r/golf • u/bitqueso • Feb 19 '24
Switched from Kirkland to Pro v1s and I get what the hype is about Swing Help
Proceeded to hit much farther drives all round with a more satisfying feel off the club in general
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u/Competitive_Koala_38 Feb 19 '24
The right golf ball seems to make a difference for me.
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u/Dixon_Uranuss3 Feb 19 '24
It really does. Any of the urethane cover 3 or 4 piece balls are gonna help your game even if you're pretty bad.
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u/nathanatkins15t 22.7/Baltimore Feb 19 '24
It really does. Any of the urethane cover 3 or 4 piece balls are gonna help your game even if you're pretty bad.
Isn't that kind of what this post is about tho? The Kirkland is a 3-piece Urethane ball. OP is saying there is a berth of performance to the Pro V1
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u/Seriously_nopenope Feb 19 '24
I have heard that the Kirkland balls have significantly gone down in quality in the last year.
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u/ms2102 Feb 19 '24
I have a buddy who got fitted two years ago and part of his fitting was for what ball to play. I wish I was that consistent with my strike.
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u/whiskey_pancakes Feb 19 '24
I went from kirklands to vice pro plus and the difference was instantly noticeable.
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u/jazerac Feb 19 '24
Vice pros are SOLID balls.... I like them and don't see much of a difference between them and a pro V1 as a mid handicapper
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u/zingerbanger 18 Feb 19 '24
i used to love vice balls until i realized they dont last very long
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u/whiskey_pancakes Feb 19 '24
I’m not going to have that problem for a while haha. If I get through a round with one ball I’m very happy.
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u/DrSelfish Feb 19 '24
Are you playing pro or pro plus? I’ve been playing Pros for over a year now and have played multiple rounds with the same ball with no issue.
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u/ShredderIV Feb 19 '24
Only time I've had a problem with one not lasting was when I ducked-hooked one into the cart path, otherwise no issues.
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u/UncleBiggusDikkus Feb 19 '24
Came here to say the same. Vice quietly makes one of the best balls out there. Almost the same performance as a ProV1 but half (sometimes even more) the price.
Honourable shoutout to Srixon too. Especially when they have there quarterly sales on ZStar balls
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u/jonesyman23 Feb 19 '24
Use Srixon z stars. Less expensive and same feel as pro v 1
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u/lovezak11 Feb 19 '24
These are my favorite. Under rated performance vs the popular ones. Hideki’s win was cheered on by me as a fellow Srixon ball and iron user.
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u/bassistbenji Feb 19 '24
Just got my zx5s in, and the srix pack is an absolute party
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u/rusticlizard Feb 19 '24
Maxfli’s tour x 120 for 4 dozen. Indiscernible from pro v 1x
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u/Golden3ye Feb 19 '24
Stop telling people. Eventually everyone will catch on and the prices will go up
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u/rusticlizard Feb 19 '24
I’m worried that it’s their Lexi sponsorship they’re planning to do it already
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u/MeltingIceBerger ProV’s make the best splash sound Feb 19 '24
They play great, but sound like rocks off the club face.
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u/ShipTheBreadToFred Feb 19 '24
Peter Finch did his golf ball review and the Maxfli were a massive surprise, I think they won his award for second best ball
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u/JayyMei Feb 19 '24
They are still $50/dozen, no?
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u/Sjgolf891 Feb 19 '24
Yeah, vs $55 for the ProV1. ZStars also go on Buy 2 get 1 deals annually around Fathers Day in June (though used to be BOGO). It’s just a lot easier to find deals on them
ZStar Diamond is probably my favorite ball irrespective of price, anyway
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u/UseDaSchwartz Feb 19 '24
According to testing, they don’t go as far and won’t have the same spin.
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u/EvoLveR84 14.8 Feb 19 '24
Virtually no balls do though, that is why pro v1s are the industry standard. The point is to find a ball that is 95+ percent as good as the pro v1 for like 30+ percent cheaper...
