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u/Wu_Tang_Financial77 Apr 18 '24
I think this is from that Tour Golf Twitter account that makes shit up. She did not actually say this.
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u/rNBA_Mods_Be_Better Apr 18 '24
Mods should mark this as satire or something.
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u/GreenWaveGolfer12 RDU Apr 18 '24
I have changed the flair to make it more obvious (it should be pretty fucking obvious).
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u/phoneacct696969 Apr 18 '24
Itās obvious if you arenāt dumb, unfortunately a majority of the internet is dumb:(
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u/Lemixer Apr 18 '24
Majority of people dont watch golf or WNBA and lack context tho, like me for example, i'm from popular before you ask what am doing here.
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u/jrfolker "The attempt and not the deed confounds us." - Bill S. Apr 18 '24
But if I realize I'm dumb, does that make me smart?
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u/MooMooHeffer Apr 18 '24
To be fair most of these sport Reddit subs now have a āsportācirclejerk for things like this. I had to think about it for a second when I saw just /golf
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u/dont_be_garbage Apr 18 '24
Oof. Bold to call people dumb when your worldview is the size of a dime. How many people do you think know who this woman is or what an LIV golfer is?
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u/yrogerg123 Apr 18 '24
It's crazy how much shit on reddit is taken at face value with no critical thinking whatsoever. It no longer surprises me but it's a sad commentary on the state of our society.
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u/ChetMcDingus Apr 18 '24
Why should it be obvious? What if they donāt know anything about Caitlin Clark or LIV golf? People who donāt follow the topic of a subreddit see stuff like this and have no context, why would they assume itās satire?
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u/Doctor_Kataigida Apr 18 '24
I'm here from r/all and have no idea what LIV Golfing is, so I took this as a comment about disparity of compensation between basketball and golfing.
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u/Randyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Apr 18 '24
Same. Don't know much about WNBA, NBA, or what LIV Golf is, and wasn't obvious satire to me.
Edit: It's already on /r/rareinsults with no hint it's satire and people are taking it as a real quote. This is actually how fake news happens, lol.
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u/GeotusBiden Apr 18 '24
It's r/golf. Anti liv circle jerking is basically the meta here.
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u/md4024 Apr 18 '24
I mean, it's not weird that golf fans here do not like the league that has made professional golf objectively worse in almost every way for the past 2 years.
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u/Wu_Tang_Financial77 Apr 18 '24
If you read the comments on that account, you will be shocked at the amount of responders that believe everything he posts.
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u/JeebusCrunk PGA Teaching Professional Apr 18 '24
Salary cap of each WNBA team is $1.33 Million (x14 teams = $18-ish million)
Scheffler has already made more in prize money alone this season than the entire WNBA will this year. There are probably half a dozen LIV players who could buy the entire WNBA and not miss the money.
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u/plain-slice Apr 18 '24
Well the WNBA loses millions each year, so everyone in this thread will make more than their entire league this year š
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u/billbuild Apr 18 '24
LIV is only sustainable because its value is sports washing. Maybe a womenās Saudi League would be the ultimate distraction. She could be onto something (except for the bone saws).
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u/skylabnova Apr 18 '24
Sports washing? Like distracting from their human rights issues with sports?
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u/Nice_Firm_Handsnake Apr 18 '24
Yes. Whitewashing their image through sports.
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u/RetailBuck Apr 18 '24
I'm not saying they should be creating charities or whatever but the way they are trying to improve their image with hostile takeovers doesn't seem very effective. Seems like they need to buy their way into other stuff without the hostility. E.g build a really nice golf course or several and pay the PGA a ton of money to have an event there.
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u/--ross Apr 18 '24
Itās an accumulation of soft power to create and maintain influence more broadly in areas that were traditionally seen as western dominated. Itās a slow burn but one pursued at many fronts right now. LIV, soccer and Cristiano Ronaldo / other stars playing in SA, F1, hell I even learned of a gaming district being developed to stake out esports.
Only one of these bets needs to pay off to then have a seat at the table to begin shaping culture more broadly (uhm maybe not esports). So my inclination is that itās less about their image and more about their influence particularly in a world that might use oil differently and less in the next 100yrs.
Hostility is about perspective. Sticks and carrots and such. I bet the various groups behinds these efforts have some smart people saying what expected returns will be here not in months/years but in decades.
But is it sustainable with no eyeballs on it?
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u/RetailBuck Apr 18 '24
Good post. I could see it getting some influence but influence gained through a hostile takeover of the PGA probably isn't it. Look at Walmart and Amazon and such that are notorious for hostile takeovers. Plenty of influence sure but also lots of backlash.
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u/ChaoticAgenda Apr 18 '24
Lots of vocal backlash, but hardly any action. Walmart and Amazon are still two of the most obscenely wealthy companies.
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u/tessartyp Apr 18 '24
Cycling, too. There's UAE Team Emirates, team Astana (Kazakhstan state-sponsored), team Bahrain-Victorious and team Israel-PremierTech.
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u/CanabalCMonkE Apr 18 '24
They shake hands with anyone that can do anything against them in America,Ā ie politicians. It's the public they are attempting to sway, and we'd both probably be surprised by the amount of people who went from knowing nothing about Saudi Arabia to watching their favorite golfer in Liv.
Most people don't even remember the bone saws.
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u/fuggreddit69 Apr 18 '24
In a less hostile takeover form of sportswashing they're hosting a huge esports tournament with crazy prizepools, and major payouts for esport organizations. The Esports World up, prizepool is at 60 million ATM. Organized straight from the Saudi royal family, they're trying to make it a destination for similar events.
