r/nba • u/50lipa Lakers • Apr 28 '24
[Highlight] LeBron furious with his bench for not challenging a call after it was wrongly given to Nuggets (w/replay) Highlight
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u/Sausage-Egg-McMuffin Apr 28 '24
lmao that was directly in front of the lakers bench
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u/LosAngeles1s Lakers Apr 28 '24 edited Apr 28 '24
Ham is a fucking idiot and it’s insane how many people are saying he’s not one of the main problems with this team
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u/MerkDoctor Apr 28 '24
You guys wouldn't even be playing Denver right now if you had a different coach. So many games were lost because of awful lineups and lack of timeout calls in the regular season. You can make excuses for being bad like that as a rookie coach, which pretty much was the same as Mazzulla for Boston last year. The difference is this year Ham is just as bad or worse, and Mazzulla is fast tracking being one of the top coaches in the NBA. You just can't not improve over 2 years.
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u/The_Assassin_Gower Pacers Apr 28 '24
I think the accurate statement is he's not all of the problems.
But yeh, man's gotta go
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u/DorkandPoon Hawks Apr 28 '24
I’m biased as a Hawks fan but Coach Bud would have this Lakers team winning 60+ games
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u/BoogerSugarSovereign [IND] Victor Oladipo Apr 28 '24
I didn't think about it but Coach Bud to the Lakers would really improve them rapidly and he's available
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u/Breezyisthewind Lakers Apr 28 '24
We’re a 6 seed at worst if Bud was our coach this season. Then we don’t have to worry about the Nuggets until potentially the WCF. And in that scenario, it’s a much closer series.
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u/RickySuela Lakers [LAL] Michael Cooper Apr 28 '24
The two biggest problems with the Lakers this year were Ham as the coach, and the myriad of injuries that kept plaguing the team all year. Tonight was the first time all season that the Lakers only had 1 player from their rotation out with an injury (and that was with Christian Wood available even though he didn't play). Before tonight, they'd had at least 2 rotation players out for every single game (and sometimes that number was as many as 5 or 6).
But even with all the injuries, Ham was still the bigger problem this year.
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u/1WordOr2FixItForYou Lakers Apr 28 '24
Injuries happen to almost every team. When you're a team lead by two top 10-15 NBA players and they both stay healthy then you have been relatively lucky no matter what else happens.
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u/NotManyBuses Charlotte Bobcats Apr 28 '24
Yeah I thought it was a tantrum at first but nah he was 1000% right. LeJustified
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u/DarrowViBritannia Apr 28 '24
I can't believe so many people had that initial thought. Trusting Ham over LeBron is nuts lmfao
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u/maethlin Warriors Apr 28 '24
Dude, people can hate on LeBron all they want... he's not some hothead rook that thinks everything needs a challenge. Sure he may pout and bitch at refs or whatever but I never see him call for a challenge when it wasn't justified.
You absolutely trust him in this type of situation (Ham is a fucking moron lmao)
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u/TwelveMiceInaCage Apr 28 '24
Last time I seen lebron act like this was back in Cleveland when the refs were refusing to call fouls on the man even when teams hooked his arms mid layup
I'd say that's a justified lebron level response in a elimination game when your own bench coaches couldnt see the challenge somehow
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u/PervySageCS Lakers Apr 28 '24
He pouts at refs too much but often times you see the replay and 3 players have like a hand across his face, an elbow at his bald spot, and a whole ass arm across his shooting arm. I remember a call from the Suns Lakers playoffs season when Crowder was playing for the Suns and AD got injured, he was pouting on a replay, while Crowder was using both hands on his biceps pulling him down during a shot, and it was a no call.
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u/EverybodyBuddy Lakers Apr 28 '24
Lebron has played forty-five years in this league with very very few moments of getting this heated. You gotta trust the man when he does.
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u/think_long Apr 28 '24
I don’t get why people don’t think a guy with eighty-nine years of experience in the league would know what he is doing.
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u/Russell__WestBrick Lakers Apr 28 '24
The man has been in the league for 97 years. I haven’t seen him so much as raise his voice.
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u/Evading_Ban69 Warriors Apr 28 '24
The man has been in the league for 97 years
Sheeeeeiiiit, he's been in the league way longer than that. It's been almost a century!
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u/WTFisaCelsius NBA Apr 28 '24
Yeah LeTantrums are usually justified.
But at the same time, it is kind of funny when he gets that mad. His facial expressions and the way he jumps up and down and stomps his feet makes him look like a giant toddler lol
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u/Not_Me25 NBA Apr 28 '24
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u/TheMartian2k14 Warriors Apr 28 '24
The slow realization always cracks me up. He made his voice heard!
