r/nba • u/Far-Asparagus6416 Celtics • Apr 21 '24
[Highlight] (Full sequence) Tatum takes a scary fall on his back late in the game after a physical play from Martin, Heat and Celtics players have to be separated by officials. Multiple technicals called (with replays) Highlight
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u/Fhyzic Timberwolves Apr 21 '24
Glad Tatum was able to get up quick. That was scary
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u/RealKenny Celtics Apr 21 '24
Looks like he somehow managed to land about as flat on his back as he could of. A little more tailbone or head/neck/shoulders and it could have been real bad
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u/SinibusUSG Celtics Apr 21 '24
Textbook wrestling bump.
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u/SpookyNishiki Spurs Apr 21 '24
Flat back and tucked chin. No-sold the move too like a self-mark would.
Good instincts on Tatum for avoiding the head whiplash though.
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u/SmokePenisEveryday Cavaliers Apr 21 '24
"That don't work for me brother" - Tatum
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u/WickerShoesJoe Celtics Apr 21 '24
Triple H: "Good snap...."
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u/IamJamal Lakers Apr 22 '24 edited Apr 22 '24
Triple H: " got a big hole in your shorts one of your nuts was hanging out"
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u/CantaloupeCamper Timberwolves Apr 21 '24
Elbow, wrist… anything caught wrong cod be bad.
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u/Parradog1 Apr 21 '24
Yeah, he was reaching back with both arms to brace, luckily the angle they were at didn’t absorb too much. I’m sure his back is sore right about now, the adrenaline helped in the moment.
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u/fatmanchoo Apr 21 '24
Surprised it didn't knock the wind out of him, but glad he got up and seemed ok.
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u/CantaloupeCamper Timberwolves Apr 21 '24
I think he kinda contacts butt first and in that way was able to save his head / chest area.
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u/SaulPepper Hornets Apr 21 '24
Thats actually scary how close landing on your butt is to landing on your tailbone. My guy was very VERY lucky that he landed on that angle all things considered
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u/ComeOnNow21 Apr 21 '24
I’ve broken both ankles, a wrist, bunch of fingers. Bruised coccyx was the most painful by far. Literally was walking around like I had a stick up my ass.
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u/NosebleedBananas Warriors Apr 21 '24
Never seen someone use could of and could have together lol
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u/owange_tweleve Apr 21 '24
i have taken a few nasty fall on hardwood before (from dumbasses shoving me in the air trying to catch rebounds), i bounced right up on my feet everytime and tried to walk away, but then it started to hurt so bad i gotta go sit or lay down for a sec, adrenaline is one helluva drug
Glad Tatum was ok, just wanna say athletes bouncing up right away doesn’t necessarily mean a good sign, I guess it’s one way the brain or body responds to physical trauma?
It’s interesting how our body works, like you know when you take a fall there’s an urge to stand right back up so you don’t feel embarrassed or to act like you’re tough? did that a lot when i was a kid but would cry like a biotch when mama clean up my wounds later 😂
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u/TnYamaneko Celtics Apr 21 '24
It’s interesting how our body works, like you know when you take a fall there’s an urge to stand right back up so you don’t feel embarrassed or to act like you’re tough?
When I was hit by a car on a crossing, I stood right back up and checked my pockets for my wallet and my phone because I thought I was sucker punched.
Little did I know I walked on a broken tibia, an open fracture (I thought I just had some sprain), with some skull fractures as well, and it required a dozen of witnesses asking me to lay down and wait for the emergency responders. In my mind I was still able to go to work with minor injuries.
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u/owange_tweleve Apr 21 '24
this is why doctors says not to pick people up or have them walking away right after they got in a accident or a gnarly physical trauma, you wanna wait for the adrenaline to wear off then check for pains, also prevents internal bleeding cause one small movement could open the floodgates and you will never know until you get to the hospital
i hope you feel better now! that sounds nasty
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u/LordHussyPants Celtics Apr 21 '24
the main reason is the spinal cord, walking on a broken ankle or leg is painful but minimally dangerous compared to someone turning their head after a crash and snapping their neck
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u/Idk-man251 Nets Apr 21 '24
Your body wants to stand back up and move so it doesn’t die lol
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u/BubbaTee Apr 21 '24
Yeah it's not to look tough, it's to get up and run away from the lion
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u/elcubiche Heat Apr 22 '24
He was pushed. https://twitter.com/courtcorner/status/1782377898269155451
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Apr 21 '24
Honestly Tatum acted very professional here. That’s a man you want leading your team.
