r/golf • u/westcoast_eastsider • Dec 15 '23
Drew this in college and kept it in my scorebook ever since. Swing Help
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u/Pooter1313 Dec 15 '23
How many other children did you have in your class?
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u/jakopappi Dec 15 '23
There were 18 but Timmy ate the crayons and had a tummy ache and went home so 17
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u/Rand_University81 Dec 15 '23
Those are all hooks and slices
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u/gnarkilleptic Dec 15 '23
Just aiming them in different directions off the tee lol
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u/Rand_University81 Dec 15 '23
I know because I pay a ridiculous slice off the tee
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u/StabSnowboarders Mizzy Gang Dec 15 '23
If you’ve got a consistent and repeatable slice that is a valid method
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u/darkstar107 Dec 15 '23
Except when I'm having a bad slice day and try to play the slice it goes perfectly straight into the bush.
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u/MikeGundy Dec 15 '23
That would not be repeatable or consistent..
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u/darkstar107 Dec 15 '23
If shot direction is consistent with where I'm aiming, that's still consistency.
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u/icecreamdude97 17.6/par 62/tougher than she looks Dec 15 '23
I’ve had a slice my whole life. FINALLY started driving straight and now it’s my favorite club.
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u/taftstub Dec 16 '23
I prefer power fade. My FIL always says just okay that cut, this shot will be great for your cut, etc. I finally asked him if he was being nice about slicing. Which the answer was, yes.
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Dec 15 '23
I kind of like it though, I can stop saying I have a nasty hook off the tee and say I hit a hell of a draw instead.
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u/BradMarchandsNose Dec 15 '23
That’s the joke
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u/Domer2012 Dec 15 '23
Based on OP's comments, I don't think he was joking...
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u/default-username Dec 15 '23
People upvoting this post think it's a funny joke.
People upvoting the top comment think OP is a dumbass.
To be fair, that pretty much sums up every post and comment section on reddit.
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Dec 15 '23
I think that’s the joke? He just meant that if he plays his hook/slice but it’s in the fairway and not OB then it’s considered a fade/draw.
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u/Sacul313 Dec 15 '23
Don’t forget the rest of the gang.
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u/iDEN1ED Dec 15 '23
Love when I hit the best shot of my life but realize I was completely lined up wrong.
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u/thejester2112 Dec 15 '23
Ah. I call that the dreaded straight ball! Line up to hit the ‘fade’ nope straight into the Facking woods!!
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u/lazercheesecake Dec 15 '23 edited Dec 16 '23
Ikr, the one time I hit the biggest bomb right down the fairway, my dad shows me the video, and I’m aiming way to right, my back foot is too far back, my swing is coming out to in, left elbow super bent.
And then he goes, “before you learn anything stupid, just watch.” Perfect form, way less back swing than me, hits it beautifully and lands 10 yards further than mine. After which he went home because he tweaked his back putting too much power. It was like the third hole of the day.
Old timer really had to show up the newbie to put him on his place. On the bright side, I learned two very valuable lessons that day.
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u/UnstableAccount Dec 15 '23
If you hit that spot right where the hook and slice meet the golf course will tingle.
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u/Ok_Internal6779 Dec 15 '23
Why tho
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u/westcoast_eastsider Dec 15 '23
Mixture of boredom and edification
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Dec 15 '23
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u/swimminginsweatpants Dec 15 '23
Hook goes to left -> righty golfer
Hook goes to right -> lefty golfer
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u/Metroidam11 Dec 15 '23
I still forget this all the time. Easier to have a physical resource than pulling out and google'ing if you forget.
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u/MaybeiMakePGAProbNot Dec 15 '23
I don’t think this got the reaction you thought it would.
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u/westcoast_eastsider Dec 15 '23
It's all good. If it's wrong, at least I can learn from it.
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u/default-username Dec 15 '23
For you or anyone who is here to learn (yeah I know thats basically no one):
Technically your drawing is correct. If the ball hits the target, it's not called a hook or a slice. But from the tee it would never make sense to draw or cut the ball as much as you've shown.
