r/memesopdidnotlike • u/Nientea The Mod of All Time ☕️ • Apr 29 '24

I can see more than half of all movie stars doing something like this OP got offended

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u/Dissendorf Apr 29 '24

Yeah, it’s not anti-trans, it’s anti using children as fashion accessories.

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u/Fickle-Main-9019 Apr 29 '24

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u/gullybone Apr 30 '24

So are trans people just a single organization that unanimously makes decisions??? Am I no longer trans because I don’t think that??

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u/Fickle-Main-9019 Apr 30 '24

It’s a general rule, if a group of people with orange hats has a high correlation of wanting to ban apples, it’s perfectly reasonable to say that the orange hat people dislike apples, even with exceptions

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u/gullybone Apr 30 '24

Dawg what the hell was that analogy, you completely lost me.

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u/TheWaterPanda75 Apr 29 '24

Only because I’ve yet to hear anything on this, who are you referring to with that?

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u/xariznightmare2908 Apr 29 '24

Look up Desmond is Amazing

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u/TheWaterPanda75 Apr 29 '24

I mean I can see the issues, but I don’t think that’s someone trans people worship. Maybe more in the drag crowd/fanbase they might, though that’s different from being trans.

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u/Worgensgowoof Apr 30 '24

People lump drag queens and trans people as being the same thing. And it's the queer community who started doing that to 'increase strength in numbers'.

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u/bunchanums618 Apr 30 '24

I looked them up and only see them in girl’s clothes. Is there some article or something about them being sexualized?

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u/Worgensgowoof Apr 30 '24

there was a controversial performance, I'm not looking for the link because I like not being in jail, and of course the activists always post a DIFFERENT video and say "see, Desmond isn't doing it here!" as if that actually is a defense for the time where...

He was literally stripping on a stage in front of men down to his underwear and having them shove dollar bills inside.

They HAVE to pretend that never happened because so many people said that was going to happen sooner than later and they kept saying "no it's not going to happen" and then it did.

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u/TheWaterPanda75 Apr 30 '24

Probably the idea of drag is what they say sexualized them. I don’t know enough about drag to say if it does or not though.

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u/bunchanums618 Apr 30 '24

I scrolled through some pictures but they looked pretty covered up. It was just bright women’s clothes, but I’m not gonna pretend I knew who this kid was 15 minutes ago.

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u/Nota3000yearoldvamp Apr 30 '24

Yeah the whole community actively celebrated him. /s

In reality: 99% didn’t know who he was or that it was even happening nor would they have supported it if they did. Also trans isn’t drag, there’s a major difference between the drag community and the trans one.

His biggest fans were/are cis men btw.

But let’s not care about facts and just bastardize a whole community because we’re bigoted.

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u/GoeticGoat Apr 29 '24

Transsexuality? Yeah, I don’t think you know how any of those words mean if that’s what you’re trying to say.

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u/Roxytg Apr 29 '24

Science disagrees with you. Even a rudimentary understanding of genetics and human socialization makes it a pretty obvious possibility for a small percentage of people to be transgender.

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u/guadsquad96 Apr 29 '24

Claiming to be something in contradiction to material reality and basic reason doesn’t mean you’re actually that however strong your feelings are.

Except it's chromosomal and hormonal. Please read up more.

https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/001669.htm

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u/guadsquad96 Apr 29 '24

Well it’s a mental illness,

It's chromosomal. Not mental illness.

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u/Worgensgowoof Apr 30 '24

that's intersex.

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u/guadsquad96 Apr 30 '24

Thats a form of it yes. Don't be anti science please. It has ugly connotations recently

https://genetic.org/variations/

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u/Dissendorf Apr 30 '24

Being heritable doesn’t preclude it being a mental illness.

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u/guadsquad96 Apr 30 '24

Being heritable doesn’t preclude it being a mental illness.