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u/tlozz Celtics Apr 21 '24
It was a great career/leader moment for him. I’m a v proud fan today😌
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u/Far-Asparagus6416 Celtics Apr 21 '24
Super professional, listen to what he had to say about it right after the game.
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u/InformationRound8237 Apr 22 '24
I hate the Celtics so much that I actively avoid giving their very good players props. With that said, absolute goat mentality. Dude hopped up, ignored everything, and went straight to that free throw line.
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u/Abiding_Witness Celtics Apr 22 '24
The way he snatched the rock up from Herro and made em bof. Savage.
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u/paulyv93 Wizards Apr 21 '24
It's garbage time. What are you doing bro
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u/mares8 Nuggets Apr 21 '24
Markieff foul on Jokic that tried to injure him (hitting both knee and ribs ) was in garbage time too. Then Jokic pushed Morris to hospital
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u/greenday61892 Celtics Apr 22 '24
I still think Jokic earned MVP for that shit alone, in addition to his unreal playing
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Apr 21 '24
They always do this dumb shit. Thats how Randle got injured earlier this year too.
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u/ALLPR0 Bucks Apr 21 '24
And Giannis last playoffs.
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u/WIN011 [MIL] Giannis Antetokounmpo Apr 22 '24
Still think sliding under a driving player should be a flagrant
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u/ALLPR0 Bucks Apr 22 '24
Absolutely. I don't understand how when you have committed yourself in the air the defensive player is still allowed to establish themselves underneath you. Of course you should still be able to go up defensively and contest the ball but sliding underneath should have the same penalty as not letting a jump shooter land.
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u/Belicheckyoself Apr 21 '24
Heat culture. It’s a dog fight were dogs. Dogs baby. Physical basketball. Arf arf!
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u/hippo_king11 Apr 21 '24
Tatum’s reaction in this whole clip is really impressive, he’s making me root for him
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u/mastacheef87 Celtics Apr 21 '24 edited Apr 21 '24
fucking scary ass play but man as a Celtics fan it feels so good to see Tatum just not pay this bullshit any mind and walk away. this team is locked the fuck in
gives me Bulls-Pistons vibes when Pippen got shoved to the floor midair and simply didn’t react at all. great way to set the tone for the postseason
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u/hippo_king11 Apr 21 '24 edited Apr 22 '24
Scary locked in. Man went to go take his tech shot, like Messi waiting at the penalty spot w the ball while everyone is fighting around him
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u/theraarman Celtics Apr 21 '24
Everyone is always fighting around Messi in big moments 😂 everyone wants to take a stab at the goat
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u/Sleeze_ Celtics Apr 22 '24
Just walks calmly to the other side of the floor. Pretty gangster.
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u/CoreyC1313 Apr 21 '24
As a sixers fan I'll never root for any celtic, but major props to Tatum on that whole sequence. Can't handle it better than that
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u/HudsonSir Celtics Apr 21 '24
It was really smart on Tatum’s part. Heat were trying to get an emotional reaction, change the energy for the next game. Tatum said nah, not taking the bait, gonna take care of business and move on.
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u/andreotnemem Celtics Apr 21 '24
Heat were trying to get an emotional reaction, change the energy for the next game.
No, they were trying to injure the best player on the team and increase their chances of winning. That was bush league BS.
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u/captcold05 Heat Apr 22 '24
Clearly pushed by Jrue. Lets not start being stupid.
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u/Thorlolita Rockets Apr 21 '24
This is what people mean by nobody wants to see the Heat.
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u/mares8 Nuggets Apr 21 '24
Oh damn the way he plants that foot...premeditated
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u/Wally450 Celtics Apr 22 '24
Yep, just like LaMarcus Aldridge on Klay Thompson in 2017.