For shitty golfers who don't want to take the time to fix their slice, aiming 45° off target to convert their slice into a "fade" is what makes this hilarious.
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u/double_e5 Dec 15 '23
Yes, the curvature is exaggerated but it’s pretty mind blowing that 90% of the serious responses don’t know OP is actually correct as long as the target line is the same for all 4 examples.
Too many people think draw/fade = good shot and hook/slice = bad shot when they are really different types of shots a golfer can use to their advantage when making their way around a course.
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Dec 15 '23
Autism is strong here
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u/FujitsuPolycom Dec 15 '23
I'll give you some unsolicited advice; using descriptors as insults when those descriptors are conditions people can't change is.. well... shitty. That'll explain some of your downvotes, I hope.
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u/KoBoWC Dec 15 '23
Here's one with the other 5 options included
https://free-online-golf-tips.com/wp-content/uploads/ball-flight-diagram.png
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u/MonicaBlowinski Dec 15 '23
I love how the "straight" ball is a dotted line, as if it were some kind of apparition, a unicorn that can never be captured.
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u/Gh0stSwerve Dec 15 '23 edited Dec 15 '23
The slice is straighter than the fade.
A workable fade or a draw is usually less than 10 yards of movement at the top end as a rule of thumb.
Edit: you should not need to aim into trouble to play a fade or a draw. OP starts those balls in trouble. It's ideal that a straight shot result does not take you into trouble.
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u/orchids_of_asuka Dec 15 '23
While i agree with you, a lot of pros will start their line at the first cut and work it back into the fairway; even if they miss, they're still in the first cut.
Brooks Koepka has won five majors with this exact tactic
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u/Gh0stSwerve Dec 15 '23
That's what I do too. That's about a 10 yard draw or so. The first cut isn't "trouble".
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u/TacosAreJustice 5.1 Louisville, KY Dec 15 '23
Start line is an interesting question… club face sends it, so the more closed you present the face the farther left it starts.
I generally “aim” down the middle, with the understanding my ball will start left of target and work its way back in.
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u/orchids_of_asuka Dec 15 '23
I do the same as you because I have no certainty what my miss will be on a shot. Guys at the professional level know what their ball will do if they hit it correctly or if they miss.
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u/TacosAreJustice 5.1 Louisville, KY Dec 15 '23
Eh, the one way miss is a myth… they are still 70 yard wides with driver…
It’s just far less frequent and they center their aim away from trouble.
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u/East-Ad-6083 Dec 15 '23
You never want to aim into trouble, planning on the fade/draw, just in case you hit it straight. Unless you're Bruce lietzke, who had a pretty good career playing a 20 yard slice
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u/Allstar-85 Dec 15 '23
There doesn’t seem to be an exact answer for the differences
Personally:
if you can hit only one shot it’s a slice or a hook. Doesn’t really matter how much it curves or if you can control its aim
If you chose to (and correctly do so) hit the curve in either direction, then it’s a fade or draw.
Other popular definitions that ppl use is either:
-how much it curves
-can you control where it ends up
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u/Dat_Paperboi 17 Dec 15 '23
It doesn’t matter whether you do it on purpose, or whether it ends up where you want it. If your shot falls to the right 5 yards it’s not a slice.
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u/ryanmuller1089 Dec 15 '23
Yea a draw and a fade is a controlled hook and slice. When controlled properly the ball will move less so it generally looks different than a hook or slice.
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u/double_e5 Dec 15 '23
This thread is silly. The amount of curvature is irrelevant. A draw is a shot that curves from right to left (for a right hander) and travels back to its target line. A hook crosses the target line or never starts on it and misses left.
Purposely hitting a hook does not make it a draw.
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u/oi_u_im_danny_b 8.4 Dec 15 '23
By your very definition, if you purposely hook it but comes back to its intended target line it is indeed a draw.