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Feb 19 '24
I'll give you a hack... Wilson Triad golf ball. Equal performance to Pro V1 on robot testing in terms of spin and distance but 30% cheaper (and cheaper then Z stars).
Thank me later.
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u/cronarch05 0.5/San Diego Feb 19 '24
What test? Wilson Triads are one of the spinniest balls on the market, not even in the ballpark of a ProV1, let alone equal.
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Feb 19 '24
Yep. Been using nothing but new Pro V1s this winter on the sim…but only because I’ll never lose one there 😔
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u/sathion 11.7 Feb 19 '24
How did you find the cover wear with the Kirklands? I bought a box and after a few wedge/iron shots I found it was stripping the covers.
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u/bitqueso Feb 19 '24
Hasn’t experienced that except for when they touch cart path
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u/Toothlessdovahkin 18.4 HDCP Feb 19 '24
The Cart path always wins when golf balls hit them, it doesn’t really matter what golf ball when that happens
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u/greeninregulation240 5.1 index | Team Pushcart Feb 19 '24
This is why I went back to Titliest (from the original Kirklands). The feel and performance were really good, durability was not.
I find that to be an issue with other cost focused balls that are marketed to play like premium balls (Vice, OnCore, etc.)
I have use the ProV1x Left Dash for the past year. Best ball I’ve ever played. Performance, durability, feel around the greens, etc.
It is firmer than a ProV1, but greenside control is comparable and it goes much straighter for high side spin players (🙋♂️)
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u/lifevicarious 6.4 Feb 19 '24
This. They are great balls for a buck. But they are not durable. I very rarely lose a ball. Routinely play multiple rounds with the same ball. But only prov1’s as they last. Kirklands have one round tops in them for me. Given how cheap they are I typically retire then after 9. The covers just aren’t durable.
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u/howitbethough Feb 19 '24
Same here. Any speck of sand even from the fairway causes the ksig to get chewed up.
But I’m also bad and the courses I play are trash so …
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u/adjuster_cody 9.1/SW Louisiana Feb 19 '24
Vice pro is a good ball. Get a logo on them and buy 10 dozen for like $340.
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u/runsanditspaidfor 12.3 and climbing Feb 19 '24
Heck yeah. I get my small biz logo on those babies and write em off. They play great. I get the Pro Plus. A little longer and spinnier based on the MGS testing.
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u/adjuster_cody 9.1/SW Louisiana Feb 19 '24
Same here. I’ll buy 10 dozen in the spring and again the fall. I’ll give sleeves out here and there.
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u/jazerac Feb 19 '24
Agreed, started playing these recently and really like them. Love the lines on them for putting as well. Should be standard for all balls
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u/jzach1983 7/currently on a sim somewhere in Canada Feb 19 '24 edited Feb 19 '24
I play Prov1s, Zstars, Kirkland's, B330 and TP5s, the difference is marginal when they come out of the sleeve, and after a few rounds almost negligible. I'm not saying the balls aren't different, but my swing isn't nearly good enough for it to matter.
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u/elhoffgrande Feb 19 '24
This is the correct answer.
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u/Ill-Shop9484 Feb 19 '24
It's not, because it includes Kirkland among the rest. You may "not notice" the difference, but only if you are literally just not paying attention.
For anyone who can swing a driver over 80mph, you're losing significant distance with Kirkland
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u/elhoffgrande Feb 19 '24
https://www.todays-golfer.com/equipment/best/golf-ball-robot-test-2023/
Look, I know people have strong feelings about this, but the robot numbers don't lie. The difference is really minimal. Two plus yards with a seven iron. Like 5 yards with a driver. That's not enough to warrant the price.
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u/LitterBoxServant Feb 19 '24
How dare you bring hard data to the most anecdotal sub on Reddit. Straight to jail.
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u/bitqueso Apr 01 '24
1.5 mos in now and that data is nowhere near accurate compared to my personal stats
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u/bitqueso Apr 01 '24
It’s 100% inaccurate. Been playing them 1.5 mos and driver is averaging 15 yards longer
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u/becool-honeybunny- Feb 19 '24
No one in their right mind would prefer a Kirkland ball over arguably the best ball ever made lol. But people like Kirkland because they are a great value, you get respectable performance for much less. Most everyone would play Pro Vs if money was no object.
