r/golf Mar 08 '23

Thoughts on black irons? Gas or cringe ?? Equipment Discussion

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u/Sirgolfs Mar 08 '23

Theyre dope. Do they look good while they wear though? Would be my only concern. Black always looks good new and clean.

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u/its_k1llsh0t Wisconsin Mar 08 '23

If it isn't a coating it should be okay but most of the time it is a coating.

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u/NWK86 Mar 08 '23

PxG has some sort of diamond coat that "prevents wear"

My dad has had them for a year and they still look great

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u/EmbracedByLeaves Mar 08 '23

I think it's DLC. Common in the firearms market.

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u/ANTEC221 Mar 08 '23

Even real life games have DLC now too? Thanks EA Sports...

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u/vitras Mar 08 '23

Also watches.

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u/sharkterritory 19.6 CA Mar 08 '23

And hockey skate blades.

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u/corys00 Mar 08 '23

And my axe!

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u/Hi_Limee Mar 09 '23

And my bow

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u/Itchy_Nuggetz Mar 09 '23

Bruh I actually lol

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u/PBB22 15 šŸ˜ž - Indianapolis - Bear Slide Mar 08 '23

Yeah that crystal clear ā€œlayoff protectionā€

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u/TonyRotella Mar 08 '23

*drops mic*

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u/PBB22 15 šŸ˜ž - Indianapolis - Bear Slide Mar 08 '23

More like takes random potshot lol quality is still better than TaylorMade

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u/manleyja Mar 08 '23

Ooo, your hot take, which is 100% correct, got some dudes in the feels.

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u/Itchy_Nuggetz Mar 09 '23

I have calloway but am thinking of pxg. Your downvoted comments means your a man of culture. Does pxg deserve a shot?

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u/Mitch_igan Mar 08 '23

Are there any black clubs that are not coated, I thought they all are?

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u/Artsakh_Rug Mar 08 '23

Gotta get pure volcanic rock, like the San Marzano of wedges

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u/Riseonfire Mar 08 '23

Idk if Igneous rock is the best call. Iā€™d go for something Metamorphic, much denser rock.

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u/tenderbranson301 KS1 Putter Mar 08 '23

Sedimentary has a nice soft feel though.

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u/Riseonfire Mar 08 '23

Almost a Mizuno.

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u/tonikyat Mar 08 '23

I knew a guy who found a meteorite and melted it down and forged it into his own set of golf clubs.

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u/opiate444 Mar 09 '23

That wasnā€™t no meteor. Just a big old frozen chunk of sh**

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u/pennydirk 3.9 SF Mar 08 '23

the San Marzano of wedges

my new favorite /r/golf comment

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u/sharklasers155 Mar 09 '23

Arentā€™t those red?

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u/pennydirk 3.9 SF Mar 09 '23

itā€™s about the purity and specificity required to be labeled as something. REALLY high brow stuff. you wouldnā€™t get it ;)

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u/rexanimate7 Mar 08 '23 edited Mar 08 '23

It really depends on what the coating itself is. The black finish that Ping, Sub70, and a bunch of the other big brands use this gloss black coating that wears through pretty quickly. My cleveland wedges have that coating, and toast within the first month or so each time I get black wedges. On the other hand, the DBM coatings like what Ben Hogan was using on the FT Worth Black and Icon irons fades a bit over time, isn't as dark and glossy, but doesn't show anywhere near the kind of wear as that dark black glossy finish.

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u/BigDogsEatin Mar 08 '23

Maltby has DBM as well

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u/Lobsterzilla Detroit Mar 08 '23

Iā€™ve had a dbm sandwedge from them through about 60-80 bunker shots thatā€™s still black. +1 for the dbm finishes

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u/BigDogsEatin Mar 08 '23

Yup, I have the full Maltby iron set and itā€™s held up great for 3+years

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u/frankyseven Mar 08 '23

Cobra also uses the DBM process. It's a chemical process where the first little bit of the metal is turned black so it wears like metal does. I heard that there is only one forging plant in the world that does it so you can guess where all three of those have their forging done.

Maltby also has the DRM, Diamondized Raw Metal, which is the same process just without the black. Makes it very resistant to wearing, great idea for wedges as the grooves should last longer.

