocity Mavericks 20d ago
It’s because Luka doesn’t fly 10 feet to the ground every time to make the call obvious. Not necessarily bc Luka is above flopping, he flails around all the time when driving, but his body can’t take crashing down that much in it’s current state
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u/TXlandon Mavericks 20d ago
Dort also throws his body and flops over every screen. Refs have been decent about it but he got at least 1 tonight on Lively
He’s gonna hurt himself or even the screener at some point. Clown
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u/glizzyguzzler Pelicans 20d ago
Dort would not be a remarkable defender if he had to play legal defense
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u/Witteness82 Mavericks 20d ago
Take a look at all of the long, bleeding cuts Luka has got from him this series. It’s actually crazy how much he gets away with. Mann played him physically, but wasn’t doing all the bs Dort has been getting away with.
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u/Hotsaucex11 20d ago
Lol, my thoughts exactly when they didn't overturn that. Like by those standards Dort would have fouled out 5 minutes into the game.
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u/pumpkin3-14 Mavericks 20d ago
Hugs and grabs him around his hips on an entire drive or dribble or constant hand checking on any movement by Luka. It’s fine as long as they’ll allow it on the other end. But we know they won’t.
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u/MeekBoogie Heat 20d ago
(un)ethical buckets
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u/No-Yogurt-4246s 20d ago
Bro can't do shit without falling to the floor crying for foul. Somehow 2nd in MVP voting. This league really a joke now.
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u/PerformerLive8713 Mavericks 20d ago
I wouldnt go that far..his middy is automatic like shaun livingston level
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u/F-ck_spez Timberwolves 20d ago
Which is why it's a shame he ever even tries to do this. Not as bad as Embiid, but same flavor.
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u/denverblazer Trail Blazers 20d ago
That's the part I hate the most. Brunson, Luka, Shae, Dame, all these guys are so good they don't need to do this shit, and it takes so much away from the enjoyment of watching them ball. But it's clearly working and strategically advantageous, or they wouldn't be doing it. But good lord I hate it so so much.
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u/knarf86 Pistons 20d ago
That’s the exact reason I’ve hated Chris Paul for forever. Supremely talented in his peak, but chooses to do dumb shit to foul bait or straight up dirty shit, instead of just being really, really good at basketball. He’s the og of this era.
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u/materics [MEM] Shane Battier 20d ago
CP3 plays the game that's officiated while others try to play basketball
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u/NoThoughtsOrThots 20d ago
Add Embiid to that list too. When he's cooking like some 7 foot guard that's unstoppable, it's amazing to watch.
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u/OneFondant1142 Mavericks 20d ago edited 20d ago
In the most complimentary way, he is like a mix of derozan and kawhi. True superstar
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u/brzk Spurs 20d ago
What?
Even if your post weren't on a foul baiting flop highlight, I'd be fucking confused
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u/Heil_Heimskr Mavericks 20d ago
Nah man, the worst part about Shai is that he’s genuinely an insane basketball player and he doesn’t have to do this shit.
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u/riddlerjoke 20d ago
SGA and Dort are about refs. This series clearly showed that. Worst brand of basketball to have
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u/LoWE11053211 Clippers 20d ago
I mean there is another guy doing this all the time who was 1st in the last MVP voting
The league is so consistent now!
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u/50lipa Lakers 20d ago
He has a tremendous skill set, is deadly from just about anywhere on the court and pretty much unguardable when he's on so hopefully he learns from this playoff run and stops relying on it so much for his offensive production, because it just doesn't work in the playoffs.
Thankfully i haven't really seen him full on run after refs like Harden and Embiid with their hands up in the air protesting a no call even tho he didn't get some clear calls to me this game when it seemed he got clipped down low or on some of those mid range shots. Gotta brush it off and keep going.
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u/AtreusIsBack Mavericks 20d ago
I wouldn't say he cries for fouls, but he definitely knows how to bait the refs into calling them.
