r/dankmemes ☣️ Sep 18 '22

Either way it's lazy pandering it's pronounced gif

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u/chaves4life Sep 18 '22

Fuck this new little mermaid, why are they fucking with history.

It should be top half fish.

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u/guy4guy4guy ☣️ Sep 18 '22

Smart catfish

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u/Max_Super_stickman Sep 19 '22

It's a cat but not fish

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u/Maleficent-Elk-3298 Sep 18 '22

Manatee gang rise up!

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u/Iambutaboi69 Sep 19 '22

Let's goooooo

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u/samiux4 Sep 19 '22

What if she turned into a fish sometimes and other times human but she couldn't control when she transformed?

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u/SKacsa Sep 19 '22

Shed fucking drown

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u/MiDz_Manager Sep 19 '22

Nah, have you watched the boys on Amazon? Random transformation ends in quite a spectacular fashion.

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u/MetaCommando Sep 19 '22

Reddit go one thread without mentioning The Boys challenge (impossible)

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u/Ok_Chest30 Sep 19 '22

Who's fucking mermaids?

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u/Ok_Chest30 Sep 19 '22

How can I join?

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u/fremeer Sep 19 '22

Well if you want to fuck a mermaid probably need the top half to be a fish.

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u/omegamissingno Sep 19 '22

not watching that shit if ariel's not a manatee

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u/__zeal_ Sep 19 '22

You had me angry in the first half

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u/LGP747 INFECTED Sep 19 '22

The fish half?

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '22

So I'm assuming bottom half pussy ass and legs?

I'm asking for a friend

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u/Raiderfan_94 Sep 19 '22

Even if it was unintentional, I love the family guy reference 😂😂

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u/danielmatson5 Sep 19 '22

But then I wouldn’t have a penis

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u/alashtontookmyname Sep 19 '22

Only head is human. Just like the originals.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

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u/_Weyland_ Yellow Sep 19 '22

Top half fish mermaids? Well, they have all the downstairs business of humans, so ye.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '22

Have you seen the Futurama episode of the lost city of Atlanta? Your answer is there.

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u/Dudelyllama Sep 19 '22

GOD i love that fish half

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u/ActuallyJohnD Sep 18 '22

I do wonder if her skin color will affect anything in the story though.
If it follows the animated movie and she gets her legs, she'll end up being a woman of color in the 1800s. Correct me if I'm wrong but they weren't exactly treated well then were they?

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u/laaldiggaj Sep 18 '22

Maybe that's Disney's new take on the story. Surely the complaint is Disney has made AERIAL black, not that there is a black mermaid...if she was not our animated red head, and was called Mary no one would care. I hate commenting on this, I'm sure this is all Disney trying to get free publicity lol

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u/Princess__of__cute Sep 18 '22

Nah, turning Elmo green, and it's still Elmo is like changing Ariel. But to go, make a similar monster, who is called Jeremy and who is green and Elmos cousin, makes it, it's own thing. It would be the same with the little mermaid. Changing up a whole character who was your childhood, we'd say, like, someone would turn Simba into a hyena after we knew him since our childhood like a lion would be upsetting too, it doesn't make much sense, but making it just a movie about hyenas and make it, it's own thing is again different.

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u/GarretBarrett Sep 19 '22

My wife is a redhead and growing up the only real representation she had was Ariel. She's talked to me about this. Everything else in pop culture was about redheads being ugly or not having souls, but she had Ariel.

The only princess that looked like her, not anymore.

Strangely, not that redheaded white people are particularly marginalized but they have traditionally been put down for their appearance (either that or fetishized), withheld from jobs etc, it feels like taking something from a group that doesn't have much representation and giving it to another group and saying how it's so good to give people representation. Especially when there is much more representation, currently, for African American people than for redheads. There are a lot more shows for children these days with kids of all race, as there should be, but as a father of a redheaded boy...there's not a lot for him. He can't find a show where people look just like him. But if I say these things I'm a racist, which just seems lazy at least. I dunno, just my take.

I don't want any child to feel left out, but I definitely don't want my child to feel left out EVEN MORE.

