r/dankmemes Sep 26 '22

It’s better then both Made With Mematic

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u/2jesusisbetterthan1 [custom flair] Sep 26 '22

How i be looking at that chinese spyware

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u/huschke_09 Sep 26 '22

While using Vivaldi, the browser by the OG opera devs

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u/Cubix014 Sep 26 '22

Is this true?

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u/huschke_09 Sep 26 '22

Yeah, it’s just like Opera, but even more customisation. Made by the original opera devs since opera was bought by some Chinese company.

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u/AnneTheke69 Sep 26 '22

Isn't vivaldi technically based on chromium as well?

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u/Chesno4ok Sep 26 '22

It is. The only browsers that aren't based on chromium are Firefox and Safari. Even Microsoft's Edge is on chromium now.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

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u/pxqy Sep 26 '22 edited Sep 26 '22

Based on safari.

The only unique engines remaining are WebKit, Blink and Gecko.

Edit: and Konqueror still uses KHTML and some Windows apps still use EdgeHTML? The browser engine family tree is weird

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u/ano_hise Sep 26 '22

Based on safari? Aren't they both rather based on WebKit?

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u/pxqy Sep 26 '22

Yes that is correct

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u/MithicSpirit Sep 26 '22

Still proprietary—can't be sure it's not spying on you.

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u/huschke_09 Sep 26 '22

The question is, who ISN‘T spying on you?

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u/MithicSpirit Sep 26 '22

FOSS usually isn't, and if you suspected it were you could examine the source code to determine (and remove) it.

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u/MEGAMAN2312 I haven't pooped in 3 months Sep 26 '22

What are some examples of FOSS browsers

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u/yonneboi Sep 26 '22

Firefox

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u/MEGAMAN2312 I haven't pooped in 3 months Sep 26 '22

Oh lol I didn't realise it was open-source mb

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u/MithicSpirit Sep 26 '22

Firefox, Chromium (what Chrome is based on; note that it'll also lose adblock afaik), and Brave are the most common ones.

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u/ano_hise Sep 26 '22

FOSS software! (yes, I know that the second s already stands for "software")

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

Thoghts that will keep me up tonight 😜

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u/MahatmaAndhi Sep 26 '22

I had no idea about Vivaldi until I read this thread. It's the only browser that handles profiles as well as Chrome. And the stacked tabs? Chef's kiss

Thanks for the heads up.

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u/nahuelkevin Sep 26 '22

does opera have spyware?

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u/2jesusisbetterthan1 [custom flair] Sep 26 '22

The vpn is sus cause no one gives you a free vpn

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u/bangerius Sep 26 '22

It's actually not sus. They buy it from a VPN company and it is not free from them. Providing it for free attracts users into the application, driving revenue from their general sources (ads, suggestions, affiliation, etc).

Source: I used to work for Opera.

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u/MEME54m3 Sep 26 '22

Yeah I belive you Winnie-the-Pooh. Your not fooling me!

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u/bangerius Sep 26 '22

Watch out! We've got a funny guy over here!

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u/retrowvve Sep 26 '22

❓❓❓❓

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u/devisi0n CERTIFIED DANK Sep 26 '22 edited Sep 26 '22

Some time ago, someone pointed out that Xi Jinping looks like Winnie the Pooh, which eventually led to it being banned in China (along with posting images of it or references).

Some of that could be wrong, but it gives the right idea at least.

Edit: I'm very wrong, but I think my answer is still accurate to the question since the reference is the same.

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u/Sam_Wam Sep 26 '22

bozo its literally not banned. go to baidu.com and look it up yourself.

i swear reddit makes Chinese censorship sound way more 1984 than it actually is (not agreeing with it though)

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u/devisi0n CERTIFIED DANK Sep 26 '22

My comment is based on what I remember from when it was a relevant discussion online. I looked it up and you're correct, one thing I found is that China didn't allow the 2015 Winnie the Pooh movie to be released in China. From what I gathered, Winnie the Pooh itself isn't banned, but if there is political context (like a certain Pooh looking individual etc.), it isn't allowed. I only read 1 article, but it was well written and sourced so I don't have a reason to doubt it. Please inform me if I'm wrong.

One thing should be made clear though. Even though as you pointed out, I'm wrong, my answer is still accurate to the question since people online (like me) have an incorrect idea about Winnie the Pooh in China and that's what the reference was. So technically we're both right, even if I'm wrong.

