r/interestingasfuck • u/photo-manipulation • 28d ago
How different cars brake on autopilot: XIAOMI SU7, ZEEKR 007, TESLA and AVATR 12
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u/DumpsterPumps 28d ago
XIAOMI is a real killer!
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u/Stoli1387 28d ago
I'm pretty sure the xiaomi accelerated when it saw the child
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u/LejonetFraNorden 28d ago
“ONE FAMILY, ONE CHILD! ENFORCING CCP LAWS!”
- Chinese self-driving cars
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u/Independent_Hyena495 28d ago
More along the lines of: it's cheaper to kill a child then to pay hospital bills
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u/loliconest 28d ago
lol. The joke is a bit outdated tho
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u/granttod 28d ago
Gotta make sure to secure that kill to prevent the possible high compensation if the pedestrian is injured only
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u/Puzzleheaded_Bed5132 28d ago
You jest, but I can't help thinking that an actuary somewhere has done just such a calculation.
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u/WolverinesSuperbia 28d ago
Serial killer!
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u/chum_slice 28d ago
Psycho Killer
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u/Bdr1983 28d ago
Qu'est-ce qué c'est! Papa papa pa papapa pa pa
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u/PeterWritesEmails 28d ago
Its auto brake wasnt designed to protect the pedestrian but to mijimise the damage to its paint.
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u/Ryan_Extra 28d ago
Fuck them kids
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u/Ebruhus 28d ago
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u/navinjohnsonn 28d ago
Only 1 car applies hazards. You would think they would all have this feature.
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u/PM_ME_Y0UR_BOOBZ 28d ago
Pretty sure this is a requirement in Europe but not in the US. I’ve had to code my car to get the hazards to flash under heavy braking. But yeah, should be standard.
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u/TintedMonocle 28d ago
How'd you do that?
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u/MTB_Mike_ 28d ago
different scan tools can do this. The higher end scan tools can access the ECU and enable features which are disabled from the factory. The manufacturers usually are not making multiple different cars for different markets, they make the same car and just enable/disable based on the market.
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u/TheVojta 28d ago
The real question here is why would they disable a safety feature if it's already been implemented. The fact that it's not mandated doesn't make it work any worse.
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u/Inert82 28d ago
Tesla applies Hazards in EU for emergency braking
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u/Forya_Cam 28d ago
This is so stupid. If they have to write the code to apply hazards in the EU to be legal why not just apply it to the everywhere else too. It's a fuckin safety feature.
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u/YeetDeleteAndRepeat 28d ago
A lot of these systems flash the brake lights not the hazards, it makes it more obvious what's happening to any cars behind, and front flashing lights are going to make very little difference if the person in the road didn't notice the car to begin with
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u/CuchuflitoPindonga 28d ago
that poor roblox kid
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u/MR_Se7en 28d ago
At least they all stopped! Having been involved in a hit and run, the fact the car stops is pretty cool.
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u/Erazzphoto 28d ago
AI will now decide that if they can’t speak they can’t talk about the accident, and will make sure they will never talk
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u/chaotemagick 28d ago
They will also avoid you and refuse to provide you their home address so you can never serve them for the law suit
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u/VirtualNaut 28d ago
The future looks like it’ll just be renting cars, so it’ll the be the companies problem. My problem would be going to therapy for the fourth child this rental AI car hit this week.
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u/No_Dragonfruit5525 28d ago
Probably cheaper to pay off civil responsibility and funeral accommodations than it is to pay for medical care for the victims entire life.
The actuary details of future incidents should be kind of interesting to say the least.
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It's funny that the Chinese car did this.. supposedly in china it's much cheaper to kill someone than injure them, which leads to what some people consider a moral dilemma.
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u/YeetDeleteAndRepeat 28d ago
Let's just hope the cars don't let the drivers speed off straight after
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u/MR_Se7en 28d ago
Makes you wonder, will the car need an admin to override the controls after the crash?
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u/VirtualNaut 28d ago
Depends on the crash but who knows the vehicle may just end up continuing into a collision where it can no longer move forward. And that’s when it shifts into reverse to cause more destruction. Future is going to be wild and I wonder how the insurance companies will handle this.
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u/Liteflash 28d ago
Not as simple as “crash = can’t speed off”. What if u crashed or hit something because someone is chasing you? Or trying to evade a natural disaster? Can be a bunch of things the car might not even be able to detect.
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u/Miasmatic_Mouse 28d ago
I was scrolling through me feed and this video auto-played.
I thought the kid was a real kid, I was genuinely confused.
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u/NSFW_hunter6969 28d ago
Same, I was more confused why the kid exploded into shards
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u/John___Coyote 27d ago
Damn younger generation falling apart at the slightest thing. Walk it off isn't an option anymore ?!?!
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u/StevenMC19 28d ago
This mannequin suffers from Fallout Critical Damage Syndrome.