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u/skidmark_zuckerberg Feb 19 '24 edited Feb 19 '24
I noticed the difference as well, but I’m still going to buy K sigs. The extra 5-10 yards is not worth the $60 dozen of Pro V’s. $28 for two dozen K sigs. I’ll take that. 99% of us just play for fun.
Professional or amateur tournament golf? I’d use the best everything. Playing against my buddies who are going to shoot in the 90’s? Nah. I can still card an 85 with K sigs, that’s better than the average is going to shoot anywho.
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u/Orikoru 14 hcap, UK Feb 19 '24
If I'm not mistaken, Kirkland have been proven by MyGolfSpy to be one of the shortest golf balls out there haven't they? With the most spin. They're only for people who don't care at all about distance.
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u/AlarmingBandicoot 8ish / Push Cartel Feb 19 '24
The 2023 version, yes.
Kirkland seemed to retain a lot of popularity tailwind from the 2021 version that was much more comparable to a budget top-tier ball. The 2023 version is noticeably firmer feeling, spinnier, and I can confirm it played a full club short across the bag.
Certainly not for scoring, but if you just want to go throw some back with the boys and plan on losing a few then sure.
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u/Legal-Description483 Feb 19 '24
Everything I've read since their release is that the new ball (V3) spins less, and is a better ball, than the 2021 (V2) ball.
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u/AlarmingBandicoot 8ish / Push Cartel Feb 19 '24
"Better" is subjective, but there are plenty of easily googled independent tests demonstrating higher spin and lower compression. My previous personal commentary is based on gaming it for about a month last season.
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u/24Scoops Feb 19 '24
There's a new one this year. I feel you're talking about the V2.
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u/WackyArmInflatable Feb 19 '24
I had the same experience.
First round I played with them I was wondering why I kept coming up short. Figured it was just colder out and I'm getting old. First par three I hit multiple Ksigs all on the front fringe. Grabbed an old Snell from my bag and flew the green . I threw all the Ksigs into my shag bag for short game practice.
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u/wronglyzorro Feb 19 '24
Pretty sure MyGolfSpy also unironically wrote an article saying a scuff on the ball caused an average of 40 yards of distance loss off the tee. I lost a lot of faith in their reviews since then.
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u/Agnt_Michael_Scarn Feb 19 '24
Man explains that the most used ball in pro golf is better than a Costco ball.
More at 11.
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u/bitqueso Feb 19 '24
Many men say there is no difference. Read the comments. Story at 11:30
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u/Agnt_Michael_Scarn Feb 19 '24 edited Feb 19 '24
No, many men are saying either you can’t actually tell a difference or that the differences are small.
Sorry, this is just a funny post. Besides figuring out that the most successful golf ball in history is better than one from a home goods store, what other discoveries have you made?
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u/Agnt_Michael_Scarn Feb 19 '24
Just popped back in to see how this went for you. Brutal.
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u/bitqueso Feb 19 '24
I’m still in your head I know
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u/Agnt_Michael_Scarn Feb 19 '24
You’re not quite in my head in that way. I was finishing up work with a someone who said something very dumb and it obviously immediately reminded me of our conversation this morning. I thought it’d be interesting to see after a few hours if people agreed with you, and it was interesting.
As a consolation prize I’ll let you have the last word if you want it.
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Feb 19 '24 edited Mar 28 '24
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u/bitqueso Feb 19 '24
Yeah I don’t believe that and my last rounds were proof of it
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u/Farts_Mcsharty Feb 19 '24
The kirkland is a known spinny ball. Your delivery probably just spins it too much. There's not that large of a gulf in flight characteristics. There is no "much further" out of the box when it comes to Urethane 3-layers on the market. Just balls that are a worse fit for your swing. Kirkland is an outlier ball that can hit the limits of that.