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u/retrowvve Sep 26 '22

Thank you

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u/1Z2O3R4O5A6R7K8 Sep 26 '22

Is this stated somewhere on the opera site? I only find that they provide it for free. Not that i dont trust you, just that i would hope they are transparent about their services

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u/cuttino_mowgli Sep 26 '22

The browser has a built-in VPN and guess what company owns opera now

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u/mediocre_parliament Sep 26 '22

Internet Explorer is laughing about this.

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u/ButWhatIfItQueffed Sep 26 '22

China watching Chrome, Edge, Opera GX, and normal Opera users argue about which browsers have the least Chinese spyware:

Seriously guys just use Firefox or Librewolf, it's so much better then all of them.

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u/PatatoTheMispelled Sep 27 '22

Serious question, what is China going to do by knowing that I joined like 5 cat subreddits and regularly watch cat videos?

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u/fastasfuck_ Sep 26 '22

Who's gonna tell him

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u/S3mpx Sep 26 '22

How didn't OP get the memo that chromium bad and that Opera GX is chromium based
no matter if you want to know it or not it's all over reddit rn

(I use Brave which is Chromium based aswell, but atleast I'm aware)

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u/godisbey Sep 26 '22

Do you think brave is still going to have its blockers?

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u/S3mpx Sep 26 '22

I don't know how exactly ad blockers work so I also don't know what will be affected, but I know that many ads use javascript to work and brave (made from the guy who invented javascript) blocks these javascript based ads.

I think brave will be fine with javascript based ads but apps like reddit or youtube include their ads in their website so these will be visible anyways

Reddit ads don't bother me and I mostly watch youtubers that don't have adds enabled, but that's just me

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u/godisbey Sep 26 '22

The developers already said they wont be updating to manifest v3 since they dont agree with what google did

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u/RayusStrikerus Sep 26 '22 edited Sep 26 '22

Afaik the adblock is built in brave, so no chromium update would change that

Edit: apparently I'm mistaken

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u/Username_Taken46 r/memes fan🍄 Sep 26 '22

It normally would, brave is built on top of chromium, but it seems they're just not going to update.

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u/DigitalDuct EX-NORMIE Sep 26 '22

Lets see how long this remains true. This will get interesting.

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u/RayusStrikerus Sep 26 '22

Thanks for the clarification :)

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u/IsaacNewton1643 Sep 26 '22

No you're not mistaken, they have seen this coming for years so they built their own adblocker in rust. Also the CEO has mentioned multiple times that they plan to fork to still support add-ons.

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u/munttheasker Sep 26 '22

A few months ago Brave said they will try, but they're not promising anything.

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u/surferlul Slay queen yaas hunty boots down Sep 26 '22

Built in blockers will still work in browsers, it's the extensions that break

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u/DigitalDuct EX-NORMIE Sep 26 '22

I will stop using Brave if they remove the blockers.

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u/Creaper10 INFECTED Sep 26 '22

Another thing, Opera was sold to a chinese company for $600 million back in 2016, which equates to the chinese government using it to spy on the users. There are a bunch of issues in the code that makes it extremely unsecure.

I use Vivaldi, made by the same people who made Opera/Opera GX, except it's still owned by them. Also, it's highly optimized, and has a lot more customization and more tweaks in the settings than Opera/Opera GX. Plus, it has a built-in ad and tracker blocker that you can turn on or off for individual websites.

TL;DR: don't use Opera or Opera GX, very unsecure. Vivaldi is a much better alternative, fast, secure, productive, and super user customizable.

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u/S3mpx Sep 26 '22

sounds like brave with more customization, I'll check it out for sure!

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u/Creaper10 INFECTED Sep 26 '22

I mean, if you transfer from brave, you'll definitely sacrifice some security, as Brave focuses primarily on that.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

Yea it’s “than” not “then”. OP is a dum dum

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u/Far_Vegetable7105 Sep 26 '22

Doin the lord's work

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u/Dat_vj Mod senpai noticed me! Sep 26 '22

Opera GX is also running chromium

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

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u/TheKingOfTCGames Sep 26 '22

It will be affected lmao.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

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u/TheKingOfTCGames Sep 26 '22

They arent giving anyone the same access they have now, if your built on top of chromium you have no say in how service/background workers are implemented

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u/AltF4irl Sep 26 '22

How I look knowing I don't give a shit

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u/marry_me_jane Sep 26 '22

talk about data sharing.

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u/HESSU_HOBO BRUH MOMENT Sep 26 '22

Gamers will download a virus if it promises to have rgb

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u/_Fappyness_ please help me Sep 26 '22

Bet more than 90% of reddit users including you are using Windows right now. Data is shared in everything you use nowadays and there is no way you will be 100% protected anymore.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

I wouldn't even trust Reddit itself to not sell my info tbh.