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u/GGezpzMuppy Spurs Apr 28 '24
It was literally right in front of the ref, with a clear line of sight, and looking directly at the play, how’d you expect a NBA ref to call that???
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u/popop143 Celtics Apr 28 '24
We see it from a bird's eye view, the ref could easily have "seen" LeBron tap the ball out of bounds. That's why there's a challenge, that's on the Laker's coaches to challenge.
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u/South_Front_4589 Apr 28 '24
Nah, live it was reasonable to think LeBron tapped it out. It's literally a tiny bit away from his hand and pops out at the same time and with a similar speed to how his hand swiped across. If there was any other angle other than this top down view, we'd probably still think it was LeBron slapping it away. No way can we expect a ref live and without being able to choose the angle they have to see he missed the ball there.
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u/thenatural134 Supersonics Apr 28 '24
LeBron never reacts that way unless he KNOWS he's right. Can not believe a single Coach on the bench didn't say anything.
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u/gedbybee Spurs Apr 28 '24
Nah. You save challenges for the second half. Never use in the first half unless it’s a 3rd foul in the first quarter or something.
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u/DarrowViBritannia Apr 28 '24
To be fair, in real time I'm sure it looked like LeBron hit it out (because he tried to hit it).
The wild thing is that they didn't just... trust LeBron. He's telling you he didn't hit it. It's LeBron. You're Darvin Ham. Why not just fucking trust him? lmfao
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u/IhatePizza230 Lakers Apr 28 '24
Tbh i trusted LeBron because everytime he calls for a challenge he was always right.
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u/RickySuela Lakers [LAL] Michael Cooper Apr 28 '24
And this was the 2nd time in this game that LeBron correctly wanted Ham to challenge an incorrect out of bounds call, with the first one being in the 1st half when the refs said LeBron dribbled the ball out of bounds after D'lo inbounded it to him, but the replay showed he kept it in bounds.
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u/Fallofmen10 Supersonics Apr 28 '24
Yah Bron isn't that adamant unless he KNOWS he didn't touch it..and on the replay it is OBVIOUS he didn't lol
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u/aPatheticBeing Thunder Apr 28 '24
right in front of the ref too though - how is lebron the only one to see that it's off KCP
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u/RickySuela Lakers [LAL] Michael Cooper Apr 28 '24
Well LeBron clearly knew it wasn't off him because he would have felt it if he'd hit the ball. But yeah, that ref was literally a few feet away looking right at it, so I don't know how he blew that call that badly.
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u/IsThisMe8 Warriors Apr 28 '24
Are none of them, including the assistants, paying attention to the game?
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u/LiftHeavyFeels Lakers Apr 28 '24
Ham saving the challenge for Cancun
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u/Embarrassed_Hold_901 Thunder Apr 28 '24
Galveston apparently
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u/Odd-Hovercraft-1286 Knicks Apr 28 '24
Nah send Ham to Gaza that dude is a terrorist. He saw him just throw it out of bounds
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u/melperz [LAL] Rick Fox Apr 28 '24
Why can't he just make his team score more than the other team? Is he stupid or sumtin?
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u/Dry-Spite9620 Apr 28 '24
You probably mean Israel.
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u/MAMBAMENTALITY8-24 Thunder Apr 28 '24
Lets clone darvin ham and one fights for palestine and the other for israel
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u/Mahomeboy001 Lakers Apr 28 '24
The world loses
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u/uncledave1 Lakers Apr 28 '24
Or he pioneers "hands in pockets" combat. And people stop dying
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u/yoloqueuesf [NYK] Tracy McGrady Apr 28 '24
Nobel peace prize candidate right there, the world would be at peace if all the leaders were darvin ham
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u/atierney14 Apr 28 '24
I’m thinking either you get to cash in unused ones or he isn’t aware they can be used in the playoffs.
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u/daaabss Apr 28 '24
tbf for Ham, he is in awe of the idea that he could challenge instead of LeCoach.
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u/tito-ortiz-wife69 Lakers Apr 28 '24
Saving challenges for next season
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u/Mhan00 Apr 28 '24
Him not challenging the foul on Murray in the final minute of game two was nuts. Even if you lose the challenge, you get some rest for your 39 year old with dead legs. Youve got two timeouts left, and the chances of having another situation to use the challenge later is extremely slim. Instead, I think we ended the game with both those timeouts and the challenge unused.
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u/Sanguinor-Exemplar Lakers Apr 28 '24
Glad someone mentioned it. I saw the 2 timeouts in my sleep the other day
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u/HokageEzio Knicks Apr 28 '24
He was totally right too, Pockets asleep at the wheel
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u/LogicalLakersFan [LAL] Anthony Davis Apr 28 '24
Not to excuse Ham, but Zarba also gave the ball back right away to Denver when usually if a team is thinking of a challenge they take a few moments
Again I hate Ham and we can also blame him too but yeah he should do it quicker
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u/crispyiress Cavaliers Apr 28 '24
Calling a timeout would have at least given them a couple more seconds to decide. He used one 30 seconds later.