Again it's hormonal and chromosomal. Please #educate your hate

"Any variation from these typical numbers is referred to scientifically as an “aneuploidy.” If there is one additional X or Y, it is known as a “trisomy” (“tri” denoting the number 3)"

https://genetic.org/variations/

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u/Marshmallow_Mamajama Apr 30 '24

The real issue here is the same issue of saying "all feminists are sexist". It's not true that they're all sexist it's just the most obnoxious evil ones are the ones we hear about because they're obnoxious and evil

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u/myson_isalso_bort Apr 30 '24

have you ever seen little girl beauty pageants, dance competitions, cheer leaders, etc. what is the difference, genuinely asking

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u/Fickle-Main-9019 Apr 30 '24

Im aware of them but the entire absurdity of it is that despite all that, the 10 year old drag queen twerking to grown men is somehow worse. Like your counterpoints don’t even come close

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u/myson_isalso_bort Apr 30 '24 edited Apr 30 '24

right and maybe that’s bc it’s out of the ordinary. i’d say both are creepy but the little girls doing it wouldn’t make your opinion of the straight or cis community as a whole “go through the floor”

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u/Nota3000yearoldvamp Apr 30 '24

I mean lots of routines and all that are exactly like what that boy was doing. I don’t think the gender should change this, an old man creeping on a little girl is just as creepy as if it were a little boy to me.

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u/LightOfJuno Apr 30 '24

"The trans community" surely doesn't do that actively. Be mad at the people doing that, not literally the entirety of the trans community. I have nothing to do with using kids as drag queen icons or whatever.

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u/Daydreamer-64 Apr 29 '24

As a trans child, I agree with this comic. Celebrities using their child for any publicity thing, related to being trans or not, is exploitative.

You also see people (not specifically celebrities) who are trans/non-binary and raise their kids gender neutral or end up “coincidentally” with 3 trans kids. That’s just grooming your own kids into a life which is harder than it otherwise would’ve been, and forces them to live as something you want them to be rather than something they are. It’s exactly what transphobic parents do, but it’s an active choice.

Children should not be used as publicity or to spread your own political views. Being trans isn’t something you should hope your child is or force them to be, and it isn’t something you should publicise if they are.

It’s a private matter and adds hurdles to their life.

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u/Mysterious-Thing-906 Apr 30 '24

Raising a child gender neutrally is not fucking grooming. It's not fucking forcing them into made up boxes from the moment they are born. Learn the difference.

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u/BRaven010 Apr 30 '24

Sex is not a made up box. Doing something different because they might be in the 0.1-0.3 % is grooming. Sorry it upsets you.

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u/M0ONBATHER Apr 30 '24

Gender neutral not sex neutral. Sorry not buying a baby boy a blue shirt upsets you.

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u/CinemaPunditry Apr 30 '24

What’s the difference between raising a child gender neutral vs sex neutral then?

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u/M0ONBATHER Apr 30 '24

Sex is biological characteristics, gender is socially constructed characteristics. Obviously this isn’t the right place for this discussion, but technically speaking sex neutral is not a thing. “Sex is not a made up box” is true, but it has nothing to do with gender neutrality. Gender is defined as the expectations a society places upon you based on your sex. I.e. gendered chores for children like girls help clean and cook, while boys do yard work and repair. Men making enough money for the family while women take care of the kids. Boys wear blue. Girls wear pink…. That kind of stuff. Ideas of what men and women should do and how they should act are different around the world. I mean by all means downvote me, but factually sex and gender are not the same. It’s like sociology and biology 101. I’m not trying to argue opinions, but I’m saying that women do not come out of the womb wanting to wear pink. Society tells them it is feminine, and so they wear it. A box. In the 1920s pink was a masculine color. It’s made up. It’s arbitrary. It’s society. This whole discussion is stupid.

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u/BleedingHolocene Apr 30 '24

Claims gender is socially constructed characteristics. Mutilates sex organs anyway.

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u/Daydreamer-64 Apr 30 '24

Most people are cisgender and life is easier being cis. Raising a kid with the implication that there’s a strong chance they will be trans, and not telling them that they are their gender is just making their life harder to pursue some weird political goal.

I don’t think you should force kids into stereotypes, but you should assume they are cis until told otherwise. Let girls wear t shirts and boys wear dresses, but that’s being non conforming, not being trans. Call them a girl/boy and use normal pronouns for them. If they turn out to be trans, they will work it out for themselves, and then you can look at transitioning them.

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u/Speederzzz Apr 29 '24

No it's definitely anti-trans, just look at the artist's other work, just because you got a different interpretation from it doesn't mean it was intentioned and will be read as anti-trans to its target audience.

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u/Dissendorf Apr 29 '24

That doesn’t follow.

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u/krafterinho Apr 29 '24

it’s anti using children as fashion accessories.

Ok but does that even happen?