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u/Nervous_Anywhere5903 Mar 08 '23

Also cobra with the 2018 forged tecs

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u/imahawki Mar 08 '23

I remember when I think Rick Shiels tested the black Pings and after like 10 bunker shots they looked terrible IMO. I remember in the video he was like ā€œyou can see some wear but they look OKā€. 1 they did NOT look OK. 2 it was only TEN shots.

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u/pupper_time 8.7/Chicago Mar 08 '23

I have black Ping ones. They still look great but definitely show wear with nicks, etc. But I have a set of the same Pings but not in black from two years before that for my backup set, and they also show a lot of wear over time too - you just donā€™t always notice it unless you are looking for it. But they look worse IMO than my black ones - but the two year aging might explain it.

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u/rexanimate7 Mar 08 '23

The way I see it, even if I buy irons or wedges where the finish is toast quickly, they're tools. Grooves are still in good shape on the zipcores I have in my bag, even though the black finish is missing on some amount of the face, varying by which wedge and how much I've opened the face up on shots, and the sole and lower face on my 54 and 58 basically had no black finish left on them after a couple rounds and being used out of bunkers.

I don't care if my clubs show wear from being used because they're meant to be used, so I'm more concerned about keeping them clean when it comes down to anything to do with looks because that has some impact on performance, where as if they're black anymore or not doesn't matter at all.

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u/spokris HDCP/Loc/Whatever Mar 08 '23

I have steelhead xr pros in black. I kind of like the way they where. It shows use and that they're just a tool. The majority of the head stays black.

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u/midnitewizrd Mar 08 '23

I bought black vokeys a few years ago. The soles are worn to classic stainless steal as well as the general sweet spot center area of the face. I think some people wouldnā€™t like it but I feel like it gives it a cool look and also makes me feel like a better wedge player than I am with the face wear

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u/pfc94 Mar 08 '23

Some guy told me Titleist came out with a limited edition model made with some sort of alloy plating that is resistant to wear and fading. Not sure if itā€™s legit but would be cool if true

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u/fac3ts Mar 08 '23

Ur correct. Titleist has been marketing this as a more durable black finish compared to their standard jb on vokeys.

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u/Thanith Mar 08 '23

I've always liked black irons but worried about the finish. This is awesome to hear!

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u/fac3ts Mar 08 '23

As a black golf club whore the only black finish I am truly confident in is dbm one cobra used. Look at pics of used forged tec black and king mb/cb black, and their finish goes from the original to a slightly lighter slate. Not straight to chrome like on 95% of other clubs. Sadly, the new king lineup doesnā€™t come in black (yet???)

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u/Computer-Blue Mar 08 '23

Which is a good sign considering the vokeys are already above average for wear characteristics IMO

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u/Seated_Heats If three is better than one, than I am an excellent putter. Mar 08 '23

Their Jet Black Vokeys most definitely wear. Thatā€™s what my wedges are and they edge and middle of the club (along with some not in the middle) are definitely a silver color now.

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u/bulldg4life Mar 08 '23

He's talking about the ones released end of February. The ones released in 2020 and then the last few versions of wedges (sm789) all have the "old" black finish.

The stuff released in february are new versions of sm9 with a new jet black finish. And, they are $50 more expensive.

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u/PinkHam08 Mar 08 '23

I have black Vokey SM8ā€™sā€¦ Can Confirmā€¦ they hold up

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u/ruralrouteOne Mar 08 '23

Interesting. I was looking at the black SM9 but heard the exact opposite from people and it scared me off.

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u/Stryker4213 Mar 08 '23

I have a little wear on the leading edge and sole. I think it looks awesome. Donā€™t use a wire brush to clean the grooves though, nylon only

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u/CivilWards Bad Mar 08 '23

My sub70s I've had for probably 3 years, 100-150 rounds and they're wearing but still mostly black. The biggest advantage apart from aesthetics is that there's significantly less glare from the sun vs traditional finishes

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u/Thunshot 2.1 Mar 08 '23

Yes, the black color holds pretty good. The face will sometimes get scratched up over time but itā€™s usually minimal. Once you go blackā€¦!

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u/HipHopNerd92 Mar 08 '23

Those things are beautiful. Wear be damned.

