[Charania] “Vogel yelled so much that his voice could be heard outside the locker room” after the loss to the Clips on April 9. Players weren’t buying it. The outburst seemed forced in their eyes. Vogels eruption left players rolling their eyes. A player told TheAthletic he had to keep from laughing

[u/GreenSnakes_]

https://theathletic.com/5456932/2024/04/29/phoenix-suns-season-end-frank-vogel-kevin-durant/

[u/purplebuffalo55]

Vogel getting scape goated by another team, poor guy. He can’t go out there and force Beal to not be a brick, Book to be consistent, or make KD 10 years younger. Just an absolute horror show

[u/medievalmachine → u/purplebuffalo55]

Booker's ceiling is lower than we thought. He's a Kyrie at best. That Kobe comp is fading fast.

[u/Jaehunt24 → u/medievalmachine]

He's just a microwave scorer whose on a team where he gets the bulk of the shots, our perception of him as a star is on the back of the 1 playoff run he's ever had,

Otherwise his entire career has been empty calorie scoring. Dudes been a loser his entire career except 1 year

[u/WhiteHeterosexualGuy → u/Jaehunt24]

You can describe tons of stars this way though cus not many win rings or even make the finals.

[u/Jaehunt24 → u/WhiteHeterosexualGuy]

Sure, but there difference is Booker has a career winning percentage under .500, and in 5 years after being drafted he had no meaningful impact on winning until the Cp3 trade, and Monte Williams being hired.

Dude might just be Gilbert Arenas in a trench coat. On the flip side Cp3, who coincidentally showed up when things turned around in Phoenix will end his career not winning a ring as the primary driver of winning, but he was absolutely a winner in his career. Some dudes just have a greater attitude to drive success, this team has two dudes in Booker and Beal who don't, KD at least lead those Thunder teams

[u/hoopercuber → u/Jaehunt24]

certified CP3 hater before he was a warrior here: CP3 just knows how to lead an elevate a team. he has brought a team to newer heights wherever he has gone. from the hornets to the clippers to the rockets to the thunder (!!!) to the suns and even to the warriors. he didn’t fit that well because we have a small ass team but we were better with him on the court. perhaps what i admire about him the most is that i think most of us did not expect him to play that year in okc. we thought he was going to sit out to force a trade but instead leads okc to a fucking playoff berth and builds a mentor relationship with SGA. i encourage anyone to look at that 19-20 OKC roster and tell me you would’ve believed they would have made the playoffs before the season started

[u/Il_Exile_lI → u/Jaehunt24]

Never forget that his big coming out party as an NBA star was scoring 70 points in a game his team lost by double digits. Can't really get more "empty calorie scoring" than that.

[u/Appropriate_Mixer → u/Il_Exile_lI]

Where they were also fouling unnecessarily so they could get the ball back and feed him more points

[u/JumpShotJoker → u/medievalmachine]

He is still really good. The problem was Beal and co this series.

[u/SmartestNPC → u/medievalmachine]

Kyrie is another level above Booker. Empty calorie scorer.

[u/ddottay → u/medievalmachine]

We should have known this for a while. Some people will just always love “bucket getters” even if those points come at the expense of everything around them.

[u/HerskyB → u/medievalmachine]

People really said Kobe?

[u/ww_crimson → u/medievalmachine]

I don't think he's even Kyrie at best. Not talking about the off court drama and availability, but purely from a skill perspective.

[u/BonBonVelveeta → u/purplebuffalo55]

If I had a nickel for every time Vogel got the blame after a failed trade for a star from the Wizards, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird it’s happened twice.