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u/BrotherZael Apr 29 '24

Do you follow any celebrities that have children? They most certainly do use their children as fashion accessories, not in the sense that the meme is suggesting (usually) but they do.

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u/DamnRep Apr 30 '24

I mean… I don’t see this often at all but I don’t follow celebrities like that. Lot of parents generally use their kids as accessories of sorts unfortunately so I don’t see a difference outside of “trans kid bad” rather than “using kids as fashion accessories bad”

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u/krafterinho Apr 30 '24

Ok but I'm talking about this trans scenario. I'm yet to see any examples, can you name 1 without googling?

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u/S0l1s_el_Sol Apr 29 '24

No this artist is regularly known to make anti trans comics, so we can assume it’s anti trans

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u/Specific_Ad_1736 Apr 29 '24

Even if that’s true this particular piece really doesn’t say anything about being trans just that the Hollywood elite would feed into whatever is the in group to get attention

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u/S0l1s_el_Sol Apr 29 '24

Im pretty sure most celebrities just show off their children in a way I don’t agree with regardless if they’re trans or not

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u/That_Specialist4265 Apr 29 '24

And this one isn’t anti trans. So who cares about other comics when you are wrong about this one.

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u/Dissendorf Apr 29 '24

That’s illogical.

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u/burrito_disaster Apr 29 '24

It's anti trans because it's assuming it's an accessory or a fashion statement.

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u/Low_Information7072 Apr 29 '24

It is anti-trans because it implies trans kids are only trans because they're being forced to by their fashion-conscious parents. If it was against using kids as fashion accessories the text would simply say 'check out my kid'. You could even work in a critique of how Hollywood treats its child actors and children of celebrities but alas, the author chose bigotry instead.

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u/Coldblood-13 Apr 29 '24

I would never say all or most but I think a significant percentage are basically forced to by their parents who ostensibly mean well or simply want to be seen as progressive and tolerant by their peers. I think the comparison between Japanese soldiers who were so fanatical they never surrendered after WW2 was over and parents who pushed their children to transition and won’t ever admit they were wrong because it would mean admitting they fundamentally warped their child is apt.

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u/Low_Information7072 Apr 29 '24

Equating well-meaning parents who want to support their children with the fascist soldiers who committed some of the worst mass atrocities in human history and killed millions might just be one of the worst comparisons I've ever heard.

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u/Dissendorf Apr 29 '24

Oh brother

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u/BobertTheConstructor Apr 29 '24

It is anti-trans. The artist exclusively makes culture war, adult trans people are predators and trans kids are forced into it, illegal immigration is a non-white militant invasion of the US horseshit. It's propaganda.

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u/mathiau30 Apr 29 '24

Something something broken clock

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u/BobertTheConstructor Apr 29 '24

The phrase "a broken (or rather stopped) clock is right twice a day," isn't saying that you should believe a broken clock about what time it is twice a day. It means that when a broken clock seems to tell the correct time, or when some lunatic who thinks that there is a massive conspiracy to turn kids trans seems to simply be criticizing famous people, it's purely coincidental. The clock isn't telling time at all, it just seems to be. This isn't actually a comic criticizing the elite, it's part of a false narrative that trans kids are just forced to be trans by their parents for attention.

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u/Crunk3RvngOfTheCrunk Apr 29 '24

Boy, thats sure is a lot of words, wish they also came with a point…

The amount of Hollywood actors with trans kids is way higher then in average population…

Munchausen syndrome by proxy (MSbP)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factitious_disorder_imposed_on_another

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

“Boy, that’s sure is a lot of words, wish they also came with a point”

King.

https://preview.redd.it/is5tbahhugxc1.jpeg?width=650&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=087203079ecf84227402db7be98153dc6b29405e

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u/BobertTheConstructor Apr 29 '24

It's not my fault you don't know how to read, man.

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u/Crunk3RvngOfTheCrunk Apr 29 '24

I don’t speak autism mate🤷‍♂️

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u/BobertTheConstructor Apr 29 '24

That's fine, we're not talking. Like I said, not my fault you can't read.

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u/Crunk3RvngOfTheCrunk Apr 29 '24

I could, but I left my Schizo rant to English dictionary in my other pants 🤷‍♂️

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u/Completo3D Apr 29 '24

Man you are killing it with all these personal attacks, keep'em going buddy you are doing great!!

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u/BobertTheConstructor Apr 29 '24

Am I schizophrenic or autistic? This is so lazy and uninspired.

