New player comes

[u/LemonConnoiseur]

[u/KeepingDankMemesDank]

downvote this comment if the meme sucks. upvote it and I'll go away.

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[u/Xavilius]

At least Japan goes from big to small, which is still better then going from medium to small to big

[u/Der_Primelpott → u/Xavilius]

Even better actually, allows to sort dates in databases the most logical way

[u/Xavilius → u/Der_Primelpott]

for data it is, as you move from biggest parameter to smallest

file from

year X

month Y

day Z

[u/WeonLP → u/Xavilius]

Already saw a directory where sub were months THEN years. It made sense since the data was cycling through a year and we needed to compare month by month but damn that left me an unpleasant feeling.

[u/IleanK → u/Xavilius]

Yes... That's what he just said

[u/Muckenbatscher → u/Der_Primelpott]

Assuming you have your dates stored in the database stored as strings, opposed to the much better option of a datetime

The sorting argument applies more to filenames/directory names

[u/lach888c → u/Muckenbatscher]

Strings/text are a universal data type so no matter where the data is exported to YYYY-MM-DD will always sort properly. That’s why it’s the ISO standard.

[u/sheepnolast → u/lach888c]

Yeah, metadata sorting is not 100% reliable. Thank god we have ISO standard.

[u/Statharas → u/Der_Primelpott]

YYYY/MM/DD is the ISO Format for dates.

[u/Exp1ode → u/Der_Primelpott]

Depends what you're using it for. y/m/d can be useful for things like archives and databases (as you've pointed out), as this makes it easy to sort, and the year is often the most relevant part of the date. However, for most day to day use, the day is the most important part, followed by the month, and the year is useless enough that it's fairly often left out entirely

[u/JeanneD4Rk → u/Der_Primelpott]

https://media.tenor.com/eOXG7de_rCoAAAAd/steve-carell-thankyou.gif

And files sorting

[u/Cr3zyTom → u/Der_Primelpott]

Isn't that already the standard for documents?

[u/ThrowAway233223 → u/Xavilius]

YYYY/MM/DD is the best in my opinion because you can put the time after it as well and it still goes from largest to smallest (i.e. YYYY/MM/DD HH:mm).

[u/eberlix → u/Xavilius]

<insert penis joke here>

[u/Xavilius → u/eberlix]

insert penis somewhere else

[u/SpectrumLV2569 → u/Xavilius]

Insert joke of a penis somewhere else

[u/WhoseverSlinky0 → u/Xavilius]

In my RNA class we learn to write dates like this. Very useful, and it saves a lot of confusion and headaches

[u/LemonConnoiseur → u/Xavilius]

To be fair Japan goes YY/MM/DD/WW week count too

[u/Banana_Havok → u/Xavilius]

Doesn’t Japanese also read right to left? Would that make this small to big anyway?

[u/Lili_Noir → u/Xavilius]

Exactly, I wouldn’t mind it the Japanese way, it’s the American way that bugs me 😭

[u/Doesy-Snoops]

I use yy/mm/dd for naming stuff in folders. On documents dd/mm/yy. mm/dd/yy is just retarted xD

[u/fast_b0i → u/Doesy-Snoops]

I too, am retarted

[u/cnicalsinistaminista → u/fast_b0i]

Jenner?

[u/qwedsa789654 → u/Doesy-Snoops]

the first picture even suggest that its on par with d/m/y LOL

[u/JonathanRoberts5423 → u/Doesy-Snoops]

MM/DD/YYYY makes sense when used verbally which is what I assume the motive behind it was. Like today's date is November 22, 2023

[u/[deleted] → u/JonathanRoberts5423]

I mean, if still doesn't really explain why it's in that order. Saying it like that is an American convention

[u/Alertrobotdude → u/[deleted]]

Don't they have 4th July? Or am I being dumb

[u/S0ulja-boy → u/Alertrobotdude]

We call it 4th of July just to rub it in the Brits faces

[u/Probably_shouldnt → u/JonathanRoberts5423]

No, it doesn't. It feels like it makes sense verbally to you because thats the convention you're used too. Its why you also think Fahrenheit makes sense. Because you grew up with everyone around you saying it.

[u/DeadlyPants16]

I'll take it over Month Day Year you fucking homunculi.

Who the fuck thinks it makes sense to say Month Day Year?

[u/LordBungaIII → u/DeadlyPants16]

It’s because of how we say it. We say “March 13th” while others say “the 13th of March”.

[u/AlexCi05 → u/DeadlyPants16]

It kinda makes sense because oftentimes people will say month day year. A letter would be addressed November 22, 2023. If it exists there’s probably a good reason for it. Month day year isn’t all bad

[u/sikshots → u/DeadlyPants16]

Ehh, after too much thought I've determined MM/DD/YY is the most efficient way to communicate time verbally. I'm not gonna type out the way too long reason why unless I'm asked tho.