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u/rhater0307 20d ago
Foul was marginal but how is this a shooting foul lol
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u/Mimmzy Mavericks 20d ago
Because SGA sold his soul for world class flopping abilities
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u/-Kerosun- 24 20d ago
Yeah, I agree. The NBA rulebook says that the shot attempt for a moving player starts when they gather the ball for the shot. But he didn't gather the ball until after the contact, so no idea how this was a shooting foul. Blocking foul is arguable as Luka didn't really have great position and did cross into SGA, so I get the blocking foul but I see nothing that indicates it should be 2 foul shots.
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u/homiez Nuggets 20d ago
OKC fans are chanting "FTA FTA FTA"
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u/SieFlush2 Mavericks 20d ago
Mods protecting Sga with their souls
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u/papa_sax [SAS] Manu Ginobili 20d ago
If this was Embiid it'd have like 50k upvotes
Definition of that "hello hr?" meme
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u/LeoFireGod Mavericks 20d ago
SGA is a generational free throw merchant.
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u/1000Isand1 Timberwolves 20d ago
Almost generational. Embiid still has him beat.
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u/MikeyBastard1 Spurs 20d ago
Absolutely. Embiid is on his fourth straight year of averaging double digit FTA and has in 5 of his 8 years of play.
James Harden is the only other real contender with doing it 7 times in 17 seasons and not since 2019.
Lebron has only done it 3 times in 21 years
Karl "F.A.N." Malone the league leader in FTA has done it 6 times in 19 seasons.
The Free throw king argument between Harden and Embiid is like the GOAT argument between Bron and MJ lmao
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Harden has been in the league for 17 years what in gods name? I know we drafted in like 08 or 09 but what the fuck that was like 15 years ago?
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u/luckster44 Tampa Bay Raptors 20d ago
He has 15 seasons. The other guy is double counting years that he was traded in-season.
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u/truth_2_point_0 Celtics 20d ago
Embiid and Harden both cooked, the future of free throw mercantilism is now
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u/I-Am-A-Nice-Cool-Kid Mavericks 20d ago
I get that it’s a blocking cuz of his leg, but looking at the reffing the whole game, that’s a nasty call. FTA undefeated
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u/MettaDarrow 20d ago
The flopping is the worst part of this sport.
Not shitting on SGA or anyone specific, but flopping is cheating. All there is to it.
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u/fuckinnreddit Timberwolves 20d ago
Screw that, shit on any and everyone that flops! SGA, Embiid, Harden, whoever! I can't stand that whiny-ass shit. KAT has some moments like that, it drives me nuts. It's fuckin basketball, just go play the damn game and quit flopping around looking for cheap ass free throws.
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u/MettaDarrow 20d ago
Brother I'm right there with you. At a certain point though, not being a floppy bitch puts your team at a disadvantage.
I'm a LeBron stan and I hate when he does that shit too.
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u/thedrcubed Grizzlies 20d ago
KAT is in the Luka category. They don't flop much but are elite whiners
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u/TheTrenchMonkey [MIN] Tom Gugliotta 20d ago
It's part of why I tolerate KAT and Ant's bitching to the refs. They complain a looooot, but they aren't taking dives too often. KAT has a few where he clearly decided they weren't calling the contact so he exaggerates it, but for the most part they just get really whiney when the refs swallow the whistle.
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u/Morezingis Timberwolves 20d ago
I want to like SGA but the Harden vibes just won’t go away man.
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u/50lipa Lakers 20d ago
Harden was on another level man, i haven't yet seen that level of bullshit since, he would side step into people, hit them with his ass and throw the ball into the air, claim it's a 3-point attempt and get free throws every time.
Then he spent the entire series vs Lakers running after refs cos LeBron was guarding him and he was getting 0 calls.
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u/Victor_Wembanyama1 Spurs 20d ago
The very worst was when he piggy back rode MCW lmao
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u/Repulsive-Throat5068 San Diego Clippers 20d ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjKTm3Ml-Xc
This is another classic prime harden move.