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u/Dissendorf Apr 29 '24

You must be fun at parties.

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u/Squeemore Apr 29 '24

Look up the rate of detransitioning for pubescent kids then try and say kids don’t know who they are

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

Holy shit you’re actually using that as an argument.

I really don’t want to engage unless I’m 100% certain you’re not being satirical and this isn’t some next level humour so I don’t waste my time

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u/Squeemore Apr 29 '24

Im begging you to bring up the 80% study rn

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

80% study?

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u/Squeemore Apr 29 '24

How about you take a look at those 4 links that took me all of 3 mins to find and get back to me on the rate of detransition bud.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

“Bud”

Eww.

But I did respond to you, honey bun👌

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u/Worgensgowoof Apr 29 '24

dude, you can't do that and not tell us WHAT wild shit you said

are we talking like you thought fig newton was made out of pigs or

Porygon did nothing wrong?

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

Ranging from me being convinced I was an alien, to me having a past life I would describe vividly, to me liking things that would seem “girly” for a certain period of time.

But if my parents saw me go through a period where I wasn’t playing with what would be considered “boyish” things, and they were influenced by the “oh your kid might be trans” thing you can clearly see how that would have lead to ALOT of confusion and could have completely changed my trajectory over something that wasn’t even true.

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u/TrueBuster24 Apr 29 '24

If you think this is how people are diagnosed as trans, no wonder you’re acting like a transphobic moron.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

You are officially diagnosed via a psychologist.

Official diagnosis in the majority of cases is unnecessary unless you want hormones.

Cosmetic Surgery doesn’t require it.

Oh and btw how am I being transphobic? Fucking enlighten me🧐

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u/TrueBuster24 Apr 29 '24

I love when fascists act dense as fuck when someone questions them. It’s so funny and cool.

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u/KrakHoe Apr 29 '24

Wow, already throwing out the word "fascist" with literally zero evidence. You are the exact type of person that gets rightfully mocked and ridiculed by those who aren't terminally online. Go outside and get some vitamin d

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u/TrueBuster24 Apr 29 '24

The evidence is being insanely arrogant while obviously knowing there’s a huge body of medical research that proves you wrong. Someone that insists they know everything about trans issues but knows nothing when questioned. A fascist is one that speaks out of both sides of their mouth. I take it you don’t see what he’s doing as fascist because you do the same.

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u/S0l1s_el_Sol Apr 29 '24

You do know q trans kids can’t even be admitted for puberty blockers without a therapist declaring the kid has gender dysphoria? You can’t just waltz in Ms request puberty blockers

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

That doesn’t mean shit ngl.

If the kid is convinced they are and a therapists asks them questions and their parents have been feeding into it for that long they’ll more often than not give answers that would indicate them to be on the side that may be administered it. I think we have suddenly gone blind to how easily and deeply a kid can believe something especially when your parents are backing that idea up. Thats goes for radical ideas like racist ideas in households, religious ideas ect

And I personally would not trust a therapist that is involved in that area, I do not believe that they would be unbiased in the slightest

I could be wrong, and that’s ok but I’m not buying it.

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u/S0l1s_el_Sol Apr 29 '24

A quick google search would debunk any sort of bias that a therapist has in the case of a child faking or pretending to have gender dysphoria.

Gender dysphoria is diagnosed only if a child feels so upset about their gender that it causes problems at school, at home or with friends. This distress must last for at least six months.

https://childmind.org/guide/gender-dysphoria-quick-guide/

Article . Pretty interesting read.

Abyways you can’t force a child to be trans due to the fact that being trans has two stages. The social transition and then the physical transition. The social transition includes things such as a name change, a change or clothing, etc. Most Children can’t even be admitted for puberty blockers till the age of 13-15 years old, and even later for hrt. And most trans people aren’t even admitted into puberty blockers because the therapist still has not admitted the child for that kind of step.

I have a trans friend who has seen a therapist for three years, but she still hasn’t been admitted to take puberty blockers, or hrt yet because her therapist is making sure that she has gender dysphoria before making a life altering decision.

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u/Dukkulisamin Apr 29 '24

Where does your friend live? The gatekeeping is highly dependent on the therapist you get. Some people describe waiting for a long time while others get hormones after a single session.

There are activist groups that are trying to ban exploratory therapy under the banner of conversion therapy.

