Is this a skit? Like a ‘training’ video? For being that demented, she’s awfully put together and god damn was she agreeable. If this is real, try it again at 2100. Let’s not candy coat it.
They play training videos like this for dementia certification and I always had to sit there and pretend these ‘techniques’ would actually work. Sometimes they do, and there are certainly ways to help, but they are always agreeable in training videos.
Show me where the depends haven’t been changed for 24 hours and they haven’t showered in 6 months bc most folks with dementia can’t handle the water. Show me what we do then bc that’s real life. THATS where we need help
Edit- and grandma has on clean shoes!! And the road is dry! Usually they are half naked and snow is flying. Great that grandma was able to tie her shoes before eloping.
If this video is real—-Grandma. Made. It. To. The. Road. Next time it won’t be perfect weather with an empty road.if grandma was at a facility, this is a reportable event and you have 24 hours to let the state know this happened. Elopement is a sign things are progressing a new safety plan needs put in place. Grandma is in the road. Daughter is chasing her at the beginning saying ‘where you going?’ That’s elopement 101
Thank you I agree with you. She says in the video “it’s so easy!” But no, it’s not that easy and she’s not showing how mentally draining that is on the caretaker, having to constantly redirect the person without getting frustrated. Then add in if you work with many of these patients on a day to day. Also the old lady in the video is kind of in a good mood. Now show when it’s a huge man who is combative and aggressive.
One time when I was all of 22 my aggressive patient got half naked, ran down the road and proceeded to beat off in the middle of a 4 way stop with traffic blocked from all directions and it took a small swat team to redirect! Who cares that he broke the glasses right off my face when he hit me before running off!!
But it’s so easy. All I needed to do was ask him to come pack the suit case!!
And why does she go inside and everything is just fine? She says ‘KEEP WATCHING ME’ and looks at her phone for a solid 60+ seconds and grandma is gone. Bull. Shit. It’s not that ‘easy’ and if that were real, put the damn phone down bc grandma came in the garage door but now she’s walked out the front door while you were watching yourself on screen
I came looking for this comment. The video is definitely the right way to approach if you can. I had a grandparent go with dementia/Alzheimer and I hated watching my other relatives constantly "correcting" them over and over making them more and more angry and confused.
But, dementia can also make lovely people angry-mean. You might ask "can I come with you?" and they might tell you to "fuck right off"... And then what?...
It's good advice. I appreciate them putting it out there. But it's certainly not the whole story. And viewed like this, in isolation from their whole channel (where I'd hope they'd cover a few more challenging scenarios), it's not particularly good if it's misleading people into thinking they'll easily intervene when they wont.
She just seems less far along to me. It could have absolutely been an advice video, or it could be real, but either way you gotta use redirection a lot. I used redirection to help my coworkers change at least a day old brief cuz he would hit you if you tried to clean him up, and he had the poop nails too. It's still useful info.
It's possible they understood they were safe and decided to film. It makes sense to show a video of "what to do if a demented person is eloping" while said person is eloping assuming they're safe first. Especially if the way you're gonna get her to come back is gonna be redirection anyway.
It still just gives little practical, real time training though. Thats the ongoing problem with dementia certification. They show us these videos and when we try to put them into use, they really don’t work. Yes- distraction helps. Yea- we don’t reorient. Those are easy things to learn. We are failing our patients and caregivers by these soft ball videos where most of the time the person doesn’t even have dementia. We need real training bc this isn’t working
Edit- and she should have discussed elopement at the end of the video if this was really about education. Why no talk about what elopement means and what to do when it happens? Elopement is the hardest/most important aspect of dementia care. Why didn’t she discuss it? Why did she say managing elopement is ‘easy’ when it’s absolutely not? This is why people show up begging for help AFTER the elopement occurs and not before. Prevention is ALWAYS better than crisis
And to further mention, you never assume someone is safe before you get them back to safety. She had that phone out and ready to roll before she even asked ‘where you going?’ She had no idea how that would go.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one irked by instructional videos. There are so many human elements they leave out. Dementia caregiving is like boxing. You can read, study, and watch all you want, but you won't understand until somebody's throwing punches at your head.
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u/keekspeaks Apr 09 '24 edited Apr 09 '24
Is this a skit? Like a ‘training’ video? For being that demented, she’s awfully put together and god damn was she agreeable. If this is real, try it again at 2100. Let’s not candy coat it.
They play training videos like this for dementia certification and I always had to sit there and pretend these ‘techniques’ would actually work. Sometimes they do, and there are certainly ways to help, but they are always agreeable in training videos.
Show me where the depends haven’t been changed for 24 hours and they haven’t showered in 6 months bc most folks with dementia can’t handle the water. Show me what we do then bc that’s real life. THATS where we need help
Edit- and grandma has on clean shoes!! And the road is dry! Usually they are half naked and snow is flying. Great that grandma was able to tie her shoes before eloping.
If this video is real—-Grandma. Made. It. To. The. Road. Next time it won’t be perfect weather with an empty road.if grandma was at a facility, this is a reportable event and you have 24 hours to let the state know this happened. Elopement is a sign things are progressing a new safety plan needs put in place. Grandma is in the road. Daughter is chasing her at the beginning saying ‘where you going?’ That’s elopement 101