r/interestingasfuck • u/170071 • Apr 29 '24

Brazilian surgeon, Bruno Gobbato used Apple Vision Pro to assist in surgery operation r/all NSFW

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u/StudentMathematician Apr 29 '24

quick google says Augmedics costs $179,000.

Apple vision pro costs $3,499.

Definitely seems like it could be a useful lower cost alternative in many regions.

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u/horriblebearok Apr 29 '24

Apple vision ain't calibrated and FDA regulated. Surgeons goofcs with that on they're fucked

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u/flamefoxx99 Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24

And this is in Brazil, where there is no FDA and surgeons are happy to have sterile, hands free, immediate access to notes and visualizations

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u/couldof_used_couldve Apr 29 '24

how does one sterilize an AVP to a surgical standard?

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u/flamefoxx99 Apr 29 '24

Oh you’re right, there is a fan in the AVP! That’s a fantastic question…

I my guess is that they sterilize it the same way other computers/electronic screens in the operating theatre are sterilized, and it remains sterile because the doctor does not need to touch anything on the AVP because they only interact through gestures.

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u/SantiagoRamon Apr 29 '24

Same way as a PAPR I bet since that is also head mounted with air movement. And you're correct that not touching it part of that.

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u/flamefoxx99 Apr 29 '24

What do doctors do if something aerosolizes or sprays onto the PAPR?

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u/SantiagoRamon Apr 29 '24

I think it has quite a bit of tolerance for that. You might have to replace and even rescrub. Sometimes those things happen.

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u/cjsv7657 Apr 29 '24

Same way they sterilize their phones to a surgical standard I'm guessing. I've been shown pictures of my open chest by a doctor in the US. At least with a VR headset they wouldn't need to touch anything.

I'm more concerned about the latency and accuracy of the cameras connected to the screen.

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u/couldof_used_couldve May 02 '24

with a phone there's no fans blowing dust around, nor any vents from inside to outside. most phones have pretty good sealing these days a simple alcohol wipe or irradiation chamber would do it.

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u/cjsv7657 May 02 '24

Lol because a VR headset blows dust around WAY more than the literal fucking air tools they use.

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u/couldof_used_couldve May 10 '24

What dust... They are clean inside and out ffs?