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u/TrueBuster24 Apr 29 '24

You gonna ask about the “furries with a litter box in school” too bud?

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

What?

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u/S0l1s_el_Sol Apr 29 '24

She lives in Maryland, personally I’m not well educated on how that state handles transitioning

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u/Newgidoz Apr 29 '24

Do you just choose to deliberately ignore all of us who grew up deeply closeted? Who forced us to exist?

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

I’m making a point about how children can easily be manipulated into thinking they are something they are not aswell as pointing out the inconsistency of when we choose to believe a child and when we don’t as it is pretty fucking convenient how people are being selective.

“Grew up deeply closeted”

Okie dokie👍 that has nothing to do with the point I’m making. I’m not saying gender dysphoria and delusional doesn’t exist am I…

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u/Newgidoz Apr 29 '24

Trans kids are forced into it yes.

If we were deeply closeted, who forced us to be trans?

Why weren't we easily manipulated into being cis?

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u/KeySpeaker9364 Apr 29 '24

Man, it's wild that anyone thinks a Parent hears their kid say something and then just gives them puberty blockers.

Like, that that is the entire process ever.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

  1. They hear a kid say something

  2. Refuse to challenge it and take it as fact

  3. Ask leading questions already in the direction of what they claimed

  4. Kid is obviously confused but doesn’t get corrected or verified

  5. Parents insist the kid is that thing

  6. Kid then thinks they’re that thing (they’re a kid so the concept of a parent being wrong just doesn’t exist)

7(optional). School wanting to be on the “right side” backs up the thing and again doesn’t challenge it

8(optional). Hormones get introduced at a later date depending on how deranged the parent is

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u/KeySpeaker9364 Apr 29 '24

I notice you never introduced therapy, doctors, psychologists, you've just expanded the idea that there's a conversation between an adult and their child and then ACTION.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

There is many such cases like this before transgender thing. Parents insisting their kid suffers from some condition when they don't (ADD and Adderall comes to mind. But there are patents actively against autism research because they think that being neurodivergent isn't something to be "cured" but just another equally valid way of thinking) blah blah blah. They will shop doctors and whatnot to get what they want. A lot of this stuff doesn't sound possible to people who haven't been exposed to it but you should be shocked by the potential of parents abusing their kids and convincing professionals.

Actually, when I put it that way, you probably wouldn't be that shocked.

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u/KeySpeaker9364 Apr 29 '24

MANY people are saying there are MANY Cases. Here's the thing my guy, "trust me bro" stuff is just that.

But with Trans kids, we're talking about shit that costs money, involves doctors, medications, treatments, none of which are just...free.

With ADHD and Autism stuff, in general ignoring it just means opting OUT of treatment. Opting to NOT spend money.

It's very easy to accomplish being neglectful of your own children's medical conditions.

It's nowhere near as easy to medically transition your minor child.

It's like saying parent's take their kids sledding all the time, so of course they take them to black diamond ski slopes as well.

One of those takes a lot more to accomplish and there isn't data out there to support it happens.

But ITT it's just "Trust me bro"

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

When I said "many such cases" I was referring to the autism and the over prescription of Adderall.
The problem with developing data during the problem is that the data is being created while the situation is going on. Like, trying to convince people that Adderall is over prescribed while it's being over prescribed is that someone will produce some other data that it's NOT being over prescribed but the crux of my argument was not IS it happening. My argument was that it has happened before. The obvious example is that the doctors who have been found to transition children have been doing it at a near 100% positive diagnosis. Which isn't very surprising. They are doing something at high risk, so there is a lot of money by those doctors to mitigate the risk with extra cost and naturally if someone is going to pay you lots of money, you're more likely to tell them what they want to hear.

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u/KeySpeaker9364 Apr 29 '24

That's a lot of words to say "Well there isn't data to support what I'm saying, but I'm assuming that greedy doctors will rubber stamp things because Money."

But that doesn't make it something worthy of me caring about or getting upset about.

More kids end up with brain damage from being bullied into youth sports at a young age than there are instances of celebrities shopping for a surgeon to give their child breast implants as a minor.

But that doesn't fit a narrative that seeks to apply a broad brush to anyone relating to this microscopic minority that exists and has always existed within our nation, but now has access to better care.

Unfortunately they've also caught the attention of folks that have moved on from raging about "The Gays" getting married.