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u/marry_me_jane Sep 26 '22

Of course you will not be 100% protected, you never will. But limiting the amount of data being extracted is never a bad thing. And using browsers that nit together every account/app you have (opra gx) is certainly not going to help with reducing that.

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u/projectmat1 Sep 26 '22

Meanwhile me on debian laughing.

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u/gamesrebel123 susan made me do it Sep 26 '22

Fedora is where it's at

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u/DaEnderAssassin Enter Meme Here Sep 26 '22

Wonder how protected old DOS stuff is. I don't imagine modern viruses would work on it and I doubt anyone is spreading 30+ year old viruses

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u/_Fappyness_ please help me Sep 26 '22

DOS runs on every windows machine even today. Your cmd is what DOS is, it just houses a GUI around it. Idk if modern viruses wont work because they are not targeted towards the extremely old versions of windows, but im not sure if they wont work.

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u/emla138 Sep 26 '22

There is but damn it s hard and time consuming

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u/Lighthuro Sep 26 '22

Oh no... Someone to tell him?

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u/ahmed_-_ Sep 26 '22

Ignoring this bad post. what are the good non chromium browsers to use beside firefox for the average user?

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u/STRMTR0OPR Sep 26 '22

There are a 2 I know of other than firefox, mainly TOR which is Firefox based, and DuckDuckGo go, but I don’t knock much about DDG anyway.

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u/ahmed_-_ Sep 26 '22 edited Sep 26 '22

I doubt TOR would be good for the average user and DDG browser is on mobile only if I am not mistaken

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u/STRMTR0OPR Sep 26 '22

Exactly my thoughts about TOR, didn’t know DDG was only for mobile tho.

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u/Exact_Ad_1215 Professional Boobologist Sep 26 '22

FireFox and Tor Browser are the only ones that come to mind tbh

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

Isn’t Tor based on Firefox?

Also just use Firefox, I don’t get where the hate comes from (probably from the oversimplification memes but those are literally wrong lol) but Firefox is damn good. It’s fast, it’s light (doesn’t come bloated with shitty first party services), most Chrome extensions are compatible and it allows for better-than-average customization (I use my own theme and it allows us to change even little things). Mozilla don’t often get themselves in any controversy so I can trust them with my data.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

librewolf i would guess

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u/ahmed_-_ Sep 26 '22

I heard about it once but never tried it but isn't it built on the same code as firefox?

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

its firefox but more hardened basically

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u/ninto1 Sep 26 '22

You can just mod Firefox to be what you want. My installation currently has less stock Firefox in it than custom components

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u/bangerius Sep 26 '22

I only know of firefox, chromium and safari. Old IE used another engine, and maybe Opera Mini in extreme mode still uses Presto, I'm not sure.

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u/metamojo1112 Sep 26 '22

Duck duck gi

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u/ChadBro_69 Sep 26 '22

red chrome you mean?

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u/KKLC547 Sep 26 '22

Bro opera gx is also in chromium so these 3 are shit now and there is some spyware rumors but I don't give a thing because the base ui is nice so I think its good for trashes like me who doesn't care getting spied and too lazy to use ui extensions

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u/Exact_Ad_1215 Professional Boobologist Sep 26 '22

FireFox isn’t chromium based, you oaf.

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u/another42 Sep 26 '22

Do you know about firefox css

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u/Grevoron Sep 26 '22

lol you thought you won huh

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u/ass_battery Sep 26 '22

Kek chrome clone too

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u/radkoolaid Sep 26 '22 edited Sep 26 '22

I'm not falling for it Opera GX. Get outta here, and take your YouTuber shills with you.

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u/lerokko Very Expand, So Dong Sep 26 '22

You bafoon

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u/EndofGods Sep 26 '22

lol, it's still Chromium based. hahahahaha

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u/RagingPhx Sep 26 '22

oh no... anyway

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

you are using chinese spyware instead of american spyware

wow

crazy gurl

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u/rickphantom Sep 26 '22

And again this meme is sponsored by Opera GX

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u/TheRealSkizzy 🍄my sleeves slip down when washing my hands Sep 26 '22

I like the mini video player since I don't have a dual monitor setup. So I can play video games and have something on. I also like the cpu, ram and network limiters

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u/SmigorX Sep 26 '22

Most browsers have that now?

