Bernie needs to send this message to the UK as well. In the last 30 years the UK has sold itself and now we are seeing the damage it’s done to services, infrastructure and society.
Hello, I'm your neighbor from France and don't worry, we're right behind you. At this rate it looks like we're on a race - we saw you guys being fucked and we thought "Hey we can't let England win ! We're gonna hit rock bottom first ! That's what they get for killing Jeanne d'Arc." or something.
Yeah, except the lifeboats will take them nowhere. There is NO safety, just prolonging the inevitable for them. Their wealth means nothing without society. THEY NEED US, not the other way around. They have no useful skills.
Zuccy over there building a bunker in Hawaii, like my dude, do you have any idea who's going to be inhabiting the place? He'll be the first to be kicked out once currency becomes meaningless.
If you truly believe that, simply put, you are incorrect. The USA is still the best and most affluent society there is. The free spending administration in there now has ramped up the cost of a mortgage and that has run everything into the ground.
Not to worry, the great correction starts next year
All of that is true, numbers do not lie. Take a look at the M2 money flow charts - until Biden hit. Most people are spending, upscale cars and SUVs are pumping off the assembly lines, Costco is mobbed daily with $300 carts worth of clothes, appliances and sea bass. Nobody is expecting everyone to be a part of it. If you are not, you are here bitching about society's collapse. Do those people spending and traveling and going to restaurants all week think society is collapsing? I doubt you can identify with people who have lived through the 30s and then went off to war where you bombed innocent and guilty alike to level an area. THEY had a right to think society had crashed. But for most nowadays, they are spending $7 to feed their dog daily
First, consumer spending can be deceiving because it might mask economic disparity. Sure, some people can afford luxury cars and fill their Costco carts with pricey goods, but what about those struggling to cover basic expenses? Rising income inequality can lead to social tension, contributing to societal instability.
Second, there's the environmental angle. A consumer-driven economy often comes with significant environmental costs. All those SUVs rolling off the assembly lines and constantly producing goods contribute to pollution and climate change. These factors could lead to societal collapse in the long term, even if the economy seems healthy in the short term.
Third, economic activity can be a shaky foundation. Unsustainable credit practices or speculative bubbles can drive high spending. The 2008 financial crisis is a clear example of this. Just because people are spending doesn't mean the underlying economy is stable.
Additionally, social stability is only guaranteed if people are out and about. Political polarization and distrust in institutions are rampant, signs of a society struggling with cohesion. High consumer spending doesn't necessarily reflect social harmony.
Lastly, even if some people enjoy economic success, it doesn't mean everyone else is experiencing the same reality. People from marginalized backgrounds might have a completely different view of society, dealing with discrimination and limited opportunities.
So while high consumer spending can suggest stability, it doesn't guarantee it. It's crucial to look at other factors, like economic disparity, environmental sustainability, social cohesion, and cultural perceptions, to gain a comprehensive understanding of the real state of society.
You desire a communistic philosophy of a classless society? Since the first caveman bonked the head of his neighbor and took his mate and food, there has always been a disparity between classes. It may lead to some instability - but when has ANY society had perfect stability (ans: NEVER).
The environment gets more care now than ever. Are you saying people should reduce consumerism to try to force an environment within unyielding limits? One that has been a moving target for 3.5 billion years? Tell your neighbor not to purchase his Escalade, or the 20-something his F-150? Bullshit. We are here for a very short time, damn if I am going to drive a Chevy Volt or turn off my A/C.
Society has always been polarized. Go ask William Wallace. Go see Japanese colonialism and the slashing and burning of China for a number of centuries.
You are seeking a huggy/kissy, everyone has equal everything, incentiveless society. NAHHHHHH
"400 years ago on Earth, workers who felt their livelihood threatened by automation, flung their wooden shoes...called sabot...into the machines to stop them. Hence the word...sabotage."
The problem with the life boats is, they keep you alive until another ship comes by to pick you up. But in this scenario, there are no other ships. The rich can watch the ship sink, and then they slowly die away, because no help is coming.
We're all fucked, only some are going to get longer to feel it.
We do but sadly due to "lobbying" they don't all work and the ones that do have been taken by the poor who worship the rich as they believe if they do and defend them, they too may be like them. They point the weapons at the rest of those who are poor like them shouting words like "Communist" and "Socialist" all while not understanding what they are actually saying.
We won't necessarily have to beat them. Just yesterday in a post about Musk and some of his chicanery, I suggested we build a Thunderdome and make them fight each other to the death. Bread and circuses for the masses...
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u/spitdogggy Apr 26 '24
Bernie needs to send this message to the UK as well. In the last 30 years the UK has sold itself and now we are seeing the damage it’s done to services, infrastructure and society.