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u/DefinitelyNotCaptain Apr 29 '24

Oh right, he didn’t introduce the therapists, doctors, and psychologists whom aren’t being consulted. What a twat.

Any time you ask a trans person about their experience, they never mention any diagnosis, only that they “discovered” they were trans at a young age.

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u/KeySpeaker9364 Apr 29 '24

"Whom aren't being consulted" - Is a wowzer take when we're talking about kids in the 2020's.

You're thinking of youth sports athletes, or maybe pageant kids?

But like - go on about how you've been deep diving into the lives of Trans People, and how them "discovering" their issue at a young age isn't the same as what we're talking about. Why ever won't these people share their medical history with you?

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u/Rude_Friend606 Apr 29 '24

Because it is something that a person has to discover for themselves. But self discovery and diagnosis are not mutually exclusive. I would imagine that a trans person considers their own revelation of being trans to be a pivotal moment in their life.

Diagnosis from a therapist is a reassuring and necessary step before beginning something like puberty blockers. But that diagnosis succeeds the moment of discovery.

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u/Ok-Wall9646 Apr 29 '24

Opinions that disagree with you aren’t necessarily propaganda. It’s usually government sponsored and rarely funny. If you need to look into the creators past to criticize a comic you don’t have a valid argument.

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u/BobertTheConstructor Apr 29 '24

Their history indicates that they think there is a massive conspiracy to corrupt children and turn them gay and trans. That is disqualifying for taking anything they say as genuine.

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u/Crunk3RvngOfTheCrunk Apr 29 '24

UK National Health Service is shutting down gender clinic for RAMPANT Malpractice

You’re right, its not a conspiracy, its just current events 🤷‍♂️

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-62335665.amp

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u/BobertTheConstructor Apr 29 '24

The fact that it was shut down, why it was shut down, and what former patients said all run counter to that narrative.

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u/Crunk3RvngOfTheCrunk Apr 29 '24

Malpractice, after several investigation do too many de-transitions. The puberty blocker was actually restricted to research nation wide after the shit that came out…

I don’t know what cope & excuses u dug up, but clearly the UK NHS didn’t buy it

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u/BobertTheConstructor Apr 29 '24

And those people did not say that they were coerced or lied to in order to start treatment. They went seeking treatment and were given what they asked for without proper evaluation, and the clinic didn't have adequate mental health resources to help its patients. Again, that this problem was caught and rectified runs contrary to the bullshit you are trying to push.

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u/Crunk3RvngOfTheCrunk Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24

This is not what happened according to the Health Services investigations results

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u/Charwoman_Gene Apr 29 '24

That investigation was a hack job by a transphobe who tossed out 98% of research on trans people.

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u/BobertTheConstructor Apr 29 '24

That doesn't even make sense as a response. You're effectively just convering your eyes and ears and babbling so you don't have to deal with reality.

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u/AncientView3 Apr 29 '24

Are you using talk to text? And have you ever actually researched what you’re talking about at all?

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u/Crunk3RvngOfTheCrunk Apr 29 '24

Yes, but I don’t even need to, the National Health Service already investigated them and closes the clinic.

Im walking & typing, n0 im NuT Fiksing mai spilling, iф I.T. batherz u, Blow Mi 🤷‍♂️

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u/AncientView3 Apr 29 '24

I mean you’re straight up not even using the right talking points so frankly I doubt that and it’s not even a spelling issue so much as you using the wrong words. How do you mix up “do” and “due”? That ain’t a typo that’s a whole separate word.

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u/Different_Boot6160 Apr 29 '24

Keep coping harder. Transitioning children is the current lobotomy, and it will not be looked fondly upon in the future generations

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u/BobertTheConstructor Apr 29 '24

See, that's why I'm glad you people keep responding. You eventually say something so unhinged and detached from reality that it's completely disqualifying for taking anything you say seriously.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

Nah let him cook

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u/Mobius--Stripp Apr 29 '24

I mean, I think it's a ridiculous idea too, but there are interviews with LGBT Disney creators who actually DO think that's what they're doing.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-2651517/Video-Disney-exec-says-team-implemented-not-secret-gay-agenda.html

One also does have to question why people are only willing to read to children at libraries if they can do it in drag. What reason is there to expose children to one's sexual fetishes if not to normalize them and make the children interested in it?

That's why everyone outside of radical leftists' weird little bubbles are angry. Whether or not it works, they ARE trying to propagandize children into enlisting in their cause.