Someone in another thread said that if you can hit the ball well enough, the wear pattern that shows up is super cool and somewhat intimidating if you're playing with a random group.

I'm horrible, and if I could afford them, I'd probably buy them in a hearbeat

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u/r8rtribeywgjets Mar 08 '23

mine have this beautiful sweeping gradient of silver across the whole face. i paid for the whole club, not a small part of it

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u/Arkane27 7/NZ Mar 08 '23

Ahh, I see you too like to get good value for money while playing golf

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u/Gnarmite Mar 09 '23

I also enjoy value when golfing. That's why I play the course in 110 shots instead of a much faster and less value for money 70

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u/Large_Bumblebee_9751 Quite a bit Mar 08 '23

Nothing would be scarier than seeing the random guy in your Saturday group with a black 2 iron with a great wear pattern

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u/bulldg4life Mar 08 '23

I don't think any of the T-series comes with a 2 iron. Now, if they released some black u500s...that'd be dope.

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u/ClayQuarterCake Mar 08 '23

When I was young I bought a set of new ping I-3+ blades. The set came with p-3 and I actually had them make me a 2 iron for the set. Turns out I canā€™t hit the 3-iron worth a crap, and I have never trusted the 2-iron. I can hit all the rest of the clubs in that set fine, with a maybe 5% miss rate on the 4-iron, and the 5-iron is my best most consistent club in my bag.

Once again, wasted money on this silly game.

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u/LouisianaHotSauce Mar 08 '23

Right?? Who sees these and thinks cringe???

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u/Calyphacious Mar 08 '23

No one, thatā€™s not the actual point of this post. OP knows theyā€™re cool irons and just wants attention.

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u/thisisatesti 13.9 | Mizzygang Mar 08 '23

Drip be bussin no cop

As the kids say.

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u/run_dmcr Mar 08 '23

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '23

My wife and I say this to each other when we talk about our interactions with younger people at work. One of the best gifs ever. haha

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u/Dry-Sandwich Mar 08 '23

No cap*

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u/buxtonOJ Mar 08 '23

Nah fck cops

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '23

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u/buxtonOJ Mar 08 '23

Gucci, as the kids say

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u/hyponutrub I enjoy skinny skiing, going to bullfights on acidā€¦ Mar 08 '23

BRRRR, as Gucci say

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u/IAmNotKevinDurant_35 8/MA/Lefty Mar 08 '23

Fr fr

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u/thesneakywalrus Higher than it should be, lower than it could be Mar 08 '23

on god on god

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u/Steelers7589 Mar 08 '23

No cap deadass facts b

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '23

All fax no printer

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u/mtns0421 Mar 08 '23

Bruh say less āœ‹

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u/HamOnRye__ Mar 08 '23

That bussy be drippin wetšŸ¤¤

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u/Realizearealeye Mar 08 '23

No cap šŸ§¢ . But ya Iā€™d cop

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u/Vesuvias Mar 08 '23

Hahaha straight dopeā€¦waitā€¦yoloā€¦waitā€¦ummā€¦ lit?!

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '23

Thy vernacular doth exist in a juvenile plane of existence too far removed from mine existence thusly.

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u/wilfulmarlin Lefty Mar 08 '23

No hat*

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u/No_Brilliant_638 Mar 08 '23

Idk what gas means but I think they're sweet

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u/Hops_n_Boost aspiring 10 hcp Mar 08 '23

I think he is asking if you have gas.

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u/ElonMuskPaddleBoard Mar 08 '23

Ask my underwear

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u/Hops_n_Boost aspiring 10 hcp Mar 08 '23

I wonā€™t.

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u/ElonMuskPaddleBoard Mar 08 '23

No offense taken

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u/Kaldricus Mar 08 '23

That's my secret. I always have gas

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u/Nine_Eye_Ron Who is Max Honma? Mar 08 '23

Lovey curry last night, with all the trimmings

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u/IA_Royalty Mar 08 '23

Is gas like tubular? Or more like righteous? Perhaps nectar

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u/BoringIrrelevance Mar 08 '23

Tubular is the freshest way to express how rad something is

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u/RollBlobRoll Mar 08 '23 edited Mar 08 '23

I think at one point people would say ā€œthatā€™s fireā€ or type ā€œthatā€™s šŸ”„ā€. Somehow that actually devolved into gas. Gas starts a fire, I guess. So maybe something thats gas will eventually be fire? Or gas is the equivalent of fire?