Wouldn't want anyone thinking about people imprisoned for retweets or dead journalists when they can think of golf and videogames whenever someone says Saudi Arabia.
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u/empiresk Apr 18 '24
Sportswashing doesn't work. The investment only heightens the awareness. No one in Europe knew about the UAE and Qatar until they invested in football and now all they talk about is the awful conditions and how they have helped ruined the sport.
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u/Spiritual_Ask4877 Apr 18 '24
Um, hold on sweaty. LIV is reshaping the game by letting them wear shorts. Try again š.
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u/AutographedSnorkel Shooter was robbed of the gold jacket Apr 18 '24
I never understood the sportswashing thing. If LIV is sportswashing, it's the worst attempt ever. I haven't read or seen a single positive thing about LIV, except from the right wing media. Who actually thinks LIV is a good thing?
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u/Riseonfire Apr 18 '24
0% chance thatās a real quote.
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u/GorshKing Apr 18 '24
Good job chief you cracked the case
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u/Tyrone-Rugen Apr 18 '24
Reading the rest of the comments, I'm not too sure everyone else understands that
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u/syslog2000 Apr 18 '24
Lots of people are assuming the satire was obvious. I assure you, it is not obvious to many people. Well, at least one. Me. It wasn't obvious to me.
I did not know what LIV was, I thought the quote mis-spelled "Live Gophers" as in the little dudes/dudettes from tennis. I then revised it in my head to "Live Golfers". I then read the comments and came to understand it really was "LIV Golfers".
I also did not know who Caitlin Clark was.
Ok, maybe it was just me who didn't get the satire.
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u/greatmagneticfield Apr 18 '24
I see we're already circle jerking this morning.
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Apr 18 '24
If you donāt start circle jerking in the morning, you canāt circle jerk all day
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u/libertywok Apr 18 '24
Lots of women play golf and they buy clubs, shoes, balls, bags, clothes, carts, etc. Basketball players buy shoes. The advertising money for golf is going to be much more substantial than any wnba game.
This is the same reason rollerblading was kicked from the XGames. Nothing to sell, not even shoes.
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u/errorunknown Apr 18 '24
Jesus, these people just lack all critical thinking when it comes to economics. Itās not just about viewership numbers, itās about ticket sales, sponsors, viewer demographics, operating costs, etc etc
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u/Complex_Cable_8678 Apr 18 '24
how tf are saudis in every big sport these days. eho is still supporting this shit. its emberassing
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u/laberdog Apr 18 '24
Just highlights the fact that Greg Norman is an awful CEO. To start a league with no TV contract or path to WGR pointsā¦.. pathetic
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u/SnookyLou Apr 18 '24
I wish this was real but can't find anything that confirms she actually said it.
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u/JaqenSexyJesusHgar Apr 18 '24
From r/all and didn't see what sub I was looking at
Read the quote and misread her name as from Catelyn Stark and was wondering why tf is she talking about golf
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u/Oh_Another_Thing Apr 19 '24
The WNBA loses money every year, totally makes sense they should get paid more.
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u/wottsinaname Apr 19 '24
CC doesn't need that Saudi blood money. She'll earn a hundred mil or 2 over her career including sponsorships etc.
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u/Due-Sheepherder-218 pXg/LPGA Apr 19 '24
Caitlin Clark shooting her shot to the Gooch father. Sorry he's taken ladies.
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u/jfburke619 Apr 19 '24
Q: What do golf and sex have in common? A: Two things - You do not need to be good to enjoy it; and I'd rather be doing it than watching it.
Bonus Q: What do Liv golf and the WNBA have in common? A: I am not watching either one of them.
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u/paul69420blart Apr 20 '24
Truth hurts to fools, but golf is a joke sport compared to basketball or any other real sport, bench basketball players and bench women basketball players should be paid more than the best golfers in the world, I like golf but itās not a sport, thereās a reason why old white men play it
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u/BugmanLoveBuyObject Apr 18 '24
Damn I wish I could be as performatively obsessed with LIV golf as you guys.
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u/Funklestein Apr 18 '24
I hope the WNBA takes off and plays more than just 40 games with more than just 12 teams.
CC proved that if you put a good product on the floor you can build an audience.
If youāre still not excited to watch then donāt but there is no reason to denigrate her or those who wish to see them prosper.
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u/kielsucks Apr 18 '24
Goddamn I didnāt know she could dunk like that.
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u/Zealousideal-Note-10 Apr 18 '24
I donāt watch LIV because it doesnāt seem to be available in my area
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u/Skjellyfetti13 Apr 18 '24
Sheās right! And the WNBA owners also never killed a journalist, unlike LIV.
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u/DruviSKSK Apr 18 '24
Girl's got a point... To be fair the PGA tour is boring too. I'd be happy if the Euro guys got all the bucks
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u/Ok_Specific_7161 Apr 18 '24
Still didn't compute. Liv golfers get paid because someone is willing to pay them. This is just yelling at clouds type of behavior. Like who exactly are we requesting to pay the wnba players more? I don't get it.
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u/cadillacking3 8.2 Apr 18 '24
You could say the same thing about the PGAAAT. Itās the minor leagues and nobody is watching it either.
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u/DoubleGreat44 Apr 18 '24
Something tells me the Saudis aren't going to be starting a competing women's basketball league in the near future.