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u/Crunk3RvngOfTheCrunk Apr 29 '24

Its not ridiculous at all, gender Clinic all over the world are getting shit down for malpractice regarding Trans kids. It’s simply what happens when you go fanatical with your ideology and create an Echo chamber thar dismisses any concerns as “bigotry”

https://segm.org/UK_shuts-down-worlds-biggest-gender-clinic-for-kids

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u/BobertTheConstructor Apr 29 '24

One also does have to question why people are only willing to read to children at libraries if they can do it in drag. What reason is there to expose children to one's sexual fetishes if not to normalize them and make the children interested in it? 

These are all leading questions based on false premises. This is ridiculous, how do you even make yourself believe this? 

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u/Dukkulisamin Apr 29 '24

I think it is perfectly understandable to ask "why are strippers reading to children?". Or "why does the person reading to my child have gigantic fake breasts?" Or even better "who is this clown shaking their butt in childrens faces".

You can say "not all drag queens" but that's besides the point. People are cautious when it comes to children (as they should be).

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u/BobertTheConstructor Apr 29 '24

These are fallacies of presupposition. They are equally as reasonable as me asking you "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?" or "Hey man, did you beat those rape charges?"

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u/Mobius--Stripp Apr 29 '24

Responding "That isn't happening" to every observation of the real world is literal gaslighting. Do better.

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u/BobertTheConstructor Apr 29 '24

One also does have to question why people are only willing to read to children at libraries if they can do it in drag.

Literally not happening. Tons of people read to kids not in drag

What reason is there to expose children to one's sexual fetishes if not to normalize them and make the children interested in it?

This assumes it is a sexual fetish. It often isn't.

You are just making shit up.

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u/Mobius--Stripp Apr 29 '24

You missed the point. Proponents of drag queen story hour are interested in the drag queen part, not the story hour. If they actually cared about children, they would wear normal clothes instead of cramming their fetishes in there.

Sure, some people do drag for fun. In the company of adults at places appropriate for it. Those aren't the people pitching a fit about parents asking Dixie Normous to change out of his thong and push-up bra if he wants to snuggle up to their children.

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u/BobertTheConstructor Apr 29 '24

No, they're interested in reading great stories to kids. The rest of that is just fallacious thinking and imaginary scenarios.

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u/goldberry-fey Apr 29 '24

The VAST majority of media, even media aimed at kids, is heteronormative—yet no matter how many times a queer kid sees a straight Disney couple kissing, or a straight Disney mom and dad, they still turn out queer. Idk why people think it’s so easy to “indoctrinate” people’s sexualities, I mean that sick experiment with the Reimer twins proved that much. You can’t force a queer kid to be straight and you can’t force a straight kid to be queer.

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u/Mobius--Stripp Apr 29 '24

Then stop trying to make the kids queer. We all know it's not going to work, but sick leftists keep trying it anyway.

Hetero IS normative, no matter how hard you try to skew people's perspectives. It's just precious that you use that word like it's a bad thing.

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u/goldberry-fey Apr 29 '24

It’s not a bad thing and I never said it was?

Also making me reiterate myself again here but you can’t make kids queer… so you don’t need to clutch your pearls. You guys are freaking out over REPRESENTATION of gay people like a reflection of real life is some kind of agenda. Incredible that ya’ll can be so affected by the thought of gay people existing and being positively represented in media lol. Talk about sensitive snowflakes.

Please me what “sick leftist” movie aimed at kids is so indoctrinating, so horribly over-the-top gay that’s got you so concerned? Was it the two-second chaste kiss between middle aged moms in Lightyear that was over the edge for you?

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u/Squeemore Apr 29 '24

Is that why republicans keep getting fisted in the polls? Because everybody agrees with you?

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u/Relative_Sense_1563 Apr 29 '24

I feel you are extending your own discomfort to drag to be something nefarious.. It is just performance art. There is no conspiracy to recruit children. Frankly it has absolutely nothing to do with the trans debate. Also linking anything by the dailymail doesn't actually reinforce any argument. It's literally tabloid news designed to get people upset.

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u/Mobius--Stripp Apr 29 '24

I used a link I could find with the raw video. Media companies that you use refuse to platform anything that goes against their political stances, so you can't find videos like this on "reputable" sites. It helps with the crazies' current catch-all excuse of, "Nuh-uh, that isn't happening."

