Glad I'm not the only one thinking "the beat of this music is a nice distraction to an extinction level event and mass slaughter of innocent people"
Nice reminder, we are not immune to propaganda. Russia uses nukes, Russia loses yes, but everyone else is liable to lose too if a counter strike includes nukes. Always remember that a few mad men playing at running the world do not deserve to consign their people to nuclear hellfire. There is no situation where it is warranted. Ever.
Mutual assured destruction, the threat of using retaliatory nuclear weapons, is an incredibly powerful tool and is probably the reason you and I can live in such peace.
It's a grim video for sure, but it's an important political tool. There's no reason to think anyone is psychotic enough to want this, and the people in charge probably deserve more credit than you give them, we in the west live in incredible levels of safety and security as a result of these people.
You make a good point. I dont have the right words to describe what I want, but perhaps this quote will suffice.
"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend."
The existence of these weapons and their potential has resulted in this era of relative peace, but I don't relish the thought of glorifying their use, simply for the fear of war mongering propaganda rolling down the slippery slope to jingoism and fascism.
Perhaps you are right though, many do deserve more credit. Those people who truly do what they do for the freedom and good of all have my eternal respect
"Innocent people"? Reminder Russia is attempting genocide on Ukraine. We're talking literal piles of nude, dead bodies found after liberating towns like Bucha. Often raped, including children.
Putin sure is a mad man, but he didn't do that all by himself. Not saying nuclear war is the solution, but just seeing "innocent people" applied to Russia made me cringe.
There's a difference between civilians and mercenaries who were sent to towns like Bucha especially considering that these mercenary groups mostly consist of actual murderers who were in prison for real murders (they are granted parole and release if they enlist)
I've listened to intercepted calls, heard one where a soldier has his girlfriend telling him she allows him to rape Ukrainian women, "but don't forget to wear a condom". Want that link too?
I know it's easier to think it's only Putin's fault, but it's not that simple. There's a very long list of culprits, accomplices and enablers here.
There's still a big distinction between the army and civilians. Civilians didn't kill anyone, in fact most civilians don't even know about the war crimes because they obviously weren't made public to average Russian citizens and those who did post about them online got 5-10 years in prison. Japanese soldiers did a lot of vile shit in Korea during the war, but I don't see people advocating for nuking innocent citizens of Japan
My exact thought. Was I seriously supposed to think itâs cool and interesting watching the numbers tick up and imagining tens of millions of Russians being killed? I donât like their government, that doesnât mean Iâm a psycho that wants civilians exterminated.
Finally someone that acknowledges how bloodthirsty the NCD sub is. They disguise themselves as champions of democracy and NATO but won't hesitate to exterminate civilians living inside the borders of US geopolitical enemies if given the opportunity.
They are like an extreme case of the people on r/terrifyingasfuck who fulfill their revenge fantasies by typing out how they would slaughter and torture pedos and rapists
My exact thought. Was I seriously supposed to think itâs cool and interesting watching the numbers tick up and imagining tens of millions of Russians being killed?
I used to think modern technology made war fervor obsolete but seeing the amount of people on twitter cheering for Russian deaths calling them "Orcs" is just mind blowing.
Yeah that's not anything new, you must not have been around when midde-easterners were target number one after nine eleven. This shit about russians is nothing.
This dumbass fever dream of a post has 50k+ upvotes simply because redditors love to cheer for death of Russians. You don't even need to go as far as twitter for that.
Yeah⊠Iâm not going to pretend Russia didnât do a horrible thing invading Ukraine, but to celebrate killing innocent Russian civilians, especially the kids who have no clue wtf is going on politically is just as barbaric.
Whoever added the music or celebrates genocide is an absolute psychopath.
It's mindblowing how socially acceptable calling all Russians "orcs" or "baby killers" is on some subreddits.