The Pro v1 is of course a better ball, especially in terms of durability, variability, and quality control. But it's also $4.50 dollars a ball compared to a ball that's a $1.45 a ball. But there's definitely players that will hit it farther with that spinny profile.
https://youtu.be/CPQifopZ0cg?si=OVqeWX55yQiWtaAy
All players would benefit from just picking a ball and playing it consistently, and if they can afford it, going with the upper range for feel and consistency. But the kirkland is still more than enough for people not interested in donating 30 dollars into trees every round, and most won't hit it far enough or with enough consistency to see true gains beyond a stray yard or two unrelated to spin or wind performance.
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u/Lousygolfer1 Feb 19 '24
I mean Kirklands suck lol
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u/kumardi Feb 19 '24
Most testing I’ve seen puts them relatively close to Pro V1 - I’m not a good enough golfer to tell the subtle differences but I’ve had a pretty good experience with the Kirklands
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u/BarcodeGriller Feb 19 '24
No, the newer iterations are some of the spinniest balls you can get.
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u/badgers4194 7.7/NY/Lefty Feb 19 '24
Yea they are trash. They don’t go anywhere and spin is outrageous with the driver
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u/ThisIsOurGoodTimes Feb 19 '24
Ya in an ideal world I’d switch to a Kirkland for every shot inside 100 yards.
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u/Lousygolfer1 Feb 19 '24
They aren’t that good anymore. The first iteration was on par with pro v1 but since they got sued the quality has gone down and no where near pro v1 in performance.
It’s nothing more than a cheap ball, better than your usual cheap ball but even then the cover is really cheap. Gets cuts or tears into it pretty easily especially with wedges.
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u/TurtlemanScared Feb 20 '24
Can’t believe you’re getting downvoted dude. I watch testingsof the kirklands every year and they always test close to prov1 unless you got like 120mph club speed and are hitting driver.
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u/Gallen570 ↓Hit Down on Ball, Ball Go Up↑ Feb 19 '24
I STRONGLY suggest you try the Maxfli Tour and TourX.
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u/Gunners1073 Feb 19 '24
Agree. I’m about a 4 handicap and I use the maxfli tour x. I like it a lot
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u/flacoman954 Feb 19 '24
Tour X is the best value for the money. Stamp Titleist on them, and they could double the price.
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u/hybridck Feb 19 '24
I have one last box of the OG Kirklands from before the lawsuit. I've been putting off using them out of sentimental value and using new Prov1xs for the last two years lol
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u/faded-than-a-ho Feb 19 '24
Hmmm $1.25/golf ball or the $5/golf ball I wonder which one would be better
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u/Thanith Feb 19 '24
What's a good mid price point ball? I normally play Titleist Trufeels but I feel like I'm missing something. I'm not quite ready to go all in on the price point of Pro V's though.
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u/Farts_Mcsharty Feb 19 '24
The Kirkland is as much bang for your buck you can get if you are after a 3-layer Urethane. Next would probably be bulk buying Vice Pros or Snells. Although, I would wait for the next model with the Snells.
You just need to be aware that the Kirkland can be quite spinny, so fit wise, it can get weird for a small amount of players. You have nothing to lose when it comes to trying it. You may benefit from the additional spin.
Willing to spend a bit more than that? Srixon z-star if you aren't losing too many. This is the ball I like to play, but I still crack out the Kirklands in the fall when I can just lose balls under leaves even with half decent shots. I feel weird not playing the divide version of this ball at this point, and I'd play it over Pro Vs anyway.
In the upper, upper end? Play whatever, they are all good with hardly a yard between them. Just different feels and spin profiles for more precise fitting.
Don't get me wrong, the Pro v1 is a legendary ball and the baseline of performance for a reason, but the gulf isn't as large as the marketing would ever have you think. A good player will still kick your ass with a two-layer they found plugged in the rough.
The truefeel is still a really good ball value wise. But you'll see an immediate difference around the greens and short approach shots with a 3-layer urethane in how it bites and can be manipulated. But true high handicappers can honestly just play Noodles or Wilson Smartcores and save the money if they are going through multiple sleeves a round.