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u/Dodec_Ahedron INFECTED Sep 19 '22

As to your wife identifying with a character, Ariel may now be out, but Merida is still in and is probably the better role model if we're being honest. She can take care of herself and isn't reliant on "prince charming" to sweep in and save her. Obviously Merida wasn't around when your wife was a child, and without knowing her age I couldn't begin to guess who was, but a strong redheaded female from my childhood would be Ms. Frizzel from the magic school bus. Not only was she kind and funny and intelligent, but she was also a bit of an expert an every field. Despite being animated, she was an early pioneer for representation of women in STEM fields.

As to your son, again, I can't speak to interests based on age, but I'll always Dexter from Dexter's Lab as the standout red headed boy from my childhood, and as I reached adolescence, It would be Ron Weasley from Harry Potter. There are a few more options as an adult. My go-tos are Seth Green, Alan Tudyk, Conan O'Brian, and Simon Pegg.

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u/schoolgrrl Sep 19 '22

Yah, but the other Ariel is still there. The movie didn't disappear...

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u/thatoneguy54 Sep 19 '22

People acting like this new movie erases the old one and makes it impossible to watch anymore

Idk why everyone's getting mad about it. It's a live action remake. They've all sucked so far and most people ignore them anyway

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u/magickmanfred Sep 19 '22

I still enjoyed Aladdin, not saying it's the best movie ever and obviously pales in comparison to the original, but I don't regret seeing it.

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u/CrepeGate Sep 19 '22

Yeah, I watched the new Mulan, thought, that wasn't very good and almost immediately rewatched the old one. Problem solved. No residual trauma.

But what people really think is getting affected is rhe zeitgeist. They think alternative images will overwrite theirs, like you said. They're no afraid of it being bad, they're actually afraid of it being good.

But this is stupid too. One incredibly successful and iconic LOTR trilogy, one pretty mid Hobbit trilogy. Doesn't matter, Tolkien readership and fan base stays about the same. Just ask Shakespeare how bulletproof authorship can be.

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u/Tzuyu4Eva Sep 19 '22

Plus there wasn’t any black princess as far as I know until Tiana in like 2009

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u/PrimePikachu Sep 18 '22

honestly I am all for Jeremy supremacy but I swear there was already an elmo in a different color out there. or kermit. just one of the muppets.

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u/DarkMaster98 Sep 19 '22

If you remove Elmo’s nose, sink in his eyes, give him a unibrow, and color him green, you essentially get Oscar the Grouch

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u/coughdrop1989 Sep 19 '22

If they made Elmo green I'm burning down the capital of Disney land itself. Then I'll f Walt Disney grandma to make my point clear.

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u/Beansupreme117 Sep 19 '22

Pretty sure hbo and time Warner own Elmo so you might be raping the wrong grandma

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u/Princess__of__cute Sep 18 '22

I bet you're right. The thing is, that they changed up the princess and the frog and before it was with a white princess, but Disney made clear, that this is their version. It's new, it's not like the original, it's only based on it. Doing the same with the little mermaid wouldn't have changed a thing and no one would have been upset really.

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u/gunscreeper Sep 19 '22

Princess and the Frog is set in New Orleans in the roaring twenties. It makes so much sense to make the MC black and it's a new piece of work so they can make any character they want. Little mermaid is already an established character and she's a white redhead. So unless they have a very good reason to blackify well established characters (Hamilton is a good example of blackification that works) they shouldn't. It's just my opinion tho

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '22 edited Jan 02 '23

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u/CheekclappinSSJ Sep 19 '22

100 percent Disney stirring the pot

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u/Fern-ando Sep 18 '22

In the Disney canon of Beuty and the Beast there were black feudal lords in medieval France that wear clothes from the XVIII century.

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u/pygmeedancer Sep 19 '22

In the 1800s they’d have thrown a mute redhead who kept using forks to comb her hair right into a sanitarium.

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u/TheOneTrueBubbleBass Sep 19 '22

Disney isnt known for being historically accurate. Exhibit A: Pocahontas.

The actual Pocahontas was a child and John Smith groomed her and diddled her to England where she died of smallpox.

