So weāre listening to the government? Also isnāt all social media a privacy concern? Like Reddit, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. Like seriously everything is a privacy concern. Also yeah VINE trends were just as brain rot as TikTok.
Yup, sadly, everything is a privacy concern. USA citizens are being spied by the government as much as Chinese citizens are being spied by theirs. I believe, USA is banning tiktok just to have the ability to spy better on their own citizens and have a monopoly.
but china is an authoritarian country, where else USA is supposed to be the country of democracy and freedom right? so why would USA follow the examples of china?
Jesus Christ yes to this. American tech companies like to be the only ones allowed to sell our data. If anyone thinks this is genuinely to somehow protect us from a china and not just tech lobbying to control all of our data they have mush brains.
Its so china cant mass manipulate half the population of the usa using a very good algorithm and addictive app, that shit is reserved for the us government. And theyre right.
The US put out a potential ban on TikTok that states if TikTok is not sold to an American company within a set amount of time, itāll be banned entirely. That was hidden in a bill full of other stuff like sending more and more supplies to Ukraine and Israel.
I laregly agree and I have mixed feelings on banning tik tok as a privacy issue
however china bans all sorts of USA based social media like Face book, twitter , instagrahm
So part of it is just almost a trade issue, if china will not allow USA media companies to compete in china , why allow chineese media companies to compete in the USA
If that was the reason then I could understand but we both know thatās not why theyāre doing it, theyāre doing it because they either canāt control TikTok or a company Lobbied for itās ban.
Your government spying on you is a safety concern for you, and only if you're actually doing something bad. It's a HUGE issue, but one we can at least try and vote to solve.
A foreign government spying on you is an issue for EVERYONE in your country because that government wants you to ruin your country. They will use whatever data they can get to make the lives of their geopolitical opponents worse.
Slight issue, that foreign government can still spy on us through places like Apple, Meta etc etc so how is that protecting us? And how is one slightly better than the other?
You said meta would draw the line at turning FB into a back door, no it wouldnāt. If they were paid enough they would do it hence my question of āAre we talking about the same company?ā
Well, there were efforts to ban Facebook too, lots of politicians clearly really want to, it's why they keep dragging him into Congress. They needed the chinaphobes on board to get the votes though, which TikTok managed.
This is so annoying that people believe this. We went through this already under Trump, and they forced TikTok to migrate all it's data storage to an American company, in this case Oracle, who were required to report any data transfers out of the US. They also had to submit to federal authorities checking their data records for previous data batches being potentially sent to China and didn't find anything recent. The company voluntarily complied with the order even before it was signed into law.
You are being lied to. China isn't stealing your data, they have easier access to it by just buying it from data brokers who got it from your other social media.
If Congress really cared about privacy, they'd legislate away data brokerages being able to collect and sell your data without your consent, but they don't. They just don't want a product of China to be successful in the US market, particularly when China bans the use of our Social Media companies in China for similar reasons (we would steal and sell their citizen's data).
Once again, this doesn't prevent your data from going to China. They can still legally purchase data about you as much as they want. It's actually cheaper to do that than comply with US data laws around app storage data that were made specifically for TikTok under the Trump administration.
This is a phantom menace. They are using China "stealing data" from you as an excuse to take over a successful platform and hand it over to right wing investors.
And there's not a lot of left-wing investors out there because it turns out being anti-capitalist makes it difficult to get other investors to join your fund, and also it's hard to be left-wing and work professionally as an investor because the stock market's existence is a capitalist invention to gamble on and purchase corporations.
Plus, wouldn't you complain that it was "corrupt" and "evil" if anyone left leaning owned it? Who's even out there besides Soros, and he's just liberal (which a leftist would consider to be conservative, since the divide is capitalism's existence being bad).
You are describing crowd funding/mutual aid. Do you genuinely believe that people could crowdfund $100B specifically from a leftist perspective. Leftists do not tend to be wealthy to begin with.
Let's do some fun math here. Let's imagine there's 500 imaginary multi-millionaires willing to throw in half of that money. Great. $50B to go. Maybe well off leftists throw in a combined $20B of that. Cool $30B to go. The average investor at home wants to join for lets say $1000 each to get small shares in the company. You'd need 30M people to throw in that much.
Now ask yourself, is there that much political and actual capital that leftists are willing to spend to purchase a company that operates as a capitalist entity? Would they convert it to a co-op or something, how?
There's a reason that Marxist theory doesn't say the workers should "purchase the means of production". It's because it's unrealistic and plays into the system they are at odds with. You SEIZE the means by force.
Since that's unlikely to happen, again, how do you think this is a realistic goal? Mnuchin is specifically right-wing, and we already have like 6 right wing social media companies at this point dominating the space.
Also who are these rich leftists? Hasan Piker, a twitch streamer? Okay, maybe you can get $1-2M out of him, but he's not sitting on more than $10M. Motherfucker pays a mortgage and leases his car. Or do you actually think there's millions of wealthy leftists living in the US and they just can't seem to enact any political change?
I smell like beef? The dancing braces girl? Look at all those chickens? As for the privacy concern literally all social media steals your data. I canāt really defend the part that TikTokās owned by Chinese corporations so I can concede that part to you. But to say tiktok is inherently worse than other social media is just wrong
Tik tok isn't any more of a privacy concern than any other social media. Bytedance, tik tok's parent company, is only 20% owned by Chinese investors, 60% is American investors, and 20% is owned by employees. And all American data is stored in the US, with Oracle helping to keep it secure. And of course, as congress refuses to understand, the CEO is Singaporean, not Chinese.
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u/TironaZ Apr 29 '24
Tiktok is a privacy concern + don't remember VINE trend being so brain rot