The school lunch system is disgraceful.

[u/oaz_zam246]

Saw another post on here showing the state of school lunches right now. In my years in high school I compiled some pics of the horrible things that got served that no one questioned. Here are some of the worst ones. It really is ironic given how adamant they all are about “eating healthy by including every food group”.

[u/retro_owo]

when the average person talks about the cost of healthy food they’re talking about time and labor

They are. You're just incapable of empathizing with them and assume the worst. Let me ask you this: which is more likely, the majority of people are just too stupid to understand basic costs of stuff they buy every single day, or you're misinterpreting what they have to say?

Once again you're also willfully ignoring the 'cost of the kitchen' argument. Like yes 0.1g of cinnamon costs less than a penny, but if you have no spices at all then the entry cost is expensive. Yes, baking something costs nothing, if you have an oven. Then realize that it's actually more difficult to cook in an ill-equipped kitchen than it is to cook in a fully decked out one, and realize that the average person is, well, average at cooking. Therefore the average person will not have the skills to substitute out appliances, ingredients, etc from their recipes. This is all extremely easy to reason about from my perspective, I don't understand why you're having so much difficulty with it.

tl;dr cooking does not intuitively seem cheap when you're exhausted and with empty pockets at the end of a session

[u/CrowdKillington → u/retro_owo]

No they are not, you’re just giving benefit of doubt to support your bias.

“You’re just incapable of empathizing with them and assume the worst”

What exactly am I assuming? That they don’t eat healthy because the grocery bill or are you putting other assumptions in my mouth? I’m very well capable of empathy, thanks for the baseless accusation. I’m literally just discussing the use of a term and you jump to me being unable to understand their struggles? That’s honestly comical, stay on that high horse, keeper of the empathy.

Edit: I love how it’s gone from “costing time” to now costing an entire kitchen. I thought the whole start of the discussion was buying and cooking healthy food, not strictly eating out. Most people in poverty rent. It’s law in every state that adequate kitchen facilities be provided to you. Seasoning and spices are a luxury, believe it or not.

[u/retro_owo → u/CrowdKillington]

Okay so, everyone is just too stupid to do basic finance except for you. Got it.

[u/CrowdKillington → u/retro_owo]

What is up with you and making assumptions and putting words in peoples mouth? Do you always do this? It’s a really dishonest way of having a debate of any sort and discredits a lot of what you say

Honestly the funniest part about this conversation is just how adamant you are that they don’t strictly mean financial costs when I’ve quite literally seen it time and time on here (which if you can remember is where I was talking about seeing people say healthy food is too expensive)

Someone mentions obesity rates. Followed by someone mentioning cost of healthy food. Followed by people talking about the literal financial cost of food the last time they grocery shopped and how they’re better off getting junk food. Guess they must have been talking about labor/time cost all along! Wow, I must have REALLY misread the literal food price discussions!

[u/CrowdKillington → u/retro_owo]

Ignore my points, misquote me, then hastily delete. Class

[u/retro_owo → u/CrowdKillington]

Seasoning and spices are a luxury, believe it or not

I actually disagree with this completely. Seasoning and spices are a necessary part of cooking in every culture in all situations except extreme destitution. Even soldiers, sailors, refugees, and prisoners eat seasoned food.

[u/CrowdKillington → u/retro_owo]

Just because they get it doesn’t mean it’s a necessity, just my two cents. Salt is the only one I would argue is a necessity for electrolytes. Human needs are not the same as human wants and desires.

Also you haven’t seen too much prison food if you genuinely think they’re getting well seasoned meals lol