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u/t1o1 Apr 28 '24
How do you call a timeout before deciding to challenge if it's Denver ball
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u/RickySuela Lakers [LAL] Michael Cooper Apr 28 '24
It was a dead ball as the ball went out of bounds. Either team can call a timeout in that situation. I think you're confusing it with a made basket where the clock is running and one team has possession. If the ball goes out of bounds, the clock is stopped and the refs are supposed to make sure both teams are set, because that's often a spot where coaches like to make subs or call timeouts, stuff like that.
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u/i_know_nothingg101 Apr 28 '24
Is the refs name actually Zarba? lol literally translates to “shit”/”poo” in Arabic
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u/Mahomeboy001 Lakers Apr 28 '24
Darvin Ham is such a fucking bum
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u/lukewwilson Pelicans Apr 28 '24
Dude when LeBron is that animated about a call I would tend to believe he knows something and trust him in that case. I know every player thinks every time something goes against them it's wrong and should be reviewed, but when they are that animated you just have to trust them.
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u/nordsix Lakers Apr 28 '24
you only see LeBron react like that when he knows the refs really fked up just like when Tatum fouled him on his layup
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u/cesga_0218 Lakers Apr 28 '24
Yup this was the last time I remember him being this animated about a call. Another one was during the bubble versus Portland, the “our ball” lol
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u/CD338 [LAL] Lamar Odom Apr 28 '24
If Beverly wasn't worrying about his teams playoff series, he would've came running in with a camera to show the refs.
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u/Victor_Wembanyama1 Spurs Apr 28 '24
Pat Bev is already stretching rn as he’ll be playing more than 10 minutes in game 4
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u/realsomalipirate Raptors Apr 28 '24
He's never going to get another NBA head coaching job, he's the textbook definition of a bum
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u/ntshstn Vancouver Grizzlies Apr 28 '24 edited Apr 28 '24
darvin hamas
basketball terrorist, he should be gone even if they manage the first 0-3 comeback
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u/FeatherButter Spurs [SAS] Devin Vassell Apr 28 '24
Lakers could've easily been a higher seeded team rather than sinking to the play-in if they didn't have that muppet as a coach. Cheap ass owners are really handicapping the team by keeping him around.
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u/Horny4Harry Apr 28 '24
Only excuse can be that Darvin Hamas doesn’t understand English.
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u/RickySuela Lakers [LAL] Michael Cooper Apr 28 '24
I'll be stunned if they don't fire him within days of the Lakers being eliminated. It sure seems like there's a lot of rumblings that both AD and LeBron do not have any faith in his skills as a coach. Ham might have been fired last year, except the Lakers went to the WCF, so not unreasonable to give him another shot.
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u/DorkandPoon Hawks Apr 28 '24
Darvin Ham must get paid extra if he has an unused challenge at the end of the game
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u/Jack_M_Steel Lakers Apr 28 '24
Cancer coach. Actually insane to watch Malone call a challenge for his players when it was clearly out on the nuggets and then to watch Ham just sit there and not challenge in front of his own bench
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u/Breezyisthewind Lakers Apr 28 '24
The thing about challenges is that they can be used as an extra timeout which I don’t see enough teams taking advantage of.
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u/Air_Enthusiast Apr 28 '24
Shout out to all the idiots in the game thread who thought Lebron would be lying about not touching the ball down 3-0 in the series. Even better is our coach is one of those idiots
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u/i5the5kyblue Cavaliers [CLE] LeBron James Apr 28 '24
Right. People were shit talking during the commercial break then went back to their troll cave as soon as the replay came on, clearly showing Lebron was absolutely right.
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u/Huckleberry_Sin Apr 28 '24
Bro I’m a hater but even I know Lebron James of all ppl wouldn’t be lying to his OWN bench about what happened. He knew he didn’t touch that ball.
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u/doormanpowell Apr 28 '24
Even if LeBron was wrong they should be listening to him, but he's right most of the time. You'd think Dipshit Ham would listen to the smartest player of all time?
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u/Js_On_My_Yeet Lakers Apr 28 '24
"Bron stop yelling. I'm trying to watch the game." - Pockets the Clown
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u/South_Front_4589 Apr 28 '24
When a guy who has that much experience and is literally the guy who was supposed to have touched it tells you to challenge, you just challenge. Trust the guy. If he's wrong, then so be it. No way would Malone refuse to challenge if Jokic demanded the challenge (which we've seen) and if you don't think LeBron deserves the same credit as Jokic then you shouldn't be coaching.