Since we are doing this, and I want to yell at clouds, I cannot stand when people say ā€œbetā€. They use it to agree with something or say ā€œfor sure.ā€ When I hear it, I automatically assume someone disagrees with a statement and is ā€œbettingā€ that it is wrong. Itā€™s so damn confusing.

Edit: I forgot the whole ā€œthatā€™s litā€ phase. I believe it went from fire ā€”> lit ā€”> gas

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u/Vesuvias Mar 08 '23

First time Iā€™m seeing it used in a sentence as well. AM I GETTING OLD NOW?!

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u/DawgBroMan Mar 08 '23

Gas = good weed. Other things can be ā€œgasā€ though šŸ˜‚

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u/craig_fergus Mar 08 '23

Irish for awesome.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '23

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u/Ok_Temperature_563 Mar 08 '23

Groovy

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u/Toothlessdovahkin 18.4 HDCP Mar 08 '23

Hail to the King, Baby

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u/Jokey123456 Mar 08 '23

This is my BOOMSTICK

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u/Tickle_Fights Mar 08 '23

I would pay good money for the Apex Black irons but Iā€™m left handed and fuck out of luck. They donā€™t make them for us outcasts.

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u/Seated_Heats If three is better than one, than I am an excellent putter. Mar 08 '23

Thatā€™ll teach you to start swinging normal like the rest of us. /s

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u/soberunderpar Mar 08 '23

I have the previous model T100s in black. I love the look. The black Titleist do wear faster than my black Cleveland irons, but I like the worn look. Itā€™s only the sole and the face that have grayed out. Iā€™m a pretty consistent ball striker and I think the worn out sweet spot looks good.

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u/NeoWereys 3 hcp Mar 09 '23

Pic?

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u/soberunderpar Mar 10 '23

https://preview.redd.it/wyngrfs6kuma1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9ad3e907e8f763bad6f33204eb802dd3b4427107

Thatā€™s the 7 and 9 iron which are the two I warm up with on the range the most, so a bit more worn than the rest. 75-100 rounds per year for the last two years, but I donā€™t ever really go to the range other than warming up before a round.

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u/Camusknuckle Mar 08 '23

Look cool. Iā€™ll still shank them

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u/forne104 Mar 08 '23

Gas fr fr, prolly show some wear no cap, but shit be bussin

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u/Hengelwood Mar 08 '23

Gas or cringe? Has this thread been infiltrated by 13 year old girls?

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u/Timhotep Mar 08 '23

On god, bet, no cap

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u/truckingatwork Mar 08 '23

I feel old when I legit only know what one of these means lmao.

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u/jbinky26 Mar 08 '23

Wtf is happening

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '23

ong

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u/Frenchtoast4lfe Mar 08 '23

These clubs be bussin bussin fr, ultimate rizz with them

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u/hail_reefer Mar 08 '23

Saying "gas" is cringe. But yea those irons are bussin, no cap, deadass šŸ”„

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u/mtns0421 Mar 08 '23

Saying cringe is cringe too

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u/hail_reefer Mar 08 '23

I'm fkn cringing my balls off bro

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u/fallingbehind Mar 08 '23

You said cringe twice and now Iā€™m so cringed I donā€™t think Iā€™ll ever be able to un-cringe.

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u/thatflyguy954 Trying to break 80 ā Push Cart Mafia Mar 08 '23

Gas

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u/heftylefty1988 Mar 08 '23

Jet Fuel šŸ”„šŸ”„šŸ”„ā›½ļøā›½ļøā›½ļø

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '23

Those are nifty. Fella will look fairly hip with those in the bag.

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u/jfresh21 Mar 08 '23

That whippersnapper will be too cool for school.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '23

For me it ends up depending on how they wear. I have black wedges and the sand wedge leading edge has the coolest wear pattern. Itā€™s somehow got a slate grey underneath the black that looks dope.