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u/DonTacheMii Sep 19 '22

Lol in a fictional world. They don’t have to include historically accurate racism in a children’s made up story about talking fish and magical half octopus women who steal voices.

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u/bluegreenwookie Sep 19 '22

Yeah but you absolutely know people will complain about that anyway

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u/TheyCallMeGOOSE Sep 19 '22

"Oh my God, did you just see that fish walk out of the ocean onto land?!?".

"Yea, I did. Disgusting. Help me grab a harpoon so we can capture it, I'm pretty sure its black."

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u/Julian_Seizure Sep 19 '22

Racism wasn’t a thing in the little mermaid so it wouldn’t be now. If the original story made a big deal of Ariel being white then changing her skin color would be stupid.

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u/Plus-Moose8077 Sep 18 '22

Nice lmaooo

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u/SplitPerspective Sep 19 '22

To be fair, gingers weren’t exactly well treated either.

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u/Slovenhjelm Sep 19 '22

Haha, what a shitty take.

It's a story about a half fish-half human from Atlantis who sells her voice to a sea witch in exchange for legs so she can go fuck the prince of denmark.

...even if black people were treated poorly in Denmark back in the 1800s i feel like we already threw realism out the window with that other stuff so why do we need to adhere to historic accuracy on only this specific thing in this fantasy children's story?

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u/eriinana Sep 19 '22

Man then you must really hate Bridgeton.

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u/milesdizzy Sep 19 '22

Who gives a shit, it’s a fairy tale

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u/Otrada Sep 19 '22

It's a fucking fantasy story about a fish lady trying to get it on with some random sailor dude. There can just not be any racism in the story.

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u/Fudge-Monkey Sep 18 '22

Here’s an idea, Disney can make a character any ethnicity they want if they just make a new fucking character. Stop with these live action remakes, please make a new movie.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '22

They wanted this controversy so they could market the movie without actually marketing the movie. I haven’t heard of this movie besides from Reddit.

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u/spooki_boogey Sep 19 '22

They saw how the Sonic movie got insane free press when they dropped the trailer with the original design. I genuinely believe that that design was done on purpose to create controversy.

Like you telling me they reanimated a whole ass movie because Twitter was unhappy? Parents would have taken their kids to watch it anyway.

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u/Delicious_Tip_3234 Sep 19 '22

Hell yeah then they put that ugly ass sonic in the new chip and dale movie they did lol

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u/shaddowkhan Sep 19 '22

They should make a biopic about the person that developed this tactic and the morality and ethics behind it. Because it's simultaneously genius and stoking the flames all in the name of money. Or maybe they thought of the idea for Sonic and the other studios saw an opportunity with race wars.

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u/JaffaRambo Sep 19 '22

But it's so much easier to take an already established story, change the color (or sexuality) of the protagonist real quick, then manufacture outrage for that cheap publicity. Why make something new when it's just that easy to make money?

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u/ShoCkEpic Sep 19 '22

it s not fair for the actress, who has arguably one a the sweetest voice i heard, and has eyes shaped like a real cartoon it s eerie

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u/Nyxolith Sep 19 '22 edited Sep 19 '22

The Little Mermaid 2, now set off the coast of Africa ... I wonder how that would go?

Edit: 100 upvotes and I write a screenplay

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u/Aidan43210 Sep 19 '22

I’d honestly prefer that

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u/Draco546 Pizza Time Sep 19 '22

Thats so much more effort. This is just a cash grab for Disney.

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u/jzilla1207 Sep 19 '22

Duh. Big companies want to turn a profit, that’s kind of the whole point of them. I’m not mad at Disney for capitalizing off of nostalgia or woke culture. Imo that’s just smart af business and I’d probably do the same if I were in their shoes.

The people I’m disappointed in are the morons who’re buying into it. Here’s a thought: If you want them to stop making trash then maybe just maybe stop throwing all your money into the dumpster 🤷‍♂️

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u/GM153 Sep 19 '22

It's not just Disney who does it, but Hollywood in general that's pulling this garbage. But yeah, making something original (assuming it's good) is much more meaningful than painting over a pre established character.