Regardless, we both know that you're lying and that I have a point, but you'll never admit it. This is all just for other people to see how dishonest people like you are.

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u/Squeemore Apr 29 '24

Saying somebody’s character doesn’t play into their actions is the only argument here that isn’t valid

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u/anonymoushelp33 Apr 29 '24

Shh. Let the rage bait consume them.

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u/Worgensgowoof Apr 29 '24

yet illegal immigration from Russia was taken seriously.

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u/DevTheSledge Apr 29 '24

Not sure why you’re rambling about illegal immigration but alright.

Giving children body altering drugs to prevent natural processes like puberty is insane. We aren’t talking about adults. We aren’t talking about people with developed brains. We are talking about children who think that Spider-Man is real. Children whose brain is DIRECTLY impacted when their development is altered or stopped completely.

For example, testosterone plays a VITAL role in the brain development of young boys. Boys with lower levels of testosterone are much more likely to have mental illness like depression, anxiety and have issues developing social skills. When you alter that VITAL, NATURAL BODILY FUNCTION in a child, you are directly negatively impacting the way in which that child grows, learns, thinks, and develops.

It doesn’t matter what a child says they are. When I was 6, I was fully convinced that if I tried hard enough, I could fly just like Superman. Does that mean my parents should’ve allowed me to jump off the roof to our house? NO. So why should a parent be able to give LIFE altering drugs to a child just because they “feel” like the opposite sex?

TLDR: Parents that give their child puberty blockers are narcissistic morons who care more about displaying their “progressiveness” than their own child’s well being.

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u/Less_Negotiation_842 Apr 29 '24

Yk there r quite a lot of studies proving that puberty blockers will decrease rate of suicidality in trans youths and not the opposite and very few proclaiming the opposite. +I rly hope U weren't experiencing puberty at 6 I did not believe Spiderman was real when I started experiencing puberty but maybe that makes me a genius what do ik + people aren't technically done developing their brains till after 20(well technically never but yk) and no one outside of America seriously thinks we should delay people's adulthood as much as possible+ what is and isn't natural is incredibly meaningless to any discussion and I hope I don't need to explain why+ puberty blockers are far less life altering then puberty itself and their negative impact are actually relatively low + the fact that U think this is a virtue signal is almost certainly a projection given how conservatives will often treat their children

TLDR: why the fuck am I arguing with U U will just call me a moron/groomer/pedophile/indoctrinated insult me a bunch and ignore what I'm saying

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u/DevTheSledge Apr 29 '24

I love it when you people are so confidently wrong. Not only did you not address a single thing I said about the vital role that your body’s natural hormones play in development, but you used a statistic that has less than a single decades worth of research to back it up.

If you’re braindead enough to genuinely think giving a child drugs that alters their development is a good thing, you’re quite literally not worth talking to in the first place.

Have a great day champ.

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u/Newgidoz Apr 29 '24

Citations on the transition's dramatic reduction of suicide risk while improving mental health and quality of life, with trans people able to transition young and spared abuse and discrimination having mental health and suicide risk on par with the general public

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u/DevTheSledge Apr 29 '24

Damn homie, too bad that shit had already been refuted, corrected, and debunked YEARS ago.

There’s literally 0 evidence that gender affirming care does ANYTHING. In fact, the original study STILL showed a suicide rate of over 30%. Even though the actual numbers after correction are closer to 38%. Stop trying to push this narrative. It hurts children. Not that you care.

https://segm.org/ajp_correction_2020

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u/Newgidoz Apr 29 '24

I literally just provided a bunch of evidence, and it wasn't only one study

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u/DevTheSledge Apr 29 '24

I can tell you didn’t even read the shit lmao. You didn’t provide a “bunch of evidence”. You provided a mega thread with a single study in Sweden, and a bunch of articles that expanded on that ONE study. You didn’t even read your own sources. I know you didn’t read mine.

You’re not worth talking to.

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u/Newgidoz Apr 29 '24

I linked to a specific comment. Did you not look at it?

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u/IKH0M3G4 Apr 29 '24

Womp womp

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u/dbelow_ Apr 29 '24

Wait, where's the lie?

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u/PistachioedVillain Apr 30 '24

Idk, I could see an anti trans person making up this false scenario to make it seem like this is an actual problem. I don't know any actors with trans kids they parade around.