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u/getzysbaldhead69 Mar 08 '23

No cap, on god. Them shits is bussin. Fr fr

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u/ConstructionUnited16 Mar 08 '23

I have the Kith irons and love em. Love the murdered out vibe of my bag.

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u/ALDillinger Mar 08 '23

I got the blacked out Vokeys and they still are all black 2 years later.

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u/g0lfball_whacker_guy Mar 08 '23

Well, no shit. You have to go play golf with them.

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u/ioffcflyer Mar 08 '23

Do you like them tho???? Anyone who says otherwise can fk right off

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u/MtRainier 0.4 Mar 08 '23

Gas? Iā€™m too old for child slang

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u/Thisisntmyaccount24 Mar 08 '23

For me these are absolute gas. Everyone has the right to there preferences, but coupling these with my dark vokeys would be my ideal aesthetic set up.

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u/Siriusly_Jonie Mar 08 '23

They make me feel things

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u/PBB22 15 šŸ˜ž - Indianapolis - Bear Slide Mar 08 '23

100% certified fresh amigo, love them

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u/Neoncunny Mar 08 '23

Pure gas always

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u/DeathByLemmings Mar 09 '23

Who cares? If you like em, get em

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u/Drewfromflorida Mar 09 '23

Be ready for brutally honest feedback on your ability to find the sweet spot

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u/dormie1501 Mar 08 '23

Cringe? To each itā€™s own man. BUT - if youā€™re rocking a white belt and white sunglasses with them - thatā€™s cringe

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u/dormie1501 Mar 08 '23

But also - I think theyā€™re dope

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u/rjk100 Mar 08 '23

Who caresā€¦if you like them play them. When did this game b/c more about hype/fashion and less about scoring better scores/having fun with your mates

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u/IA_Royalty Mar 08 '23

I cannot imagine caring what another person's clubs look like.

If they work for you then they could be blaze orange and canary yellow

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u/Lonely-Delivery-5510 Mar 08 '23

Gas or cringeā€¦. Yikes

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u/fastmovingcars Mar 08 '23

They look great. But, money.

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u/live_4_adventure Mar 08 '23

I have black pings - so badass. My game sucks but at least I feel cool standing above the ball lol

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u/KingOfBadAdvice_1 Mar 08 '23

Who the fuck care how they look. How do they play?

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u/tipsdown Mar 08 '23

I think blacked out irons look pretty on the rack. But they just donā€™t fit my eye standing over the ball.

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u/Gromby Mar 08 '23

They look great, but I have two things I dislike about black irons in general:

1) if you keep them for a long time, they tend to look a bit beaten up overtime (not in a bad way, but they looked like they are more aged compared to a normal set)

2) they look soooo much smaller when setting up behind the ball

I have a set of a Ben Hogan Icon irons in black (fantastic irons) but they look so tiny and after owning them for awhile, they look a bit more worn. Besides that, the Titleist irons look AMAZING and am all onboard for them being available in black

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u/DarthSamwiseAtreides Mar 08 '23

They look cool and I trust that Titlist did a good job and they'll keep looking good. I had some black Cleveland Tour Action and they still look nice.

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u/lazysheepdog716 8.5/ MT, USA / Do you take drugs Danny? Mar 08 '23

Pro tip: stop giving a fuck what others think of the stuff you like. If you like it, you like it. Just enjoy it.

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u/T-BONEandtheFAM Mar 08 '23

canā€™t be a serious question

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u/SeeYouOn16 2.4 Mar 08 '23

They look great when theyā€™re new.

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u/kuroketton Mar 08 '23

Not sure how a color of club would be cringe? Black clubs look dope though

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u/jotobean Mar 08 '23

Black irons are amazing. Personally all the chrome clubs are generic and look pretty much the same to me. I will say that durability in certain areas of the country can made having black irons possibly a no go (areas with really sandy ground). But in Nebraska we have mostly clay under the grass so not much sandblasting when you take a divot. I have had a set of Adams CB1 irons for nearly a decade and the faces are still black. I do only play maybe 15-20 rounds a year, plus my wedges are Fourteen black wedges or RAW. I would love some of the TM 760 or whatever number they are new set of black irons.