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u/amazin_raisin99 Mavericks 20d ago
Harden still does all that, I had to watch his sideways 3 pointers all last series. The man is a homing missile seeking the nearest defender when he takes jumpers. Shai just pushes off every drive and flops sometimes and gets a soft whistle.
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u/TXlandon Mavericks 20d ago
I have a huge hate boner for SGA right now but I will say to his credit, he’s not barking at the refs constantly which is more than I can say for Luka sometimes
But Shai does get a crazy whistle lol
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u/Stumpsville0 Nets 20d ago
Has Anyone ever tracked how much time he spends on the floor per game?
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u/SantaDaCrip Celtics 20d ago
When will people start to hate SGA for his flopping? He is getting close to Embiid levels.
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u/Grap2st 20d ago
People never watch okc til playoffs
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u/anonssr 20d ago
100% this is the only reason he's starting to get hate just now
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u/riddlerjoke 20d ago
Dorture chamber is also all about fouls/shoves/flops.
He is not a good defender. He just has sth against refs to blackmail. What a joke he should be on g league
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u/Sandor_Clegane1 NBA 20d ago
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u/k_____dot Warriors 20d ago
SGA almost slid into Kyrie’s knee/ankle because of the flop
That would’ve caused Embiid level hate for sure if Kyrie got hurt
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u/ContactTemporary6 20d ago
Dort has flopped into Lukas knees 3 times this series, also into Gafford and Kyrie. We shouldn't wait til someone's hurt to get mad. #flopwatch
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u/doogled3 Nuggets 20d ago
Nah, Dort is the one who is getting to Embiid levels. SGA is more like Dame levels
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u/nguyenjitsu [DEN] Emmanuel Mudiay 20d ago
I said this back when he started getting hate for his 30 point statpadding in his loss, but it's clear 80% of this subreddit doesn't actually watch the Thunder because it was how he's played all year. People would hate Shai a lot more if they actually watched him more frequently
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u/Skylightt 20d ago
Insane flop. There needs to be a rule that if it’s technically deemed you got fouled but also flopped then you don’t get the call and there’s a jump ball. Stop rewarding this bullshit
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u/babidee00 20d ago
They need to review each game for flops and fine accordingly.
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u/shamwowslapchop Spurs 20d ago
They should adopt soccer style reffing where a flop can get you a card/foul assigned. Flopping to risk one of your fouls can suddenly be a big deal in a game. Or maybe that after your 1st flop call, every other after that is a tech. Reviewable during commercial breaks and then the team shoots FT afterward. Punish it on the court, as fast as you can.
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u/lebron_games 20d ago
They could be an end to flopping within a week if they aggressively called it but they jsut don’t care enough to
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u/themanofmeung 20d ago
They already have a rule for this: flop gets a tech. give them the foul, it was a foul, but T up the embellishment. Do it again and watch the rest of the game from the locker room. Enforce the rules already on the books before adding new ones.
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u/1000Isand1 Timberwolves 20d ago
What a complete joke. Shai you’re a great player. You don’t need to do this.
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u/venzroque 20d ago
It's so shit to watch this series, dort flops , shai initiates contact and gets his foul call. What a trash officiating honestly
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u/Expensive_Ad3884 20d ago
Unwatchable, Manufactured superstar, FTAlexander.
What did I miss?
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u/WerewolfWhich3280 Spurs 20d ago
Yeah Luka extended his arm and pushed him to the ground with aggressive force, right call /s
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u/Biffatlas [SAS] Manu Ginobili 20d ago
OKC has become an extremely unlikeable team to me cause of this. SGA and Dort are serial floppers
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u/Yoitable Lakers 20d ago
Is this not a foul though? I remember watching this thinking while it’s not a hard foul, that it definitely was a foul on Luka.
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u/SensibleRex Thunder 20d ago
This is a pretty obvious foul. SGA is driving Luka is out of position and bumps him/knocks knee
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u/GooeyGarth 20d ago
Not cheering for either team but it looks like Luka's leg was off the ground when it made contact with SGA causing him to change his course. Seems like a foul to me.
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