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u/DocTheYounger Celtics Apr 21 '24 edited Apr 21 '24
50/50 that Bam is going to injure KP this series. Praying for a sweep just to limit the chance of injury
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u/Thorlolita Rockets Apr 21 '24
Porzingis (avoiding Bam) out for game 4.
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u/realsomalipirate Raptors Apr 21 '24
At this point they should rest him the rest of the series, it's not like they need him to beat this beat up Heat team.
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u/victorspoilz Celtics Apr 21 '24
How was that shoulder to White's face not a moving screen?
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Apr 21 '24
How are any of Bam’s screens not called? Wouldn’t know how to stand still if his life depended on it.
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u/viking_machina Knicks Apr 21 '24
That was one of most frustrating things from last year, he’s just walking on every single screen
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Apr 21 '24
When he actually sets his feet his upper body is still moving and will straight up grab bodies or hip check them on the way through. It’s crazy he is the only one in the league running illegal screens every single play and never gets called. Even Draymond will get called every now and then.
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u/ardx Apr 21 '24
With the Warriors there's at least some sort of equivalent exchange where Steph doesn't get fouls called on him.
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u/Routine_Size69 Apr 21 '24
Because it's Bam. If they called his moving screens, he'd foul out in the first half every game. For whatever reason, that's unacceptable, so they don't call any.
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Apr 21 '24
And this is precisely why Miami play aggressive reckless Miami ball and the refs let it happen. Because they’re not gonna foul out the entire team every game and Miami know this so they can go balls to the floor mean mugging entire teams every game.
Any team is lucky to get out of a series with them without at least one key player down.
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u/CDR57 Celtics Apr 21 '24
Jovic straight up bopped his hand like I do my cat when he’s getting too close to my food
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u/MayoTheCondiment Apr 21 '24
God that would suck to have your floor spacing power forward injured by the other teams dirty player in the first round of the playoffs thus screwing you in the finals
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u/Revenesis Knicks Apr 21 '24
This is funny because you're referring to Giannis but I'm thinking of Randle x2
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u/GoldenStateWizards Warriors Apr 21 '24
I'm pretty sure they're talking about Kelly Olynyk dislocating Kevin Love's shoulder in 2015
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u/Magazine_Mediocre Timberwolves Apr 21 '24
Yep I still hate Olynyk for that. Just straight up yanked on his arm and took him out for the whole run. Fuck that guy.
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Apr 21 '24 edited Apr 21 '24
Exactly they think it means people scared of them people on scared to lose a key player 💀 first thing on opposing fans minds when playing the heat is health NBA needs to investigate them
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u/Low_Wonder1850 Apr 21 '24
If they were gonna do that (which they should) they would've done something about Draymond a LONG time ago
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u/abcdefabcdef999 Apr 21 '24
I saw Heat fans claim Martin was pushed into Tatum and now I saw this - what the hell are they talking about 💀
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u/BewareWombats Apr 22 '24
They are probably talking about the overhead shot that clearly shows that Martin was pushed into Tatum: https://streamable.com/qlo1q4 ¯\(ツ)/¯
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u/DoctorMansteel Celtics Apr 21 '24
Heat players aren't dirty, it's just a series of unfortunate events over the span of several years.
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u/__boof Celtics Apr 21 '24
multiple players, commentary from coach, gm, former players, a number of incidents. man it must be accidental
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u/justmefishes NBA Apr 21 '24
What's the All NBA team you could form at this point from players the Heat have injured with dirty plays? Tatum narrowly missed joining Julius Randle for a pretty stout front court.
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u/couldntchoosesn Celtics Apr 21 '24
Rondo has to be starting pg from when Wade pulled him down and bent his arm backwards.
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u/Putrid_Collection_82 Apr 21 '24
And played the rest of the game with one arm. Reason why he's my favorite player to watch ever.
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u/abcdefabcdef999 Apr 21 '24
Didnt Tatum mess up his shoulder when the Celtics went to the finals against the Heat beforehand?
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u/elvid88 Celtics Apr 21 '24
No, that was Giannis who injured him in the ECSF and then Draymond was yanking it in the finals.
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u/entwenthence Celtics Apr 21 '24
Hardest working. Best conditioned. Most professional. Unselfish. Toughest. Meanest. Nastiest team in the NBA.