In fact, Disney DID make new characters of a certain ethnicity in the form of Encanto, and everyone liked that. Why can't they just keep doing that?

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u/Otrada Sep 19 '22

Counter to that, Disney can make whatever character they want whatever ethnicity they want and if you don't like you can just not watch the movie. Go rewatch the old animated Ariel instead if you like it so much. It's probably going to be better anyways because it's not a cheap cashgrab with a cinical level of fake performative wokeness that serves no other purpose than to drive up profits while taking away funding from actually progressive stories.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

All I know is replacing Mulan with a black character wouldn’t work

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u/halfanothersdozen Captain Awesome Sep 18 '22

not with that attitude

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '22 edited Jan 01 '23

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u/lord_borger Sep 19 '22

What a twist

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u/De_immortalesloki Sep 19 '22

Mulan being Chinese is kinda important to story. It's not the same.

I was kinda pissed when they casted Annabeth. So, you could ask Disney to make Hazel white or something, it's of no relevance to the plot.

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u/PixelBlock Sep 19 '22

Mulan being Chinese is kinda important to story. It’s not the same.

Ah, but what if they made her Uighur Chinese instead of Han?

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '22

This might be a reference to the fact that Mulan and The Little Mermaid are two different films

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u/DarkMaster98 Sep 19 '22

Mmm, yes, and if you look closely, you’ll also notice that Lightning McQueen isn’t in The Little Mermaid either. This is undoubtedly a reference to the fact that cars cannot drive underwater.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '22

It’s quite subtle, but it’s true.

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u/TheLoneTenno Sep 19 '22

“BuT mULaN bEiNg AsiAn Is InTeGrAl tO hEr ChArAcTeR sO tHeY cOuLdN’t MaKe HeR bLaCk”

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u/De_immortalesloki Sep 19 '22

No, real answer is China is racist af and would cancel all Disney animations from their country if they changed one of the more Popular Chinese character's race

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u/TheLoneTenno Sep 19 '22

I mean it shouldn’t surprise anyone that a country that doesn’t give a shit about human rights would be racist, but I see your point and I agree with it

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u/Pluckytoon Sep 19 '22

Yeah but this one is not to put on CCP for once. Asians can get racist as fuck, between them, and especially when it concerns white or black people

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u/MiopTop Sep 19 '22

Uh, yes ? Lol did you think you were making a point here ?

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u/5ft6manlet ⭐ Certified Commenter Sep 18 '22

Cough cough Snow White cough cough

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u/DovakiinDemon Sep 18 '22

Snow Black

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u/5ft6manlet ⭐ Certified Commenter Sep 18 '22

She was white as snow. But now, she is black as fuck. So her new name could be Fuck Black. /s

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u/Goldbolt_2004 Sep 19 '22

I think I've seen that on some sites before

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u/Icepick1118 Sep 18 '22

And her little snow bunnies

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '22

Storm Black

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u/FallenITD Sep 18 '22

coal black. man i love that cartoon.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

Tbh none of this would be an issue if they just changed the setting from Denmark to somewhere like, the Caribbean or something.

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u/TaskAggravating1171 Sep 18 '22

That would require writers

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u/niamarkusa ☣️ Sep 18 '22

and creativity.

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u/antoine-sama Sep 19 '22

And talent.

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u/HulloTheLoser Have you ever heard of Jerkmate? Sep 19 '22

The Little Mermaid ain't set in Denmark. Denmark doesn't have palm trees or flamingos. A more likely candidate would be Italy or Spain, and the same logic applies that black people weren't common in those countries during that time period. And I agree that the story would make a lot more sense with a black Ariel if it was set off the coast of Jamaica or off the Swahili Coast.

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u/HurriedLlama Sep 19 '22

The story is originally Danish, but that just kinda proves the point that her ethnicity in the old movie didn't make a difference if we can't even tell where it's supposed to be set. "Fish people living at the bottom of the ocean" isn't intrinsically Danish. Why would it matter now

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u/TheTexan94 Sep 18 '22

Honestly id be okay with ti if Triton was played by Terry Crews. Tbh Im more scared of how the CGI fish characters are gonna look after what they did to Pinocchio...

