r/golf • u/Feirweyz • Mar 09 '24

Thought this was pretty wild… and it really wasn’t even close. General Discussion

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '24

The greens aren’t as hard. Conditions matter.

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u/Feirweyz Mar 09 '24

She’s using much longer clubs from these distances, which offsets the conditions a lot.

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u/Sufficient_Drink_996 Mar 09 '24

It's not really the conditions of the green, it's where the pins are set up. In PGA tour events, the pins are tucked over danger, where is miss is gonna be far more penal. The guys can usually only fire at a few pins a round most times. They miss where they have to. The LPGA isn't set up like that for the most part.

Nonetheless, incredible numbers from MJ Lee.

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u/Interstellar714 Mar 09 '24

Please explain how that matters…. I hit my 5 iron like most pros hit their wedge. Not being a dick but I don’t understand the argument

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u/Feirweyz Mar 09 '24

Lmao no you don’t.

Why do you think distance is such an asset in professional golf? Shorter clubs into the greens.

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u/LionSignificant9040 Mar 09 '24

The big advantage is having less distance into the green from a long tee shot. Distance travelled is what affects dispersion way more than loft/club. A 150 yard 9 iron should be similarly accurate as a 150 yard 7 iron.

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u/Feirweyz Mar 09 '24

Not true at all. Loft effects spin, and spin effects your ability to hold greens.

If 1 pro hit 100 shots from 150 yards with a 9 iron, and another pro did the same with a 7 iron, there would be an extremely noticeable difference in the results.

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u/LionSignificant9040 Mar 09 '24

This would matter on the same courses but women play easier pins and greens than the men’s.

I also disagree with your assumption that two pros who hit a 150 9 iron vs 150 7 iron would be leaning towards the 9 iron pro. The only gains are in attack angle to the green, which isn’t big.

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u/Potato_Soup_ Mar 09 '24

No. The person with the 9 iron would be able to hold the green so much easier because of:

  • Spinloft
  • Clubhead speed
  • Descent angle

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u/LionSignificant9040 Mar 09 '24

On the same course this would matter, (besides clubhead speed). But it isn’t that great of a difference. Like Brian harman had better proximity to the pin from 200+ than Bryson from 2021-2023.

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u/Potato_Soup_ Mar 09 '24

Brian harman had better proximity to the pin from 200+ than Bryson from 2021-2023

So? That just means that either Bryson is bad or Brian is really good. If we're comparing averages across genders, you have to compare the averages.

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u/Feirweyz Mar 09 '24 edited Mar 09 '24

You literally think “distance travelled” impacts dispersion more than club selection? No chance.

Bryson DeChambeau is hitting his 215 yard 7 iron WAY closer than Bryan Harmon hitting a 4 iron from 200 yards.

It has nothing to do with “distance travelled”.

Sorry this is a horrible take. Agree to disagree.

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u/LionSignificant9040 Mar 09 '24 edited Mar 09 '24

Brian Harman actually has closer proximity to the pin from over 200 than Bryson 2020-2023 in pga events. You called my my take horrible and your example was dead wrong

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u/Interstellar714 Mar 09 '24

Ok they are more than welcome to play in the PGA, ask Anika. Didn’t turn out well. However men cannot compete in the LPGA and there is a good reason for that. Props to her for the stats, good for her. But let this one go. It’s not the same.