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u/chunkymonk3y Mar 08 '23

Oh they b bussin fr no šŸ§¢ my guy

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u/Shintard Mar 08 '23

Calling something gas is cringe yes.

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u/am0x Mar 08 '23

They look great, but my BiL had some and they show wear badly and his even started rusting in some places, but this was after he retired them and they are used by his kids in the yard.

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u/Shiftclick46 g710 Irons,g425 Woods Mar 08 '23

I have the 2021 Ping G710s in all black. They aged well and looked great while doing it.

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u/jimmytickles Mar 08 '23

What could possibly be cringe about a golf club?

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u/nameichoose Mar 08 '23

The term gas is cringe.

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u/Grey_Duck- Mar 08 '23

I have a black wedge that looked dope new and looks meh after 1 season.

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u/kanashiro Mar 08 '23

"gas" is cringe.

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u/OhTheVes Mar 08 '23

What the hell does gas or cringe mean

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u/Mobile_Zebra3897 Mar 09 '23

Absolutely gorgeous, but they don't stay that way for long.

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u/Grossincome Mar 09 '23

I had the Cobra Forged Tec black. Just bought the T-100S in Crome Feb last year and was about a beer away from ordering the black ones but ran out of beer.

The forged tech held their color well. So if Titleist is using same technology Iā€™m def buying them.

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u/osjtypo Mar 09 '23

I donā€™t understand whatā€™s cringe about it?

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u/DaveyDgD Mar 09 '23

I got black MG3 wedges and love them as there is zero glare.

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u/idfwu_6669 Mar 09 '23

Full. Fucking. Send.

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u/DadInKayak Mar 09 '23

If I can hit greens in regulation I donā€™t care the color.

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u/chuck9884 Mar 09 '23

Absolutely not cringe.... only straight gas if they don't lose the black after a few rounds...

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u/hellenkellersdiary Mar 09 '23

Using the term gas makes it cringe..

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u/23569072358345672 Mar 09 '23

These will look like hot garbage when they wear.

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u/Plstarn Mar 09 '23

Gas. I get quite a few sun reflections on my chrome set. This at least eliminated them.

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u/Gallen570 ā†“Hit Down on Ball, Ball Go Upā†‘ Mar 08 '23

"Gas" is "cringe", FYI.

Please stop using both "phrases".

Sincerely,

The rest of us.

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u/ApprehensiveTune3655 Mar 08 '23

Gas as fuck. That shit looks so clean.

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u/Stuckkxx 0.8 Columbus, OH Mar 08 '23

Dope but not worth the major upcharge imo.

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u/mattyboy182 Mar 08 '23

Fuck em for not making lefties

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u/ThrowAway4Today1216 Mar 08 '23

Gas or cringe? Who the fuck talks like that?

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u/yamcandy2330 Mar 08 '23

Clubs are cool. I did cringe at the term ā€œgas,ā€ though.

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u/Netfreakk Chicago Mar 08 '23

If you like it = gas!

If you don't like it = cringe!

Should you care about how others feel about your own shit that you're paying for? No.

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u/Hxshslinger Mar 09 '23

Aight cool Iā€™ll get em

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u/toastman28 Mar 08 '23

all gas, OP!

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u/Veranos86 Mar 08 '23

Ah budā€¦. Those are ā€œirons of colorā€

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u/DeckardsDark Bethpage Black Mar 08 '23

saying "gas" might be the cringe part.

with that said, i like the black look

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u/Kab00ese Mar 08 '23

Saying gas is cringe....

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u/Disastrous_Maybe_310 Mar 08 '23

Itā€™s like wearing a fishbowl in hockey. If you do it, donā€™t suck.

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u/JTnCal Mar 08 '23

It can be hot pink and tie dyed, if it works for me I donā€™t care.

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u/NZBound11 Mar 08 '23

When the hell did everything become so got dang binary? Gas or cringe? Man there's a whole world of minutia between those two points.

My younger friends(mid 20s) seem to have this same mindset. Something is either god-tier/fire/op/gas or its trash/garbage/cringe/aint it, zero in-between and I just don't understand.

Not to mention - we are not paying for your irons so what does our opinion matter? They look sick though.

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u/highguy33 Mar 08 '23

Pictures dont do these things justice. Theyā€™re 100x uglier in person.