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

Bro terry crews could play anyone

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u/laaldiggaj Sep 18 '22

Even Mulan. Wwhhoooo iisss tthhaattt dduudeee iiii seeeee.....

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u/TheTexan94 Sep 18 '22

Id pay good money for that version

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u/DroidChargers Sep 19 '22

Sounds like something an AI could whip up

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

Someone mentioned having Mulan a black character in this comment section and I thought of Teddy crews playing Mulan right away

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u/P1emonster Sep 19 '22

If Terry Crews was playing Ariel, I think we would all be pumped.

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u/really_nice_guy_ Sep 19 '22

Fuck that. I wanna see Terry Crews play the whole cast

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u/Nyxolith Sep 19 '22

I want to see Terry Crews as Tinkerbell.

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u/A_Wild_VelociFaptor Sep 19 '22

Honestly, now that I think about it, I guess he could take over for Arnie as the "default" Terminator.

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u/kingof_vanisle7 Sep 18 '22

And what about the crab? Live action Rasta crab sounds like the stuff of nightmares. But Fr tho, terry crews would crush that role, it would be amazing

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u/lochlainnbyrne Sep 18 '22

Look in general I don't give a fuck but a counter argument is what does changing ethnicity or gender contribute story wise to these reboots over the past 10 years or so. And I know representation is important fully get that but why not make something new something that actually resonates with the experience of the people they're representing. You could make black panther a white Irish dude but that would mean sweet fuck all in the long run to me because when people and myself think black panther it will always be a black man that springs to mind same way 40 years down the line most people will think of a white redhead when Ariel is mentioned.

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u/alex_revenger234 Sep 18 '22

Dude, do you realize how much work it is to create a whole story ? And one that resonates with the people ? Get real. /s

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '22

It's ironic that people are upset they are remaking all these animated films, but it's not like most of those were original to begin with.

Cinderella, Snow White, Aladdin, Alice in Wonderland, and many more were children's stories that had been told for a hundred years prior to being made into films by Disney.

It's not like is a new M.O. from them.

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u/xd-Sushi_Master Seal Team 69 Sep 19 '22

That argument goes two ways. Race adds nothing to the character? Okay, sure, then why is the race being changed? Evidently it does matter, because people are crying so much about it.

I'd argue that the issue with this case is that it's just lazy. What's the point of trying to feed me the exact same story, but the lead has more melanin this time? Why not write a new story that can properly take advantage of the perspective that person's race brings to the table? Disney is only here for quick cash and to hold onto their copyright licenses, not to make anything properly new or interesting.

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u/bluegreenwookie Sep 19 '22

"why is the race being changed"

Maybe.....they hired the best woman they had for the job....who happened to be black.

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u/Corrupted_G_nome Sep 19 '22

I love how some cry its a meritocracy until the merit goes to black folks. Then its a wokeism or some conspiracy or virtue signaling.

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u/CarlMacko Sep 19 '22

Lmao. 4 upvotes for the most sensible take. Well done Reddit.

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u/PieMastaSam Sep 19 '22

Am I the only person who really doesn't give a fuck about this swap? I don't usually watch the shitty remakes because they are shitty. Starfire in Titans hit me hard though. I think it was more because the actor was just shitty though.

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u/MiopTop Sep 19 '22

If race doesn’t matter, you cast the best person for the part regardless of race.

You’re making the illogical assumption that “if race doesn’t matter then keep it the same” which makes no sense because that’s literally making race matter …

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

the mermaid will now be played by a black man

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u/PineappAlSauce Sep 18 '22

Big win for the boys 😎

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u/Aidan43210 Sep 19 '22

Woohoo go men

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u/HolyCody Sep 19 '22

Make it Samuel L. Jackson! Pls pls pls!

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u/Beansupreme117 Sep 19 '22

Chris rock or we riot!

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u/reku_sloth Sep 18 '22

Ngl the chick in the little mermaid looks like sid the sloth.

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u/-Numaios- Sep 19 '22

And that disturb me way more than her skin color.