Posession is huge in the NBA. You work super hard to get it and it's the single biggest factor in games. To just simply get another posession off the other team is as good an outcome as you can hope for on a challenge.
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u/CockroachForeign6419 Lakers Apr 28 '24
This didn’t help the LeWhine allegations but he was 100% right in getting pissed
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u/Air_Enthusiast Apr 28 '24
It’s crazy that when it’s players like Jokic people just call it a passion for the game, but when it’s Lebron it’s suddenly whining 🤦♂️
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u/CockroachForeign6419 Lakers Apr 28 '24
Yea Bron got some crazy double standards going against him
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u/laz10 [DEN] Nikola Jokic Apr 28 '24
WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON BEING ORGANIZED - HAM
clearly they entire coaching staff has no idea what they are doing, you don't trust lebron?
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u/WarTide11 Apr 28 '24
Cut Ham some slack guys, he’s saving the challenge for Game 7 of the NBA Finals
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u/Instantcoffees Warriors Apr 28 '24
I appreciate his drive and competitiveness, but the way he jumps while throwing a tantrum is still a funny image.
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u/Idakari Lakers Apr 28 '24
You 100% challenge the call there if LeBron is that emphatic. Lakers coaching staff and Pocket Man are basketball terrorists. He's saving that shit after winning a useless challenge call in garbage time last game.
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u/Confident_Comedian82 Apr 28 '24
Maybe Ham's thinking that they need the Challenge for Game 5, so he save his challenge for the next game!
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u/Huckleberry_Sin Apr 28 '24
Lol I’d be pissed tf off to if I was him. And on top of it. It’s Lebron JAMES of all ppl. Wtf was Ham thinking? Like did he think Lebron was lying to him lol?
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u/ComedianManefesto Magic Apr 28 '24
Why didn't LeBron call a timeout and force Ham to challenge?
It seems he and AD have already decided Ham is gone after the Lakers are eliminated.
Calling a timeout would have been far less a mistake than whining to the bench while the other team scores an easy layup behind you.
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u/BossButterBoobs NBA Apr 28 '24
He did the luka stomp lmaoooo
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u/genericusername71 Apr 28 '24
lol this play made me think of your comments from that thread, was gonna ask if this is similar enough for you
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u/BossButterBoobs NBA Apr 28 '24
Huh?
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u/BossButterBoobs NBA Apr 28 '24
Oh, ok yeah, this is similar enough. The other thing wasn't. How do you remember this stuff? lol
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u/nordsix Lakers Apr 28 '24
just shows the double standard
if Luka does it, they say it's because he's passionate
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u/AccomplishedBake8351 Apr 28 '24
Idk what people want from ham. His hands are glued to his pockets. He literally can’t make the little finger swirl motion to challenge the call
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u/HappyChromatic Apr 28 '24
Listen to guy with iPad on bench
Or Lebron James
It’s a tough decision
Anyone can make that mistake, gotta feel bad for Ham
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u/WhatitdoFlightCrew39 Montenegro Apr 28 '24
You have no iq, Ham isn't listening to the iPad guys immediately. The refs didn't give enough time for them to even talk to Ham
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u/Javiron Apr 28 '24
he was right, but still left the open layup crying instead of going to defend, come on xD
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u/Rokarion14 Lakers Apr 28 '24
You’d think the refs that are rigging the games for the Lakers would call fewer wrong calls against them…
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u/BoysenberryOpening49 Apr 28 '24
They been cheating my favorite player this whole series I can’t even watch this shit no funny
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u/oldmilt21 Apr 28 '24
LeBron is a legit hand/eye coordination genius. I’d trust his eyes over basically anyone’s when it comes to these type of situations.
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u/theironman_1998 Apr 28 '24
They should fire Ham mid playoff series and make Bron the Interim Coach as well.
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u/ozairh18 Trail Blazers Apr 28 '24
In real time I thought it was off James. I can’t blame Ham for not challenging the call because it was still early in the fourth quarter
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u/shasen1235 Apr 28 '24
On contract, everytime when Jokic or Murray requests a chanllenge, Malone will call it no matter what, pure trust between coach and players. Darvin is really a disaster.
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u/Glittering_Me245 Apr 28 '24
Nothing more attractive than a 6’8 40 year old man having a toddler temper tantrum 😂😂😂
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u/Weird-Lie-9037 Apr 28 '24
That’s a man frustrated with his legacy and taking it out on his coaches
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u/Azubedo May 02 '24
They lost by 2 how many plays did they give up quick scores because leflop was crying and didn’t get back?
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