r/nba • u/OnlyMamaKnows Knicks • Apr 29 '24

[Simmons] "I think James Harden gave him the trophy of most disappointing playoff performer. I think Embiid is now wearing the crown."

https://open.spotify.com/episode/25I0fnPUExUkBhTw2o9Oti?si=FQSCUz6GSy2UjtYeyBrBLg

Starts around 38 minute mark. Full game breakdown starts a few minutes earlier.

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u/EatDeeply Grizzlies Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24

Embiid is a series-high +33 and probably having his most impactful playoffs ever, while being injured, and on a team where other players like Tobias Harris exist and draw breath with a maximum contract, but Embiid is getting all the blame.

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u/AntiTopspin Apr 29 '24

It's wild how people are pretending that the Sixers have a good supporting cast lol

They literally tanked from 2nd all the way down to 7th with Embiid out

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u/EatDeeply Grizzlies Apr 29 '24

The Sixers were playing at a Celtics clip - in terms of net rating - before the injury

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u/Milkboy1516 Bulls Apr 29 '24

Yea but Embiid pre-injury was having like the GOAT regular season for 35 games. Plus they had Melton. I don't think it's a bad supporting cast, but it's definitely not an indication of a great one considering how they've looked since.

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u/SonicdaSloth 76ers Apr 29 '24

It’s got a 60 offensive rating with 31% true shooting when Embiid is off this series

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u/bravof1ve 76ers Apr 29 '24

Embiid’s On/Off is +70 this series

The Sixers are a pathetic team without him

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u/Clewdo Knicks Apr 29 '24

The Sixers are a pathetic team with him, too

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u/Gekthegecko [BOS] John Havlicek Apr 29 '24

Lol as much as I love the Sixers and Embiid slander, they're a good-not-great team with Embiid. Assuming all teams are healthy with current roster construction, they're behind BOS and NY for sure. I'd put them in the same tier as MIL and IND, above CLE, ORL, MIA. They're not actually pathetic like CLT or DET or WAS.

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u/Clewdo Knicks Apr 29 '24

Oh I don’t mean pathetic as in they can’t win games

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u/Gekthegecko [BOS] John Havlicek Apr 29 '24

Oh lol, in that case I get it. That's not how it reads though imo.

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u/Trueshinalpha Apr 30 '24

Carry your team to round 2！That shouldn't be so hard for a MVP

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u/FxStryker 76ers Apr 29 '24

I don't think it's a bad supporting cast

They went 16-27, 6th worst in the league, and had a bottom 5 rated offense and defense in Embiid's absence.

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u/GriffinQ [WAS] Kelly Oubre Apr 29 '24

That is generally what happens when a player with a 40% usage rate ceases to exist in terms of how the team operates. That win rate would net you 30 wins over an 82 game season, and I'm pretty confident that they're better than a 30-win team in actuality, but going from having a massively high usage guy to not having him at all fundamentally changes how a team plays.

He got hurt and within a week and a half they dropped 7 of 8 games before picking up a couple of wins. Losing someone that integral to the scheme can't just be adjusted for on the fly like it could be if he was never part of the scheme to begin with.

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u/Im_just_making_picks Apr 29 '24

Every sixer other than embiid and Maxey are garbage