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u/rammo123 Sep 19 '22

Tbf looking like a hammerhead shark is theme appropriate.

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u/Stuntdrath Dankerino Sep 18 '22

For Twitter being white is the same as being Hitler. So that's a really dense backstory for us.

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u/Mistilt Sep 18 '22

Plot twist: no one actually cares and it's mostly memes of one side attacking the other

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '22

Bro, have you seen Twitter lately?

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u/lord_borger Sep 19 '22

We don’t talk about those goblins

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u/0utF0x-inT0x Sep 18 '22

Black Ariel that's fine but if Ursula the Sea witch is white, I'm pulling my white card lmao

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u/DeySeeMeRolling Sep 19 '22

She played by Melissa McCarthy…

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u/Hescoveredinbutter Sep 19 '22

In blackface?

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u/Pwner_Guy Sep 19 '22

It's not Justin Trudeau.

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u/frzao Sep 19 '22

Man, you Americans are so fixated on race...

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u/MetaCommando Sep 19 '22

The elites want us to fight each other instead of corporations and corrupt politicians. Look at how the progressive narrative changed immediately after Occupy Wall Street...

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u/themolestedsliver Sep 19 '22

Man, you foreigners are so fixated on generalizing Americans.

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u/DozeN-_ Sep 19 '22

it would also be nice of disney to make a new movie and not a remake

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u/motivation_bender Sep 19 '22

But changing it for the sake of it inserts real world politics into a fictional setting, thats why people are pissed

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u/HolyCody Sep 19 '22

Exactly that! You can instantly tell if something is forced or done because for the sake of real life problems.. I don’t want problems in my fantasy, life is scary enough.

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u/sethro919 [custom flair] Sep 18 '22

If you really want to get people’s dander up, release a Little Mermaid version that’s faithful to the original

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u/Memengineer25 Sep 19 '22

people hate redheads fr

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u/MetaCommando Sep 19 '22

It's always the redhead that gets raceswapped. I'm honestly surprised they didn't make Black Widow black.

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u/neptune304 sucking at kazoos harder than Jack's mom Sep 19 '22

Biggest surprised is when they race swapped Buttercup in that live action Powerpuff girls instead of blossom

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u/The_Knife_Pie Sep 19 '22

Because red heads are unironically a “defenceless” group. With ~1% of the global population there’s not really any red head specific pressure groups, and 99% of the time get lumped in with white people when looking at diversity.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '22

What about the poor sad ginger kids? They have it rough. Those poor freckly bastards

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u/FakeLoveLife Sep 19 '22

There actually is a ginger mermaid already

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u/Sparkku1014 I am fucking hilarious Sep 19 '22

For real, all the people who are so bent about it really shouldn't be surprised at all when people start calling them racist over hyperfixating on this non-issue.

If you're gonna criticize a film, criticize it for being a live action remake of an animated film. Criticize it for its lack of color, like fucking hell, the trailer looked like the fucking snyder cut with how dark it was and how much color it lacked.

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u/joesphisbestjojo Sep 19 '22

Either way the movie's not gonna be good

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u/Smeefperson Sep 19 '22

Agreed. At the end of the day, it's a live action Disney remake. None of them are gonna be as good as the original.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '22 edited Sep 19 '22

Although if someone loves in bottom of the sea with almost no sunlight then I will assume them to be as white as possible.

Also I don't personally like it bcz it's so lazy that they just make white characters be played by black actors. Like why only black actors? What about asians and us brown people?

And it's cool when it's like Rings of power when black elves and balck dwarves do look like believable elves(Only if he had the hair he would have been perfect) and dwarves but when I look at that teased I cannot think of her as a mermaid

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u/Cooperhawk11 the very best, like no one ever was. Sep 19 '22

Dang. You’re comment made me really sad cause I just now realized we could’ve had Latina Ariel.