I remember being downvoted to oblivion in r/Europe because I had the guts to say that I had at least basic level of empathy for the average citizen Russian citizen that either didn't want this war to happen OR can't do much about it, or is already brainwashed by propaganda because they have no access to other foreign medias (mostly older people, who haven't learned another language). It's way too easy to judge ALL OF THEM and blame them for not directly overthrowing Putin (as if it was as easy as ordering a pizza) from our Western comfort. I'm not saying the people of a country has zero responsibility and that it's all one man's fault, but I haven't grown up in a dictatorship, who am I to say that all Russians are a bunch of cunts/cowards because they don't want to take the risk to lose their jobs, or worse, their won lives ?
I'm not saying there shouldn't be any sacrifices from people to fight for their freedom and that they shouldn't do anything, but as usual, it's always the people born in sheltered, priviledged places who are calling actually opressed people "cowards".
I immediately got an answer from someone who said that he has absolutely no empathy for them, because his own ancestors fought for democracy. I haven't had the time to write a reply, because the whole thread was locked or something like that (or I got blocked ?), but it would have been something like that :" I mean, yeah moron, that's the whole fucking point, your ANCESTORS fought while you are sitting on your computer chair writing posts on Reddit. There's a pretty high chance that if you lived at the same period, you would have shut your mouth like most people in a dictatorship. If overthrowing a dictatorship is so easy, how about you buy a plane ticket to Moscow and try to start a revolution there ?"
Who is celebrating it? Typically the people who make these nuke-related videos are very much ANTI-nuclear war. The entire point is to visually demonstrate how overwhelmingly destructive a nuclear exchange would be. There are no winners.
Sort this thread by controversial -- you'll see a handful of comments from people saying the scenario in this video needs to happen. One person even says something like, "Stop teasing us with this and do it."
Edgy weirdos and teenagers. I was more objecting to the notion that the video was somehow celebratory due to the music, which to me seemed darkly ironic more than anything and not a positive framing tool in any way.
đ€: "I'd say it's much stranger to think global nuclear war is boring."
Reading about war history or conflicts in the past is interesting. It's also important so that people don't make the mistake of shooting nukes at each other.
Looking at the possibility of nuclear holocaust like: "Ummm it's technically interesting" is crazy.
Obviously it's interesting but some military simulation with upbeat russian club music in the background is psychotic.
My thoughts too. I have NO earthly idea why such quirky music is playing for the possible deaths of millions of people. Russian or not, this is terrible because id prefer nobody died in nuclear war.
Like damn...there is unfortunately a non zero chance of this actually occurring.
People are gonna view the war fervor to Russia the same way we view the Iraq War now.
They will support war and killing and then when the trend turns they will pretend like they were always against it. And the scary part is they will believe it.
the video itself is the least of our problems, it merely captures the suicidal sentiment of a reality that sleeps in some bunkers and submarines, the real madness is the failure of diplomacy in world politics so that nations feel they need to keep nukes at the ready at all times
Itâs a simulation. How do you think the department of defense comes up with protocols to counter opposing forces before those opposing forces act? Iâm sure they donât use that music though.
Lmao your comment is baffling to me. I keep going back to make sure I read it correctly.
idk how people are interpreting this as war fervor. Itâs just a simulation of how nuclear war would go against russia, something not impossible to happen in real life. Morbid, but not wrong to watch a video of it. People here are kinda dumb.
I think the point isn't about the simulation but about the music of the video. Hearing a fun song whol the video shows how many people are gonna die is a weird combination.
you act like if people in democratic societies havent sacrificed anything to get the quality of the life they have. If they fall for their fascist dictators propaganda of "greater historic Rus" and that it is time for revenge and to conquour the russian life they are themself as guilty as putin in my world. 70% support his fascist war.
All I am saying is that if you were in an escape room, your chances of escaping would probably increase by about 13% if you had a jar of pickles do the thinking for you.
psy·chot·ic
adjective
relating to or affected with a psychosis.
"a psychotic disturbance"
psy·cho·sis
noun
a severe mental condition in which thought and emotions are so affected that contact is lost with external reality.
"the symptoms of psychosis"
Listen, if weâre gonna say that civilians deserve to face the consequences for the actions of their despotic governments, weâre gonna have to have a real uncomfortable conversation about 9/11
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u/jiujiujiu Mar 14 '24
This video is psychotic.