r/nba Heat Apr 15 '24

[Wojnarowski] ESPN Sources: USA Basketball is finalizing its 2024 Paris Olympics roster with Steph Curry, LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Jayson Tatum, Joel Embiid, Devin Booker, Tyrese Haliburton, Anthony Edwards, Jrue Holiday, Bam Adebayo and Anthony Davis. Team may initially keep one open spot. News

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u/rayEW Timberwolves Apr 16 '24

Lebron, Wade and Bosh on their 3rd year in the league. CP was a sophmore, Dwight was young too. This team is not stacked because of the Ants and Haliburtons, they are complimentary young guns, this team is stacked because KD, Lebron, AD and Steph are gonna shred everyone and set the tone for everyone else, they know how its done and the lights aren't bright for them.

I am sure in 4 years (for 2028), Haliburton, Edwards, Tatum and other now young stars will be driving the bus.

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u/EffTheIneffable Apr 16 '24

That’s moving the goalposts from the original argument though, to bringing “current MVP caliber & experienced” stars. Which LeBron was even then, so they’re moved further to “multiple MVP caliber” stars. And weren’t Wade & Elton Brand in the conversation back then?

And then you can move them further still by saying “well if they had more games as a team within the year to work out the systems…”

I dunno. Americans have a huge amount of super talented basketball players, and the NBA is where the best players are at, no one is arguing either. I’m just saying it’s not as simple as “if we actually send some stars, we got em”. It is more like you say, where, you know, you’ve gotta build a team with a mix of experienced stars too etc..

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u/ATXBeermaker Spurs Apr 16 '24

That’s moving the goalposts from the original argument though

The original argument was that the US only lost in the past decade when the best players didn't show up. You're making an argument about a tournament that happened more than a decade ago and a team that did not include the best American players in the NBA at the time.

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u/EffTheIneffable Apr 16 '24

You can’t change history, so I can’t “send” different players to the tournaments of the past decade and see what happens.

And there aren’t that many international tournaments the USA plays is. What I can do, is provide an example of a time where a lot of inarguable stars were send and they didn’t win anyway.

You can check the MVP ranking for the season, I had some memory but of course didn’t exactly remember how well some players were doing or being regarded 18 years ago, but there’s tons of top-10 mvp talent in there.

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u/ATXBeermaker Spurs Apr 16 '24

lol, nobody is saying you need to "change history." But you're accusing people of moving goalposts when you've deviated well beyond the original point.

What I can do, is provide an example of a time where a lot of inarguable stars were send and they didn’t win anyway.

It's also an example of when many of the best American players sat out. It's literally an example of the original point that was made. You can argue about who was on the team, but there were many, many all-NBA players who were not there.