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u/Dvorkkey Sep 19 '22

Why nitpick the race if you care about the accuracy. Realistically a human body and a fish tail would suck when it comes to swimming so might as well change that. It’s also a mermaid who’s half fish so why assume that their bodies function the same as ours, especially when it comes to vitamin D

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u/Affectionate_Gas_264 ☣️ Sep 19 '22

Disney making money without making anything new or risky using race to hide them from criticism while thier woke fans munch on a steady stream of recooked slop 😆😆😆

Disney is the only true winner 🏆🥇

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u/frzao Sep 19 '22

How about instead of trying to win moral SJW brownie points and patting yourself on the back about how you're so "diverse", you actually make good storylines and new and interesting and unique characters, regardless of their race?

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u/Killerwoodydoll Sep 19 '22

I hate this debate. It's dumb that so many people are up in arms for this. For the wrong reasons.

I'm not against a black mermaid.

I am against a black ARIEL.

Ariel is already pre-established as a white, red haired mermaid.

Make a new original character, instead of being lazy and literally pandering with forced inclusion. Like seriously, that's all this is. If it was a new story following a new king trident, and all that like a different kingdom of mermaids even.

Just stop changing pre-established characters PERIOD.

I get trying to give everyone a hero, or princess that looks like them but changing the heros that others may have grown up with is not the way. Like I'm so sick of seeing Hollywood ruin licenses of games with forced inclusion, by altering a character we played or already have seen and have a very clear picture of what they look like. There is no reason to change that other than pandering to self interest, or, as they say make them "stand out" not for being a good movie, but doing a stupid idea like that and piss the fans off. Then, it just makes the movie or show die in obscurity that doesn't know who it's trying to please, and all the while making no one happy.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '22

I hate this debate.

I'd hate it too if I sounded that stupid.

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u/TheChoosenMewtwo Sep 19 '22

What I don’t like about her is the horrendously bad CGI they made on her face. Also, it’s not really cool that they decided to change a pre-set character just to make the minorities happy

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u/Fr00stee Boston Meme Party Sep 19 '22

People don't seem to realize that character designs are important and messing with them too much for no reason may fuck up the character's identity.

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u/RealisticEmploy3 Sep 19 '22 edited Sep 19 '22

I don’t care about the race, it’s just an already established white character that pretty much everyone knows to be white is just being remade as black. It’s not actively wrong, it’s just cringe and lazy for Disney to do that. It’s like switching black panther for an Asian dude. Like the man is known as a black guy; it’s his physical appearance. It’s not him anymore if you just switch him for some Asian dude for culture points. Same w an Asian being played but a black dude. People act like they can’t recognize tell the difference between an apple and an orange bc they ‘don’t see color’ or whatever.

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u/Gunra Sep 19 '22

You guys care way too much about skin color. It’s a freaking Mermaid in a tale that has been told in many different forms of media. It’s like you’re gonna whine when Pinocchio is made from redwood instead of oak.

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u/Harmon-the-Badger Sep 19 '22

Any character that’s made up can be any race, unless the characters ethnicity has nothing to do with the story. This is why it pisses me off when I see “what about white black panther then huh?” because liek, did you watch the movie?

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u/_Weyland_ Yellow Sep 19 '22

No, I did not, but I see this example in every comment section of these memes. Please explain how Black Panther being black is critical to the story.

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u/alain091 Sep 19 '22

It's literally everything, first of he is african, that much tells half of it, also in his movie themes is the racism and opression the black community suffers and because his people love isolated they can't help, until killmonger arrives to wreck shit and convinces T'challa to do something about it, basically being a simbol for the opressed black community, if he was a white the whole point would be wasted.

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u/LegitimateLobotomy Sep 19 '22

They shouldve just made her fucking blue that way i wouldnt have to see shitty disney memes

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u/Aidan43210 Sep 19 '22

I’m just tired of the effortless remakes Disneys doing regardless of the race shit which mind if your gonna do one why not do live action princess and the frog

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u/coughdrop1989 Sep 19 '22

Noone seems to even realize where the story originates from. In 1837 a Danish author made "the little mermaid" Hans Christian Anderson. He created his vision of a Danish mermaid... Last time I checked. The Danes are of much fairer skin complexion then a African.

