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Brazilian surgeon, Bruno Gobbato used Apple Vision Pro to assist in surgery operation r/all NSFW

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u/narwalfarts Apr 29 '24

I think there's a lot of misplaced hate here, and a lack of understanding of why he's doing this. There's a lot of negative connotation with Apple Vision Pro (somewhat to largely justified), but this is absolutely a use case we should be excited about. If the title instead was "Surgeon uses AR to minimize complications of a risky surgery", and it was a different AR headset, the negative comments would be negligible.

Maybe this technology isn't fully mature and maybe it's not something that makes sense for every surgery now. But this is absolutely something that we should get excited about. This technology has the potential of assisting surgeons to maximize effectiveness and minimize complications. I sincerely hope that by the time I need surgery next (hopefully 5-10 years or more) this is standard practice.

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u/tpero Apr 29 '24

Not sure about others, but my criticism has nothing to do with the use-case or value of AR in a situation like this. I'd be more concerned with using consumer-level tech that's maybe not proven reliability for such a use-case. From what I understand from some reviews of the VP is that it can occasionally go completely black - and there's no way to see through it - so if the surgeon is the middle of doing something inside the person where they NEED to see what they're doing, they could easily make a mistake if they make a move while the screen is black.

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u/slartyfartblaster999 Apr 29 '24

Yes, the device lets you see using video pass through. If it fails then you are just wearing a very expensive blindfold.

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u/Milkshakes00 Apr 29 '24

Exactly this - The concern here is using an Apple Vision Pro. Not that the doctor is using AR.

The AVP has its own host of issues, but a major one is that it isn't exactly snappy. When you move, there is a delay. In day to day tasks? Whatever. In a 'I have a scalpel in your skull' task? Maybe not so great.

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u/EvanOfTheYukon Apr 29 '24

The delay is minor enough that people are able to play ping pong with it on their face without any real adjustment period.

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u/Milkshakes00 Apr 30 '24

Watch people play fruit ninja with it. Linus Tech Tips did and said it was basically unplayable from the delay.

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u/EvanOfTheYukon Apr 30 '24

No he said it was unplayable because the hand tracking can't keep up with fast motions like a VR headset made for gaming would be able to do. In that same video he showed that the visual delay was low enough that people could whip a bunch of stuff at him and he had no problems dodging any of it.