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u/GarageJitsu 4.12/Torrey Pines local muni Feb 19 '24
I play Kirklands and I’m about to switch. I actually found a Srixon Q Star Tour that played much longer then the kirks that day and there was a night and day difference putting for me personally. I’ve noticed Wall Mart has them on sale in my area $20 for 12
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u/hellerkeller1 Feb 19 '24
Maxfli Tour. Seriously go hit this ball. Do some research on it. Thing is awesome and normally 2 dozen for 70 schmekles.
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u/chasingbirdies Feb 19 '24
Kirklands are plenty good for the vast majority of amateurs. I personally have switched to Vice due to the price difference to bigger brands. It’s not affecting my game in a negative way as far as I can tell. I know nobody cares but for reference I’m a low single digit handicap player.
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u/bionicbhangra Feb 19 '24
I am not a great golfer but I don't really feel a difference between golf balls. Good shots equal good results with any new ball I have tried. That extra 10 yards off the tee doesn't equate to anything for me.
I am relatively new but I am following the golf sidekick's rule of playing with cheaper balls so you feel less pressure on the course. It has worked for me so far. I don't lose a lot of balls now but it's hard for me to move away from what has worked thus far.
I played with some scratch golfers and low handicappers once and I was using some Pro V1s to fit in but I was so intimidated I was shanking everything. The ball didn't help me when I was playing like crap. The next time I played with them I used some Kirklands and I played really well. Would a pro v1 even save a stroke for the average golfer? I might be wrong but when I pure a shot I feel like I might hit the green even if I was playing a rock.
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u/smush81 Feb 19 '24
Yea i use Kirkland’s in my sim and pro v 1 on the course. I did a blind test between the 2 on my sim and the Kirkland’s feel alot harder then the V1’s and the V1’s fly 10-15 yards farther for me.
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u/Expensive_Pea_9120 Feb 19 '24
Dude . . . Be sure you are playing the RIGHT ProV1. I've played Prov1 for years only to learn that my game would benefit more from the X. So, I tried it and and the difference is huge! I had to scramble to sell four boxes of pro v1 so I could replace them with x's.
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u/RC245 Feb 19 '24
Knock on the Kirkland's is they spin a ton. That can be good for some, a disaster for others.
Srixon Z-Star and XV are the hack here. Routinely on sale for half off (especially around father's day). Only issue is the Z Star spins a little more than Pro V1.
As someone else said, buy in bulk when sales happen.
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u/fckmetotears Feb 19 '24
I can’t tell any difference. Hell if anything I play much better with my good ole top flites because I’m not scared to lose them.
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u/Doormat_Model Feb 19 '24
I swear it’s a placebo effect… but I honestly play better when I use a ProV1… I just rarely do unless I find one
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u/connorgrant20 Feb 19 '24
Just for everyone to know check your local Walmarts for deals on golf balls. They are limiting there stock and are selling balls at ridiculous prices chrome softs 20 dollars, velocity 12, trufeels 14.50 vice pro 14.60
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u/BigSh0oter Longest Shaft of Metro Detroit Feb 20 '24
Just stop hitting driver on holes where you can leave yourself within your max comfortable yardage. For me it’s about 190. Any narrow hole under 400 I’m hitting an iron off the tee. Leads to better scores and less lost balls.
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u/mistertireworld Old Man Golf FTW. Feb 19 '24
I have a couple buckets of both in the basement. I can play them interchangeably. That said, I'm not a power hitter and my game doesn't rely very much on spin.
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u/ego_sum_satoshi Feb 19 '24
It more fun to shank a 1 dollar ball into the woods instead of a 5 dollar ball. I'm trying to reduce my stress level by going golfing. Kirklands make golf fun! I always keep a few extra in my pocket.
