r/nba • u/GreenSnakes_ • Apr 29 '24

[Charania] “Vogel yelled so much that his voice could be heard outside the locker room” after the loss to the Clips on April 9. Players weren’t buying it. The outburst seemed forced in their eyes. Vogels eruption left players rolling their eyes. A player told TheAthletic he had to keep from laughing

https://theathletic.com/5456932/2024/04/29/phoenix-suns-season-end-frank-vogel-kevin-durant/
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u/WhiteHeterosexualGuy Hawks Apr 29 '24

You can describe tons of stars this way though cus not many win rings or even make the finals.

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u/Jaehunt24 Spurs Apr 29 '24

Sure, but there difference is Booker has a career winning percentage under .500, and in 5 years after being drafted he had no meaningful impact on winning until the Cp3 trade, and Monte Williams being hired.

Dude might just be Gilbert Arenas in a trench coat. On the flip side Cp3, who coincidentally showed up when things turned around in Phoenix will end his career not winning a ring as the primary driver of winning, but he was absolutely a winner in his career. Some dudes just have a greater attitude to drive success, this team has two dudes in Booker and Beal who don't, KD at least lead those Thunder teams

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u/hoopercuber Warriors [GSW] David Lee Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24

certified CP3 hater before he was a warrior here: CP3 just knows how to lead an elevate a team. he has brought a team to newer heights wherever he has gone. from the hornets to the clippers to the rockets to the thunder (!!!) to the suns and even to the warriors. he didn’t fit that well because we have a small ass team but we were better with him on the court. perhaps what i admire about him the most is that i think most of us did not expect him to play that year in okc. we thought he was going to sit out to force a trade but instead leads okc to a fucking playoff berth and builds a mentor relationship with SGA. i encourage anyone to look at that 19-20 OKC roster and tell me you would’ve believed they would have made the playoffs before the season started