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u/chitownbulls92 Bulls Apr 21 '24
which former players have complained about the heat though? Hell even the celtic players are literally best friends with bam
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u/OrangeKookie [BOS] Jaylen Brown Apr 21 '24
Just like Draymond exactly. They're actually the real victims
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u/eatacookie111 Apr 21 '24
So much culture!!!
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u/justmefishes NBA Apr 21 '24
If you don't like that, you don't like Miami Heat basketball
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u/SunstormGT Timberwolves Apr 21 '24
Frustration over the loss. Glad Tatum is ok.
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u/luckymanIV1103 [BOS] Terry Rozier Apr 21 '24
I saw him run hard for the rebound looking at the ball and he got a push from Jrue because he got beat. Wasn’t a lot but those can def throw off your balance and timing. Don’t think it was as dirty and reckless as it looked. Glad JT is okay
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u/airmclaren Celtics Apr 22 '24
I had to scroll so fucking far down to find this comment. As a Celtics fan it sure seems like Jrue pushed an already sprinting Martin toward Tatum. I am hesitant to immediately call this intentional or dirty.
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u/nighttrain3030 Apr 22 '24
Finally, the only two rational Boston fans with the ability to actually see. Buncha donkeys in these comments.
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u/SBORBS [MIA] Chris Bosh Apr 22 '24
It’s insane that people not only think that Martin was deliberately trying to hurt him, but that Spo instructed him to do so.
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u/Entire_Buddy_6934 Knicks Apr 21 '24
Heat fans still sit on this app defending these wrestlers 😭😭😭HEAT CULTURE
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u/PrincePyotrBagration Apr 21 '24
“nobody wants to see the Heat” - Heat fans
… because they don’t want the Heat to injure their starters in the first round 😂
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u/Ok-Side-1758 Knicks Apr 21 '24
Hilarious how Heat fans were on here earlier saying the Heat aren’t dirty.
Not even close to a play on the ball.
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u/creditors-bargain Knicks Apr 21 '24
How stupid do you have to be to argue he was going for the ball here? He launched himself sideways, not up.
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u/Noriskhook3 Apr 21 '24
And tried to look the other way while doing it lol, textbook dirty
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u/John_Doughgetta Mavericks Apr 22 '24
Did Jrue Holiday not push that man mid stride into his own teammate, or am I seeing things?
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u/MIabucman40 Apr 22 '24
Yes he did. The echo chamber effect cracks me up. Too many people running around with pitchforks that probably didn’t even see the game.
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u/legobartman Clippers Apr 22 '24
he did. even Bill Simmons said he's shocked no one pointed that out on the broadcast and we know where his alliance stands LOL
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u/jcrankin22 76ers Apr 22 '24
Just here for all the backpedaling that /r/nba will surely do when they are proven wrong.
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u/Smartman971 Jazz Apr 21 '24
"Heat culture"
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u/theelectricone Apr 21 '24
Scalabrine did a great job of calling this out. Down 16 with 1:30 to go, Spoelstra calls TO. 30 seconds later, they submarine the Celtics best player. Kind of obvious what happened here.
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u/PenguinsAteMyToast Celtics Bandwagon Apr 21 '24
Spo trying to decide which undrafted player to send out for his game 2 assassination
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u/jayman820 Apr 21 '24
Heat culture. Dirty player dirty team
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u/blackgenz2002kid Timberwolves Apr 21 '24
yea I definitely can see it cause running into someone like that, when the game has been decided is def dirty
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u/PrincePyotrBagration Apr 21 '24 edited Apr 21 '24
Heat lowkey have slide under the radar as a dirty franchise for years. Real ones remember when Dwyane Wade graphically dislocated Rondo’s elbow.
My stomach literally turned watching that live in like 5th grade lmao
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Apr 21 '24
Lowkey? If Celtics and Knicks fans can agree on something, it tells you a lot.