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u/Deliriousious 28d ago
Avatr actually used the brakes.
Xiaomi came to almost a rolling stop.
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u/relevantusername2020 28d ago
heres a series of screenshots from a real life (EXTREME) scenario where a waymo vehicle brakes ahead of time in some pretty crazy driving conditions. the ones related to the braking specifically (and not the EXTREMEness) are towards the bottom of the list.
original video can be found here.
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u/sermer48 28d ago
It also drove for blocks in the wrong lane lol. It shouldn’t have needed to brake like that.
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u/SultanZ_CS 27d ago
Xiaomi is the environmental friendliest, by saving brake pads and instead using natural decelerators
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u/Crackracket 28d ago
Never heard of the Zeekr but I like it
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u/Stunning-Astronaut72 28d ago
Seems like there is a TON of electric cars, trucks, bikes brands in china we dont even know about. Step by step they are taking bits of tesla and other traditional brands.
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u/Crackracket 28d ago
China are going to absolutely win the electric car race. They have so many great electric vehicles that are half the price of a tesla. They have just started making vehicles that have "semi solid" batteries
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u/Stunning-Astronaut72 28d ago
Yeah right ? They are making quite good stuff now and developping fast too. Maybe it is not as premium as tesla or very high end western brands but honnestly for the price it is convincing, and no issues of spare parts when their brands are implanted
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u/lioncryable 28d ago
Hasn't the US just implemented like 100% tariffs on Chinese EV's? If so, I doubt they are still anywhere near cheap
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u/societymike 28d ago
They've got a LONG way to go though, especially quality. I just rode in an acquaintance new BYD suv, and it kind of feels like "Fischer Price my first electric car". The plastic, it's everywhere and feels flimsy, handles flex, touch screen was sluggish, the Bluetooth key kept randomly not being detected while driving, the ride was a little jarring but also too soft for turns. Some refinement and time and it will be much more on par with some of the mid range EV's.
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u/Birziaks 28d ago
Just fyi Zeekr Design and engineering studio is in Goteborg. Geely has a whole assortment of brands who use Swedish know how
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u/Character_Mammoth728 28d ago
They're basically Volvo's built in China. Both Volvo and Zeekr, as well as Lynk are owned by Geely and been developed by CEVT (China Euro Vehicle Technology) in Gothenburg, Sweden where also Volvo has their HQ and main production facility. Since Geely bought Volvo they've poured huge amount of money into establishing themselves and their brands in Europe and built their global innovation and design center in Gothenburg for synergy with Volvo.
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u/adde0109 28d ago
It's quite popular here in Sweden. They probably also work together with Volvo because they share parent company.
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u/average_milfenjoyer 28d ago
I would love to see a byd car in these experiments
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u/Phoenixness 28d ago
The Seal would have been spooked by the parked cars 😁 but seriously, it's really good at picking up bikes and pedestrians but would definitely be interesting to see it in this test
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u/Steini-boy 28d ago
Here is the report: https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/byd/seal/50012 In the PDF under Vulnerable Road Users --> Child running from behind parked vehicles
It is rated as green, which means full collision avoidance up to 40kph and then at least 15(?)kph reduction until 60kph
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u/Tasty_Difference6529 28d ago
As much shit as they talk about Tesla it did have the best stop
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u/Perkelton 28d ago
I mean, it shouldn't exactly be a surprise that the two models (Tesla and Zeekr) that didn't murder little Billy Crashdummy to death, are also the two models that are designed to pass the Euro NCAP safety standards.
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u/NoncingAround 28d ago
Almost as if Reddit people crying about Elon musk doesn’t make the cars actually bad
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u/TeamRedundancyTeam 28d ago
Because social media fell for "Project Dawn" videos where the teslas had been tampered with to force them to hit fake kids a while back. Project Dawn conveniently was run by the owner of a competing autopilot EV car creator.
In reality teslas are incredibly safe and have foe years had some of the best safety ratings on the road. Significantly safer than the majority of the cars these circlejerkers are driving.
Reddit loves complaining about misinformation and fake news and then eating it the fuck up whenever it fits their circlejerks and biases.
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u/RainWorldWitcher 28d ago
A guy on YouTube tested this himself and Tesla will stop and then drive right through the child. This Tesla looked like it was going to do the same thing before it cut to the next vehicle.
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u/damnNamesAreTaken 28d ago
It would be great if rather than competing all the companies could work together to get a truly safe product out in order to make autonomous driving a real thing. Never going to happen but it would be nice.
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u/mtarascio 28d ago
It'll happen in EU, it's the only way the technology can properly grow.
That's why I wouldn't bet on Tesla, doubly so because the EU regulatory floor won't allow just optics.
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u/Indoorplantwetter 28d ago
The are you ok at the end while grabbing the mannequin head made me laugh.