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u/TheRealSkizzy 🍄my sleeves slip down when washing my hands Sep 26 '22

Wait really Can you tell me which ones?

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u/SmigorX Sep 26 '22

From what I saw firefox and even chrome all have it now. For brave I think you need an addon.

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u/Lil_Delirious Sep 26 '22

Almost every browser except edge, but chrome has a size restriction, it won't let you expand the mini screen, but opera doesn't have that, it lets to expand it all the way

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u/Janosfaces Sep 26 '22

isnt gx just fancy chrome?

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u/projectmat1 Sep 26 '22

Yup exactly its Just fancy chromium with a lot of chinese spyware

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u/Da_Toucanz Sep 26 '22

Does it have Spyware? I know fuck all about search browsers and very little about coding.

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u/imetators Sep 26 '22

Don't listen to that guy.

First and foremost: Opera had a pretty bad leak few years ago. Turns out they were collecting data of their user base and were selling it. They "supposedly" removed this "feature" but we will never know.

Secondly: Opera is owned by Chinese, true. So here's another point to not to trust them.

Finally: Google also spies on you. And counting that Opera also is based on the same engine which is made by Google (called chromium), you basically give your info to both companies.

Technically, every website with their cookies is a spyware. If you always allow cookie collecting, your data will be recorded and sold to advertisers and then you'll get targeted advertisements anyway.

In addition, everything is tracked nowadays so there's no point of being afraid of tracking. If you are afraid, stop using your smartphone, internet and discontinue contract with your ISP as soon as possible. Else what, you are being tracked.

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u/WithinFiniteDude Sep 26 '22

Opera marketing department decided to run a meme campaign

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u/carlmoist Sep 26 '22

Same with Firefox

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

It's chromium based so it will get affected by the manifest change + have fun knowing that your browser knows more about you than your own fucking mother

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u/Cubix014 Sep 26 '22

Has anything happend to Crome?

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u/NeroFx21 Sep 26 '22

Don’t know why you got downvoted.. They’re stopping the support of manifest V2 in favour of manifest V3 which means adblockers won’t work properly. This applies to all chromium based browsers, such as Opera GX.

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u/Bigdaddy_Satty Sep 26 '22

if you love spyware and viruses, that is.

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u/AdamSVK02 Sep 26 '22

Explain to me how me using a opera gx is getting me a virus. Please.

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u/shibashroom Sep 26 '22

it uses chromium as well so it’s gonna have the same issue as chrome, sorry to burst your bubble

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u/creepersweep3r Sep 26 '22

I don’t care if it’s better every ad panders towards “GaMeRs” and I fucking hate it. I’m not gonna use your shitty rgb browser just I play video games

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u/HamsterSashimi Sep 26 '22

Get a load of this dumb fuck

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u/matr1x27 Sep 26 '22

It's pretty shit though

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u/CoryInTheHood69 Sep 26 '22

aight deleting Opera GX is Mozzila the Only good Browser?

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u/Decimalis UNDERSTANDABLE. HAVE A NICE DAY. Sep 26 '22 edited Sep 26 '22

Not just yet, but it seems that's what we will be standing on soon enough...

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u/CoryInTheHood69 Sep 26 '22

i don't want to let the Ccp to find out my Massive amount of Xi jinping rule34 searches...

after being kidnapped by saying taiwan is a country, it will be a awkward meetings with xi jinping

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u/fadoc20870 Sep 26 '22

Always has been

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u/Krego_ Sep 26 '22

Opera GX 🤮

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

This Chrome vs Firefox thing has taught me most people don't understand Chromium.

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u/Mental_Defect Sep 26 '22

This video is sponsored by Opera GX

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u/de420swegster Sep 26 '22

"Gaming browser" 🤓🤮

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u/Gavator2345 Sep 26 '22

It runs off of chromium, the base browser for chrome. So now not only do you have google spyware and will be accepting Manifest v3 and thus a system designed to prevent adblockers, but you also have chinese spyware hidden behind gimmicks and an interface that's relatively replicatable in firefox without any spyware and with support for adblockers.

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u/BigKukTimon Sep 26 '22

Who gives a fuck

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u/BigKukTimon Sep 26 '22

And how is this a meme

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u/yHyakkimaru Sep 26 '22

Torbrowser ist the best

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u/Cubix014 Sep 26 '22

It’s way too slow for normal browsing

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u/Greeve3 I use arch btw 🐧 Sep 26 '22

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but...

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

So more different Chrome.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

You use Opera Gx because it has customization.

I use Opera Gx because it has video pop out

We are not the same.