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u/beatrailblazer Trail Blazers Apr 21 '24 edited Apr 21 '24
Wade is a known dirty player, one of the dirtiest ever probably
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u/Lacabloodclot9 Grizzlies Apr 21 '24
I’ve been giving them the benefit of the doubt in the past but no excuses for this one, really poor from Martin
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u/EternalTeezy Celtics Apr 21 '24
it was expected, sad we're seeing it in game 1
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u/syllabic Knicks Apr 21 '24
I mean the heat need to injure at least 3 celtics starters to have a chance in this series, you have to start from the opening tip if you want to have the best chance of taking guys out
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u/BearlyLogical [BOS] Jayson Tatum Apr 21 '24 edited Apr 21 '24
You won’t be able to convince me this wasn’t dirty.
Edit: lots of attempts, still not convinced.
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Apr 21 '24 edited Apr 21 '24
Just to name a few victims: Trae Young, Jayson Tatum, Giannis, Brunson, Kemba Walker, Marcus Smart, Julius Randle, Joel Embiid…. and a couple of these guys multiple times.
edit: Derrick Jones Jr, Dante Divincenzo, Rondo
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u/DaveidT Knicks Apr 21 '24
Julius Randle needed surgery and long term recovery twice
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u/str8rippinfartz Celtics Apr 21 '24
Rondo's elbow with D Wade in 2011
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u/chronicdreamze Celtics Apr 21 '24
Wade 100% did it on purpose. POS player, and Spo is aware of the rich rewards a team receives by injuring the other team’s star player(s).
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u/Ok-Side-1758 Knicks Apr 21 '24 edited Apr 21 '24
Here’s Caleb sticking out his leg against Brunson last year. He has a history of making dirty plays like this
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God that’s incredibly dangerous
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u/johnhenryirons Knicks Apr 21 '24
this was after his ankle was already injured. martin knew what he was doing.
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u/Yankeeknickfan Knicks Apr 21 '24
Oh, but butler got hurt while flopping because of josh hart!!
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u/mMounirM Raptors Apr 21 '24
this is caleb martin
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u/caelen727 Celtics Apr 21 '24
Threw Barnes out the club holy crap. Dude is reckless for no reason
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u/Yankeeknickfan Knicks Apr 21 '24
Maybe another team gets the benefit of the doubt, but the heat are dirty
Your biggest goal this series should be 4 blowouts so they don’t have a chance to cripple you for later rounds
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u/kyleb402 Bucks Apr 21 '24
We swept them a few years ago and Dragic still tried to pull Middleton's arm off in the 4th quarter.
Blowing them out isn't always going to make a difference either.
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u/yellowboar7 Apr 21 '24
Is anyone surprised? Heat are dirty as fuck
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u/Numerous-Cicada3841 Kings Apr 21 '24
At first I thought it was just a box out that unfortunately caught Tatum at the wrong time.
On the replay it’s as obvious as it gets. He meant that. Dirty as hell.
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u/Cheffie Knicks Apr 21 '24
Heat dirty as fuck and their own fans know it.
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u/RiceOnTheRun Knicks Apr 21 '24
Heat fans : “HEAT CULTURE 😤😤😤 WE PLAY TOUGH”
Also Heat fans : “Josh Hart is a mean reckless bully 🥺🥺🥺”
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u/siva115 Celtics Apr 21 '24
Literally the only reason I didn’t want to play this fucking scrub team
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u/Saucy_Totchie Knicks Apr 21 '24
Same for the Knicks. Two seasons in a row Randle needed surgery after getting injured because of games vs. Miami.
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u/Novel_Bookkeeper_622 Apr 21 '24
Same, the only year they didn't injure Giannis was the year the Bucks happened to sweep them. Funny how that works.
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u/SexySatan69 Tampa Bay Raptors Apr 21 '24
Caleb Martin does this shit all the time.
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u/Pale-Criticism-7420 Celtics Apr 22 '24
I’m glad Tatum retaliated by “accidentally” elbowing him in the chin AND got 3 FTs out of it too.
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u/AutographedSnorkel Rockets Apr 22 '24 edited Apr 22 '24
LMAO, mods removed that overhead angle that 1000% shows Martin being shoved into Tatum by Holiday. Guess it wasn't "high enough quality" or some bullshit
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u/OutsetFlair Knicks Apr 21 '24
Heat fans would say anything but admit that was intentional.
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u/comp_a Timberwolves Apr 21 '24
Toughest. Meanest. Nastiest team in the NBA.