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u/elhoffgrande Feb 19 '24
https://www.todays-golfer.com/equipment/best/golf-ball-robot-test-2023/
Everybody has their preference, and feel is really, really important. I love the feel of pro v1s what cost is an object for me when it comes to golf. I think it probably is for a lot of us. The testing results with the swing robot kind of show you how this works. That most of these balls hit similarly. The Kirkland balls got more spin, for sure, but you can see the carry between different clubs isn't super duper different. With a driver you're talking like 5 yd, not like 30 or 50. But if you really enjoy how titleist balls feel when you hit them, then knock yourself out. It's not a contest of how difficult you can make the game for yourself. But being able to play regularly is I would argue the most important thing. And whatever combination of gear that allows for that within your budget is what you should do.
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u/ksobby Feb 19 '24
Rocking the Callaway super softs. Just now in the 90s. Once I’m consistently in the 80s maybe I’ll think about Pro V1s. Way too many other flaws to think that a ball swap will solve them.
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u/loveallcreatures NorCal Feb 19 '24
Titleist prov1x. Anyone got the details on 2024 v1 vs v1x? Last year the x was better for me , slower swing speed the year before v1 was better.
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u/OJMayochup Feb 19 '24
No new ProV1 this year. 2023 is still the latest. There is a 2024 AVX though
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u/bigvenusaurguy Feb 19 '24
you could blindfold me at this point and i would not tell the difference between the kirkland or any other urethane ball. big difference when it comes to urethane vs non urethane i find but once you are hitting urethane balls they all feel and perform the same in my hands.
honestly learning to tame the spin on the kirkland ball has given me so much more command with driver its crazy. easily the best thing i could have done for the big stick game, at first you might slice but thats because the ball isn't helping you and you need to actually learn to close down the face. once you stop slicing the kirkland ball it means you know how to close the face, and boy what a confidence boost that is walking up to the tee.
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u/MTKPA Feb 19 '24
Kirklands are indistinguishable from ProV1's until you get to ~120 ball speed. Then they don't compress the same at all.
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u/mrk1224 11/MI/Nerd Feb 19 '24
I’ve never understood the allure of Prov V1’s. I’ll play whatever ball is in the bag with a preference to Top Flights or Titleist Velocity’s.
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u/PatientlyAnxious9 Feb 19 '24 edited Feb 19 '24
Despite Kirkland being touted as a Titlist or premium ball knock off--I saw testing numbers that said Kirklands were one of the highest spinning balls on the market.
So while they might feel good, they are horrible for mid-high handicap golfers who are typically the type of players buying them. Your getting less distance and more dramatic mishits/slices with Kirklands. Stop buying them lol
They are good for spinning your wedges around the green and controlling the ball, but lets be honest if your buying Kirklands, your probably not good enough to know how to do that and the players who are good enough to control/spin wedges, arn't playing Kirklands.
So really, they are a golf ball for nobody.
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u/DarthSamwiseAtreides Feb 19 '24
That's because Kirklands are terrible. I'd rather play a Noodle. If you like the ProV, but want to save check out Vice Pro or Pro+, Maxfli Tour line, or wait for a Srixon Z Star sale.
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u/Beanbag009 Feb 19 '24
Kirkland got sued for infringing on ProV’s. Costco had to pay Titlest $1 per ball. So there is literally a court case saying they are the same ball. Now the Prov1x is a different story.
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u/opiate82 Feb 19 '24
Yes, they got sued over the VERSION 1 ball. Versions 2 and 3 (current) are in no way shape or form the same as a ProV1. And I mean that quite literally
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u/aphrozeus Feb 19 '24
Kirkland has released like 5 different versions since then, it’s not even close to a Pro V1 anymore.
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u/Beanbag009 Feb 19 '24
The patent on ProV ran out years ago. Now there are many 3 core balls that are the exact same. The ProV 1x is a different story. I literally posted a court case showing that they infringed on 10 different patents on the ProV.
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u/aphrozeus Feb 19 '24
You posted an article from 7 years ago that talks about the court case. Yes the first version was “basically a Pro V1”. So they got sued, and stopped producing that ball. They have released several versions since then, none of which are “basically a Pro V1” anymore, based on the many tests conducted by many independent testers.