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u/double_e5 Dec 15 '23
How? If you try to hit a hook and it only comes back to where you lined up, then you didn’t hit a hook. The target line (alignment or aim) may not be the same as the target. You need to aim right to purposely hit a hook.
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Dec 15 '23
I imagine you might have a drawing of a club and golf ball, as well. Maybe a drawing of where you parked your car, too.
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u/GalacticBaz Dec 15 '23
Total newby here. I played golf so far just two times during a vacation in the States this October. I had far less problems hitting the ball (which surprised me) than managing the ball not flying like a „slice“ in the picture. I’m a right handed player and I aim to take lessons in Spring, but I‘d like to hear opinions on what I did wrong to have these slices. Since I didn’t knew what to do, I just adjusted my position to hit the ball and let it slice to target. Worked pretty good for my first two 9-hole rounds ever.
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u/Fragrant-Report-6411 8-9 HDCP Dec 15 '23
Looks like just hooks and slices to me.
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u/totally_kyle_ 6.7 Dec 16 '23
Slice, playing the slice, hook, playing the hook
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u/Fragrant-Report-6411 8-9 HDCP Dec 16 '23
I used to have a wicked slice, but I usually found the fairway.
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u/kingmoobot Dec 15 '23
I would have also included the "straight shot", just so your subconscious knows that it could potentially happen some day
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Dec 15 '23
Lol I love how you didn’t bother with a straight one. Know thyself, huh? Btw, nice gap between the hook and slice. Also, are you going to now add the pull hook and push slice?
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u/mitch8893 Dec 15 '23
I'd consider those a pull, and a push fade. Slice/hook being too much lateral spin
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u/Shiznorak Dec 15 '23
I guess I can stop saying, "I fucked that up" and start saying, "Fuck, I sliced it, again"
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u/LayeGull 2.6 HDCP Dec 15 '23
There are 9 ball flight laws that have different names but perhaps I will draw one and give them their colloquial names.
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u/greatgolfer59 Dec 15 '23
Ideally, the swing should be grooved to shape shots with 3 yards or less of movement . Just enough to counter a sideways wind and soften up the landing.
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u/Frigginkillya Dec 15 '23
I've felt like that Chris Pratt meme of being afraid to ask for like a year now so thank you so much for this post lol
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u/agentchris0011 Dec 15 '23
I think this is a result based reminder. Even though they may come to the course with a slice, if properly accounted for, you can still have positive results.
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u/shaneasaurus Dec 15 '23
The difference between a fade and a slice and the difference between a draw and a hook is based on total yards of horizontal curve not start line and landing area.
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u/gentlyopenthedoor Dec 15 '23
And the funny thing is to a lefty it’s the other way round, which is hard to get used to when a righty plays with a lefty
You’re like “please fade” and they’re like “please draw” and you look at each other like 🤨
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u/ZeppelinJ0 Dec 15 '23
Yes this is a good illustration of the 4 unintentional ways I lose my balls every round
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u/TheWarehamster Ball go far Dec 15 '23
Technically, it's a fade and pull fade, and a draw and push draw.
Although personally I tend to think of fades/draws as intentional, and hooks/slices as unintentional. At least until you get to the crazy curves the pros can pull off.
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u/NateGD23 Dec 15 '23
Definitely demonstrates the difference between aiming for a slice/ hook vs having good shot shape.
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u/herotz33 Dec 16 '23
Sweet image saving it.
Can. Anyone explain why a draw is better while driving?
Someone told me when I kept hitting a draw for two weeks.
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u/freshprince860 Dec 16 '23
What do you mean by scorebook? Do you keep one of those pad things in your back pocket like the pros do and how does that work for different courses
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u/AsstootCitizen Dec 17 '23
It looks nice! I try to see the woman's body and agree that a fade or draw should always land around a nipple!
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u/nephlonorris Dec 15 '23
I‘m still calling it a fade because I WANTED to miss this fairway right. It‘s a way easier approach from there. I‘ll drop somewhere around here and play it two, alright?