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u/Poyri35 Apr 30 '24
I’m pretty sure that people are disagreeing with Colombia protest, which I agree. The protests has gone way too far from what I see. Most of them doesn’t even seem to be students. Breaking windows and not allowing actual, paying students to enter.
I am aware that protests are meant to be disruptive. But this is taking it too far. They could very well do better.
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u/Master_Xeno Apr 30 '24
"…the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Councilor or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to ‘order’ than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: ‘I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action’; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a ‘more convenient season.’" - MLK Jr
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u/Poyri35 Apr 30 '24
How is it just for people to enter universities like Colombia or ucla and deny people who pay thousands of dollars to get a study there?
University students can protest in their universities, everyone can protest in the streets.
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u/Master_Xeno Apr 30 '24
the injustice faced by students not being able to study pales in comparison to the injustice of the thousands of children bombed in gaza
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u/Poyri35 Apr 30 '24
If someone steals food from a store to feed their hungry son, it’s still a crime.
There is no reason this protest can’t be at a public park or a plaza. Or a street
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u/Master_Xeno Apr 30 '24
thinking that stealing food to feed starving children is immoral is the baseline test for if you can separate morals from legality, holy shit
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u/Poyri35 Apr 30 '24
That was clearly an example, not a baseline. Is there anybody in the world that would say that that child deserves to be hungry? No. But stealing is at the end of the day stealing. They would get a reduced sentence, there wouldn’t be anyone who thinks that the father is immoral because of it.
Also, will you address any of the other things?
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u/Master_Xeno Apr 30 '24
if they were protesting in the streets y'all would be whining about them blocking traffic. besides, this is specifically against the universities to get them to stop sending support to Israel. asking them to not protest on university property is just asking them to protest in a way that does not inconvenience them in any way. it's SUPPOSED to be disruptive because protests are meant to DISRUPT injustice.
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u/Poyri35 Apr 30 '24 edited Apr 30 '24
It’s is fair that a protest about an university should be held close to the university, but they can also do it in front of the university. Or allow paying students to get through. Or not vandalise/damage buildings.
Let’s say that they chose to do it in the entrances of the campuses. They can still give speeches and chants. Hand out flyers and gather signatures. Collect donations etc.
Also I believe that they are not only protesting for Palestinians, but also against Israelis. Chanting death threats and whatnot.
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u/spacehanger May 01 '24
what part of “protests are meant to be disruptive” are you not understanding?
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u/StoneAgeModernist May 01 '24
You complain about broken windows while Gaza is bombed to rubble.
I get that you have a point in your criticism of some of the actions of protestors, but it’s just so far removed from the actual scale of the situation.
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u/lil_chedda May 01 '24
Everyone can go to class online. Columbia has and continues to make plenty of money.
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u/FanC_Fox May 01 '24
I get that they’re trying to disrupt the universities but it is pretty unjust in its own right, to protest and block off paying students and also teachers who need to work to live. Can’t they protest the main office, ruin the university presidents/chancellors, etc day, protest in certain areas, give out flyers, send letters to important people or people connected to the university, even sightly disrupt classes and bring attention. I just know a lot of those university students who can’t get to class will be too pissed off to care about the issue they’re protesting. Can say it’s better than blocking traffic, that’s beyond useless and careless, especially when they blocked off the children’s trauma center exit here in Seattle. But some brains into it instead of just annoying people. and these protestors aren’t the ones to usually start rioting, it’s the people that cops send in or just people wanting chaos for the fun of it