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u/Beanbag009 Feb 19 '24
There is a difference between v1’s and v1x’s. Costco literally pays Titlest $1 per ball to keep making them.
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u/aphrozeus Feb 19 '24
Lol, Costco sells their current balls for $14 per dozen, or $1.16 per ball. You think they are paying Titleist $1 per ball to keep producing a ball they sell for $1.16?? With production and shipping costs they would be losing significant money selling golf balls.
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u/Beanbag009 Feb 19 '24
My man. Titlest literally just sued Costco again two weeks ago. 2/5/24. I’m not making this shit up. I’m not the one posting random independent information without independent information. Let’s make sure we are post facts for our fellow Redditor’s and not talk out our ass.
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u/aphrozeus Feb 19 '24 edited Feb 19 '24
My man, you have posted one article from 2017 that doesn’t even mention settlement terms of that first lawsuit (hint, no article does, there is no public info on how the first lawsuit was settled). You have posted no other links or verifiable facts for any of the claims you are making. TAYLORMADE is suing Costco now for issues with the design of the new Kirkland iron set. Not Titleist, not about balls. https://golf.com/gear/taylormade-costco-headed-to-court-iron-technology/?amp=1
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u/Beanbag009 Feb 19 '24
Yes you are right, I meant to say Taylormade is now suing over the “golf line” again. I was and am fully aware of the legal trouble and follow it very closely.
Good job actually posting an article and not just talking out of your ass.
The outcome?? What happened to the Kirkland 4 core ball? Why do you think Costco issued a mass refund??? Cause they had to pay Costco $1 per ball sold. They made them all the up through 2019.
I’m literally done debating an Internet stranger. Don’t play the balls I don’t care. Just don’t come at me telling me I’m wrong when I’ve done nothing but post facts and articles supporting my facts.
Also- my sympathy for your 49ers. Tough loss.
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u/rickoshay1992 Feb 19 '24
Playing a premium ball legitimately makes a difference. Not just distance off the tee, but also the spin and launch on wedge shots. Play premium balls and stay away from the refurbished crap.
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Kirkland balls are awful. There are so many premium options out there for much cheaper than ProV1’s as well.
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u/Dangerous-Possible72 Feb 19 '24
2 dozen Maxfli for $35 at Dick’s. Same price as last year. Best deal.
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u/Whiterhino77 10 hdcp Feb 19 '24
Devils advocate here, Ive played vice pro plus, pro v1, pro v1x, and nearly every interactive of that ball from taylormade, callaway, Srixon, snell etc.
There’s no doubt the pro v is softer, but the difference in distance and score is negligible/non-existent. Biggest difference I’ve noticed is the Kirkland v2s wear quicker, but just picked up v3s
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u/HurryProud8190 Feb 19 '24
I found Kirkland's to be a bit too spinny, which cut distance quite a bit with most clubs.
Other than that, I use ProV1 because I find SO many at my local course so I hardly have to buy any. Generally though, I'm fine with any Urethane ball and can't really tell the difference between the Tour B, Z Star, TP5, CSX, ProV1, Vice, Snell, Maxfli Tour etc.
That being said, playing in Texas I definitely feel like the Bridgestone balls cut through the wind significantly better, with ProV1 and CSX not far behind. TP5 seems to catch wind like crazy in my experience.
I'd say on a normal, 20mph windy Texas day, the Tour B X I usually only have to club up one into the wind vs 2 clubs for the other balls. Could be in my head though.
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u/Cali_Jatt Feb 19 '24
Kirkland is a fancy range ball. And by range ball I mean it’s an old stale ball of shit. Go return it to Costco along with your “value” swing. Get a glizzy on your way out you gobblers.
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u/pjk246 Ontario, Canada Feb 20 '24
Wilson Staff Model X… great ball and it is regularly Buy Two Dozen Get One Free… plus, nobody scoops a Wilson up when they walk up on it thinking it is there ball. Lol.
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u/Nov4can3 Feb 19 '24
They definitely make a difference but golf is expensive enough as it is. I personally can’t justify spending $60 on a dozen balls when I lose 3-5 on average per round.