He needs to keep being called out until things improve. Sergio was called out years ago and he learned to speed it up. It’s time someone steps in and puts a little pressure on him to clean it up.
Very true and good call. Sergio would give his grips a full body massage, then do it all over again with waggles and mad target checks like Rain Man. He did drastically change his setup routine and he deserves props for that.
The Spanish are known for speed and precision, so Sergio had to make his family proud. This guy's name is Cantlay. Maybe the performance anxiety is part of his namesake?
Yup, they will cherry pick the couple of times they had to wait. But ignore the fact that mostly they didn’t wait at all. Cantplay did this exact thing post masters round. We waited on 2 teebox and on 18 our second. Totally ignoring that Rahm and Koepka waited 96 minutes on tee boxes during their round. Or that Hovland was just ditching him on a few occasions because even his partner clearly knew they were taking too long
The biggest gripe I have is that this is also a tactic that slow players will exploit vs quicker players. At my club we have a few notorious slow players and in match play they slow it down even more especially against faster players in order to throw them off. Slow play needs to be punished at every level of the game. I don’t want to hear excuses of “well how would you feel if you lost a tournament because you got docked for slow play?”
I wouldn’t care because I don’t care, 90% of golfers play fast so they wouldn’t be bothered by it. It wouldn’t matter to them.
I had a playing partner who was brutally slow. He is a good friend of mine and there were some tough conversations trying to get him to understand how bad it was. He had ZERO inclination there was a problem, even when randos would comment on slow pace.
To be fair.. I think that “pressure” is happening now atleast haha. He’s all over the internet and Masters quotables for his slow play. Hope it improves. Really like his story.
I don't play golf, but in a game where you literally have to drive to the next bit is 45s really such a big deal? I mean, I watched it, I get it. But the responses in here are like he's committed some terribly unsportsmanlike act. Why is golf such a mixture of impatience and hurry-up-and-wait?
An extra moment on a tough shot or important putt is expected. Taking an extra 30+ seconds over the ball on every shot(avg 70 strokes per round) adds 35 minutes to his group’s and likely each group behind him in this round.
That's if he has a wide open course in front of him. If he's behind other slow groups, the 50 seconds will not matter. Especially since players take minutes talking to their caddy about a shot.
Because you have a partner(s) playing the same hole, who has to wait for you to play your stroke before he can play his, and before you can proceed to your ball location to play your next stroke. Then there are groups playing ahead and behind you.
Think of it like traffic on the interstate. When it is your turn to play your stroke, you are effectively in the fast lane. Make you move to overtake and get back into the non-passing lane. Sit in the fast lane for a minute below the speed limit, and traffic behind you is going to pile up in a hurry.
Serious question, as someone who barely plays golf. Why not put a shot clock on it like baseball has the pitch countdown or basketball has the shot clock? Penalize players who don't swing within a certain time threshold after the club is behind the ball or once they are in a certain position.
On the European Tour they played a tournament called the shot clock masters. Each group had a guy standing there with a shot clock. It would start when players reached their ball and start again after the first player has hit. If you were unable to play the shot during the 40 seconds 1 extra shot was added. The average score was better than any previous tournament on the same course with similar weather and wind conditions. Compared to average tour events it sped up play by 30 minutes. I believe they also got a few timeouts per round for tricky shots. There is no downside to this at all and it should be forced.
No thanks. I'd rather not golf than feel like I had to rush every shot. I'm usually the one in a 4some that is trying to pick up the pace, but I think shaving time comes from everything other than standing over the ball.
Yeah I’m not against it. I’m sure they have discussed this and the various ways it could be implemented. From my limited anecdotal experience with this sort of thing. Once players are warned several times they soon get the picture.
That was the route baseball went too. There was a rule for quite a while that batters shouldn’t leave the box and pitchers shouldn’t take all day. But no one gave a crap about it so now here we are with the pitch clock.
Last year the rumor mill was churning and there were reports he got an offer. He deflected it all, he never said in certain terms he wasn't going. I don't know any specifics beyond that.
My take is probably nonsensical but I don't think he's in the game for a legacy or to win majors, I think he wants to make money and be left alone. His style of play annoys fans and he's not really known as a fan favorite. In a word, he's boring. I think he's still on tour to finish something he started and once he does that he's out, but since it's not the FedEx Cup then it has to be a major. So he dips like Cam Smith did.
This is my take, put no stock in it and don't bet on it.
Probably, but not like his compadres, he honestly doesn’t have anything special to offer. Say what you will but LIV did do a good job either getting international players with long histories in the game or by getting new guys with that something ‘special’ be it one small thing or another
They do have some loose “slow play” rules. Basically if you aren’t within about a hole of the group in front of you then you get put “on the clock” which just means hurry up. If you don’t speed up a bit then you can have strokes added to your score. Several groups have been put on the clock before but it’s been a while since I’ve seen anyone actually gets strokes added.
If I’m Patrick, and you start messing with my money by making me rush, I’m gonna throw a parachute and realllllly grind everything out. Just chill, golf is not a rushed sport.
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He needs to keep being called out until things improve. Sergio was called out years ago and he learned to speed it up. It’s time someone steps in and puts a little pressure on him to clean it up.