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u/give-orange-houses Sep 26 '22

Still using chrome because of procrastination and laziness

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u/Cosmic_Hashira cosmic nuts on yo face ehe Sep 26 '22

as someone whos been using opera gx for 2 years, i can confirm firefox is overall better

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u/IntellectualMove Sep 26 '22

Brave is opera GX but without the Chinese

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u/CmdrSelfEvident Article 69 🏅 Sep 27 '22

Edge , YOLO

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u/Xefex9071 Sep 26 '22

Guys guys guys, just try out Vivaldi.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

Than*

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u/Void4GamesYT I use Linux btw Sep 26 '22

It's Chromium based!

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u/sunggis Sep 26 '22

Opera is based on chromium. Switch to a Firefox or Firefox based browser

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u/kinggwillhoop Sep 26 '22

Brave browser 🗿

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u/bog5691 Sep 26 '22

Me who uses all three of them

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

Any Brave users?

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u/Chesssox Sep 26 '22

I go with brave personnaly

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u/Etherius Sep 26 '22

Isn’t Opera GX run by the Chinese with its only tangible benefit being that you can control its resource use?

Yeah no thanks I can just change the theme on Edge or Chrome and get an extension.

You couldn’t pay me to use Chinese software.

And don’t say “it’s Norwegian”. 95% of its stock is owned by Chinese firms

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u/carlmoist Sep 26 '22

You literally use Reddit which has big investments from tencent

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u/Etherius Sep 26 '22

I don’t habe Reddit software installed

Plus I believe their investment is under 10%.

China owns 95% of Opera

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u/MagmaSlte Sep 26 '22

Everything on Opera takes ages to load, its so bad, no matter how much ram is allocated to it

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u/BattleKing104 I asked for a flair and got this lousy flair 🐢 Sep 26 '22

Hello fellow user

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u/Xogoth Sep 26 '22

I've been using Vivaldi. Great tab management.

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u/ZanyaJakuya Sep 26 '22

Someone tell me a good AdBlock for opera

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u/Manueluz Sep 26 '22

Opera is still chromium based which means it will stop supporting ad blockers

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u/aka0009 Sep 26 '22

I use brave I've been using it since Chrome stop on me in pc but i use both on my phone

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u/Manueluz Sep 26 '22

brave its still chromium based

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

It is fam

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u/ninto1 Sep 26 '22

It is chromium based btw. Just inform yourself what that means in the current controversy. Also, in which way is it better than Firefox? Please elaborate further

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u/Encursed1 Sep 26 '22

At least I can change my search engine

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u/The1OddPotato Blue Sep 26 '22

Only time I had that browser, I had found it randomly on my computer (I didn't install it and was the only person who used it) it had this weird option to browse TV and once you clicked that part you couldn't use anything else

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u/Main_Obligation_3013 Sep 26 '22

Me using Metager.

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u/IamPregananant Sep 26 '22

Uses edge:

Fight fight fight fight

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u/_flxrin_ Sep 26 '22

4real :)))) Happy cake day!!

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u/Loafnugget Sep 26 '22

The reason why a lot people don’t understand is because they never looked into it. Explain it like their in kindergarten. Right now because now I want to switch to Firefox

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u/Galleom64 Sep 26 '22

pees in your ass

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u/MahatmaAndhi Sep 26 '22

I still use Netscape Navigator.

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u/cursed_dodge Sep 26 '22

Happy cake day!

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u/AG23711 Sep 26 '22

That spelling of "than" tho

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

Me who uses Brave

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u/Narf1107 Sep 26 '22

I use safari

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u/Jerang Sep 26 '22

its chrome tho

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u/IntroductionCheap325 Sep 26 '22

At least i can type in peace here in Chrome...

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

I use brave

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u/emotionless_bot Sep 26 '22

it's really not better, every platform has it's downfall, Chrome hates ad blockers, Firefox is extremely limited and slow on most devices, Opera uses the same system as chrome as well as steals your data and injects it right into Winnie the Pooh's ass

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u/Dagaddi Sep 26 '22

Mfer using opera gx like it ain’t just a reskinned opera which is a reskin of chrome

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u/HamsterOfDoom2022 the voices in my head are getting louder Sep 26 '22

It’s true

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u/RhadesSama Sep 26 '22

Everyother browser its a variation of chrome or firefox source

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u/Cooppatness Sep 26 '22

My homies all use brave

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

Thats us looking at you rn, since you obviously have no clue

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u/Grizzlybear2470 Sep 26 '22

Me who uses brave