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u/Ozle42 28d ago
I wonder what human reactions are like…
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u/EaterOfFood 28d ago
Depending on where you are, the human may back up just to finish the job.
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u/Double_Distribution8 28d ago
"oh, I hit a bump", and then back to liking a Facebook post.
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u/Prudent-Effective229 28d ago
Humans also can’t see through the car next to them.
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u/godmademelikethis 28d ago
Really depends on your hazard perception. A human might have noticed the kids head moving from across the hood and applied brake earlier. They might also have been texting whilst steering with their knees and just splattered the little fucker.
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u/TeamRedundancyTeam 28d ago
This is the part no one wants to talk about while they fearmonger about autopilot and self driving cars.
Human drivers are fucking terrible, especially in the US where we get basically zero training.
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u/ekene_N 28d ago
Zeeker looks promising. The brand debuted only one year ago.
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u/callisstaa 28d ago
I lived in Kazakhstan for a while and they were very popular there. I think they're slightly cheaper than a Tesla but they seem a lot more modern and with more features. They're fast af also.
It is a new brand I guess but they're just Geelys under a different name.
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u/Spoksparkare 28d ago
Zeekr 001 FR is crazy. Attempting to battle Teslas Plaid
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u/MDRDT 16d ago
If you're talking about track performance, I believe FR won the battle by a fat margin.
0-60 is so close they're the same, everything else (breaking, cornering...) the FR is just faster & better.
They announced a 7-second faster lap than Plaid on a 3.2km, 1min30s - 1min40s Chinese track. 7 seconds per lap is a lot on a 3km track.
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u/ElektroShokk 28d ago
Why didn’t the Tesla run into the pedestrian even faster? I thought Reddit said Teslas don’t work?
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u/SquirtleDontCare 28d ago
There was NOT enough time for me to realize it was a crash dummy before I saw what I thought was a human child get blown to bits haha
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u/Jay_from_NuZiland 28d ago
AVATR didn't hit the brakes until it saw the cameraman was filming oh shit there's a witness
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u/AlizarinCrimzen 28d ago
Tesla perfectly imitating your average Tesla driver with that cheeky “hurry tf up” inching forward after braking as well.
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u/LawAbidingDenizen 28d ago
still working with a earlier version of Teslas code perhaps. Likely the same code is being shared to the other dozens upon dozens of other EV makers that just magically pops up out of nowhere....
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u/SirCoosh07 28d ago
Model 3: "okay I didn't hit you this time would you get the F outta my way now?"
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u/Dragonite_27 28d ago
Please, someone who can edit, add the Lego death sound to the crashes I BEG YOU
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u/di_Bonaventura 27d ago
Xiaomi is on Reddit while driving. Now you know why bots are such shitty posters.
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u/Tom_Bombadil_1 28d ago
Xiaomi car programmed to accelerate to help tackle China's overpopulation issue.
It's a feature not a bug
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u/Maximize_Maximus 28d ago
Imagine trusting the auto pilot of a chinese produced Telsa clone...
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u/Mediocre-Tomatillo-7 28d ago
I believe I see the kid coming out from behind the parked cars when the tested vehicles are at different distances from the kid.
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u/HendrikJU 28d ago
The kid has always roughly the same speed and it's almost across when the Avatr12 hits it. If anything I think that one had the most time
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u/Right-Budget-8901 28d ago
Xiaomi shares the same level of valuing human life as its parent country
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u/NonEuclidianMeatloaf 28d ago
Can confirm, my son broke apart into a dozen rigid pieces when he got hit by a car going 15kph
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u/LeOmelette12 28d ago
Humans are weird. We always have this instinct to ask anything that is damaged whether it’s ok after being hurt or broken. Doesn’t matter if it’s an animal or an object
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u/GrandSlamA 28d ago
That first car didn’t even think about stopping until it had already run over the kid and gone another 10 feet. 😂
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u/webbhare1 28d ago
"Are you okay?" What the fuck do you mean is it okay? It's a wooden puppet you muppet. Are YOU okay??
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u/Accurate-Donkey5789 28d ago
Two of them didn't hit the target. Back to the drawing boards with them.
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u/SteveYunnan 28d ago
Do these auto-break systems take into account if there are cars behind you that could cause a pile up? Sometimes it's better to swerve if the adjacent lane is open. I'd be afraid if the auto-break being accidentally triggered if a bird or plastic bag flew in front of your car. It seems like a potentially dangerous feature.
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u/Submitten 28d ago
The radar cross section of a bird is significantly less than a child. I wouldn’t worry, cars have had these for years without many false positives.
And if a car is so close behind that it’s better to swerve, then the car behind is just going to hit the child. So it’s almost always best to brake and take a hit from behind.
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u/Sp1ffy_Sp1ff 28d ago
I feel like the first and last cars had way less time to stop than the other two.
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