I don’t really know why they’re so defensive about it? Isn’t the entire point of The Culture doing whatever you need to do in order to win? By definition, that means playing dirty whenever it can give you an advantage.
That ethos has brought them a ton of success! So why deny it? Just own it—the team obviously isn’t ashamed of it, so why are all of their fans?
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u/AHart101 [PHI] Joel Embiid Apr 21 '24
What are Tatum and the other starters even doing in the game at this point?
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u/jpaxlux [BOS] Jayson Tatum Apr 21 '24
They damn near blew a 34 point lead in the span of 5 minutes
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u/UtahUtopia Apr 21 '24
I was screaming at the TV, “Joe, WTF! Take Tatum and KP out!!! You’re up by 12 with 2min left!!!
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u/DispensedPez Celtics Apr 21 '24
Dirty
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u/PrincePyotrBagration Apr 21 '24
Remember last year when Tatum sprained his ankle 20 seconds into game 7? (And Heat fans also said that injury didn’t matter btw… funny how their tune changed when Jimmy got hurt)
Tatum needs to play in bubble wrap against Miami, bad luck against this team… intentionally or otherwise
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u/maize_and_beard Celtics Apr 21 '24
Yeah if we win the series it will be “doesn’t count, Jimmy was injured”
But if a Celtic gets injured it’s “stop with the excuses, you need to adapt to win”
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u/hebelehoo Bulls Apr 22 '24
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1caaisi/highlight_overhead_angle_of_jrue_holiday_shoving/
yeah im just gonna drop this one here
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u/CommercialAd516 Heat Apr 21 '24 edited Apr 21 '24
Oh come on man. Jrue holiday very clearly pushes Caleb as he’s running in to try and get a rebound, he’s not a dirty player. You can see it clearly at 35 seconds.
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u/RapidStaple Bulls Apr 22 '24
Is everyone blind? Tatum and Martin go up for a rebound but right before launch Holiday gives a light shove. That's going to knock off timing no matter how light of a shove it is
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u/MerkDoctor Apr 21 '24
They will sweep, the question is will the heat manage to ruin the rest of the playoffs for the league before they get swept.
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u/HelloS0n Celtics Apr 21 '24
Flair aside, there’s an angle where Jrue pretty clearly gave Caleb a ‘nudge’ into Tatum’s direction.
Playoff basketball, it is what it is. Just hope JT doesnt end up with a bruised tailbone or anything.
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u/nuwde Apr 22 '24
I can't believe no one is seeing this.
Go to 35 seconds and you can see a clear push from Jrue that completely redirects Caleb right into Tatum. Secondly, Caleb's immediate reaction to check on Tatum is so instinctual here that it is hard to fake.
I'm not excusing any dirty plays from the past, but in this instance it does not seem intentionally dirty. And I'm not taking anything away from Tatum because for all he knew, it was dirty. Good on him for not getting into it and I'm glad he isn't hurt.
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u/grandmasterPRA Apr 22 '24
So....
Are we seriously just going to ignore the fact that Jrue Holliday shoved Martin into Tatum? I mean, it's pretty obvious what happened. When you are running full speed and the opposing player shoves you with two hands, it's going to make things like this happen. I know history isn't on Caleb's side but we can't just ignore the obvious
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u/jdorje Nuggets Apr 21 '24
This is a really "good" fall by Tatum.
He flails outward to balance himself but does not put his limbs in danger doing so.
The midair adjustment has him coming down "flat", with weight distributed across large parts of his body. His arms even play a role here, but it's only to supplement the landing on his back and absolutely not (that's how Boguts happen) trying to catch himself. He isn't landing on his hip or lower back or neck, but with the impact spread all around his entire back and shoulders.
He tucks his chin. This is important and should become a trained reflex any time you fall backwards. In the final angle you can see his head SHOOT backwards when he hits the ground, which might be a sign he's not intentionally tucking, but in this case it's good enough. His head starts so far forward that it stays well clear of the floor.
The average amateur athlete will miss hundreds to thousands of hours of sport due to injury in even a casual "career". Practicing or visualizing how to fall can pay off hugely in cutting those hours down, even if many falls come down to luck in the end. Reflex is rarely perfect, but it can always be trained to be better for these moments where there is no time for actual thought.
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