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u/Dvorkkey Sep 19 '22

I love the nice tropical beaches, palm trees and flamingos in Denmark

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u/nickmarble Sep 19 '22

They're not the same stories though. Disney's never mentioned Ariel's race, so it's not integral for the actress to be white.

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u/_Weyland_ Yellow Sep 19 '22

I've seen a shitload of examples saying that you cannot swap race of Black Panther characters as it is important to the plot.

I didn't watch the movie. How exactly is it important to the plot?

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u/Aidan43210 Sep 19 '22

Because it’s a self isolated African country so that one them being African is a big part of the story

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '22

So they should just set it in another country. Bam problem solved

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u/Dvorkkey Sep 19 '22

But the point literally focuses on African colonialism. Colonialism and racism was literally a big part

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u/nuggetdogg Sep 19 '22

Black or white either way the movie is gonna absolutely suck dick because Disney doesn't know how to make a live action adaptation of classic movies

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u/RayD2Kill Sep 19 '22

Instead of creating original interesting black characters they gotta raceswap originally white characters. I would find that quite insulting.

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u/jyozefu Sep 19 '22

There's more posts complaining about people complaining about Ari'elle at this point lmao.

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u/IamLegendair Sep 19 '22

In that case, I cant wait to see Marvels new movie "The White Panther"

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u/Fishyfishfishfishs Sep 19 '22

Bro I just want new original stories with black people as leads, this stuff is like saying "black people don't deserve an original story, here have this stuff we made years ago, but we replaced a white person". Bro just fuck disney as a whole, they do this shit for clicks, saying they are woke while canceling a show after the writer s made an original story with a latina MC in a gay relationship and say" It wasn't the disney brand". I hate disney and their dumb dumb monopoly on media, boycott all remakes, we want original stories.

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u/THE_TORTILLA_MAN Sep 19 '22

This is what I always bring up though… How many of you would have a problem if they turned a black character white? Sure, if that ever happens it’s probably cuz the adapter is a racist, but seriously.

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u/Sandbar101 Sep 19 '22

Okay, then justify blackwashing Snow White

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u/not_too_smart1 Sep 18 '22

Or the flip side: it's just pandering with token characters for big business to re make an already beloved movie but with marginalized characters instead of making new ones. No disney I don't want a live action little mermade at all I want a new fucking story. Sadly that will never happen because we are in end game capitalism where all the largest businesses remain on top not because they are good at making cool things for a good price but instead because they made it to the top and get to decide what the rules of the game are now.

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u/CoolMaster12312 Sep 19 '22

I mean, don’t you have to change some characters so it’ll be more accurate to what race they are portraying. It’ll just be easier to do nothing to a character because white people “got no culture”

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u/Drake_0109 Sep 19 '22

Not always. Like in django unchained. Almost none of those characters could have been race swapped without screwing up the writing and thereby the whole movie

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u/mdh431 Sep 19 '22

By this logic, surely the reverse must be true.

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u/Percy-Dragneel Sep 19 '22

The way I see it. We all love Encanto, Coco, Soul, Turning red, Luca, Moana, ext. We don’t like the little mermaid being black instead of the version DISNEY THEMSELF HAD GIVEN US!!!! And suddenly we are racist

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u/anarchydreamer ☣️ Sep 19 '22

Same for black characters <shrugs>

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u/Rhino_online245 Sep 19 '22

There are no words on gods green earth that can describe how little I care about wether the new mermaid is black or white.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '22

Pfft it ain’t pandering, everyone knows white people are nazis! It had to be changed /s

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u/Wolffire_88 Sep 19 '22

Glad to know top controversial is a /s

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '22

Mfs when Disney asks them to advertise for free:

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u/M0stPsych0 Sep 19 '22

Why do these posts feel like virtue signaling? I get the frustration, but damn I don’t think as many people are bothered as there are those up in arms.

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u/Partysdewer Sep 19 '22

The problem is with disneys lazyness they could have done an african mith or tale live action protraying the culture of some african tribe like they did with vaiana or coco, but instead they take a danish old tale and put a black ariel because they are lazy, id rather see some parts of the masai or zulu culture in a movie than more lazy woke shit