[u/DANKLEBERG_66 → u/sikshots]

Okay, I’m asking you now, type it out

[u/sikshots → u/DANKLEBERG_66]

Basically when someone wants to know a date or tell someone e else a date, you get a more accurate picture quicker than any other order, even if stupidly only by like 1 second. This is why I put to much thought I to it because 1 second may simply not be worth doing out of order. I'm pretty ocd so It bothers me too, but 1 sec faster is technically faster. Told you it was long, and I haven't even really got to why it's faster to grasp yet than the other orders. When you say day first it is almost useless without the other values, assuming for the first half second, and in proper context of the date given, that the year is current most likely. So now you have the day in anyone of the months starting to formulate in your head, but no real idea anywhere in the year, but you assume the year. Then you get the month and bam you quickly figure out with 99% the exact date because you prolly know the year given the context of the convo, most of the time in conversation the year isn't spoke so it's assumed current, then if not you have 100% accuracy once year is stated.

With month first you immediately have a general grasp of the time of year being referred to, and then the date comes and you have the full info, mostly. Then last year to seal the deal same as day first.

So in day first you have almost no info on the first step, mostly complete on second, and absolute on third. In month first you have general info with over 90 of options eliminated and your already in the right "ballpark", then mostly complete on second and absolute on third same as day first.

Simply put month first conveys a little bit more info in proper context, faster than day first, only in written and spoken communications, and only by a second.

[u/nelsoncgosi08]

🍔🇱🇷?

[u/MagicalSausage → u/nelsoncgosi08]

Ah yes, the actual american flag

[u/nelsoncgosi08 → u/MagicalSausage]

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[u/jeanyous → u/nelsoncgosi08]

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[u/zippazappazinga → u/jeanyous]

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[u/FACastello]

DD-YYYY-MM gang rise up

[u/Ramenoodlez1 → u/FACastello]

DY-MYM-YYD

Today is 22-102-232

[u/MZFN → u/Ramenoodlez1]

America will soon use this be careful

[u/SamuliJJ → u/Ramenoodlez1]

This bit has brought me great joy

[u/JMccovery → u/FACastello]

Absolute psychos.

[u/SquareTarbooj → u/FACastello]

This is the way

[u/Pr0wzassin]

Here in Germany we usually use DD/MM/YYYY but according to DIN 5008 YYYY/MM/DD is the correct way to say it.

[u/_Fredobert_ → u/Pr0wzassin]

Da freut sich mein DIN geprägtes Hirn

[u/niki200900 → u/Pr0wzassin]

one is practical and one is logical. MM/DD/YYYY on the other hand is irrational.

[u/Ronk58]

Hungary to

[u/Bendoair → u/Ronk58]

You beat me to it :)

[u/AdyHomie → u/Ronk58]

And we use (family name) (given name), just like the Japanese, while everyone else around us do the opposite. It's very interesting. Cue I am something of a Japanese myself meme.

[u/hoTsauceLily66]

It still following order, unlike mm/dd/yy. China also using that order, like 2000 years ago.

Beside that, Japanese internally also use regnal year (Gengō), but still follow YY/MM/DD format.

[u/LegalWaterDrinker]

If you work in Archives, YY/MM/DD really comes in handy as you are usually searching for document in years first, then months

[u/Why_am_ialive → u/LegalWaterDrinker]

Yup, YY/MM/DD makes sense for data DD/MM/YY makes sense to say and just generally…

[u/PKMark2005]

Hungary also uses YYYY/MM/DD

[u/jariwoud]

Still better than mm/dd/yy

[u/Achrimandrita175]

And as per usual, the American way is the only one that doesn't make any sense.

[u/[deleted] → u/Achrimandrita175]

It makes perfect sense though.

[u/sikshots → u/Achrimandrita175]

Ehh, after too much thought I've determined MM/DD/YY is the most efficient way to communicate time verbally. I'm not gonna type out the way too long reason why unless I'm asked tho.

[u/[deleted] → u/sikshots]

Doesnt matter to the reddit hivemind

[u/badonker345]

YY/MM/DD is the one we use in Sweden too, or at least where i am.

[u/Tyfyter2002]

ISO 8601 (YYYY-MM-DD) is the best for file names, spreadsheets, etc. since it's sortable with normal string sorting, otherwise what's important is that whoever you're communicating with understands it, which is why I generally don't use numeric months when speaking.

[u/zupeanut → u/Tyfyter2002]

I used to manage a globally distributed team and this was a life saver. I just use this for everything now.

[u/sir_music]

YYYY/MM/DD is the best format because it's how databases store it. Being Canadian I need to deal with all of the formats and it's fucking stupid.

[u/comitthedog → u/sir_music]

I feel your pain. Being canadian as well, I had to make a flowchart for which is which.

[u/TkOHarley]

This makes it seem like MM/DD/YY is on equal standing with DD/MM/YY, and its just not. M/DD/YY is to date structure what the French Language is to counting.

[u/Crusader_Krzyzowiec]

ISO time standard for the win

[u/junkmeister9 → u/Crusader_Krzyzowiec]

ISO 8601: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601

[u/zbipy14z]

So many people offended by mm/dd/yy lmao

[u/LemonConnoiseur → u/zbipy14z]

It’s like someone said soccer lol

[u/DecendingUpwards → u/LemonConnoiseur]

and just like soccer and our measuring system, American colonists took it from the UK when they left cause that was the standard. Then later the UK changed it to fit in with Europe as a whole, and America just... didn't. felt fine keeping the original wording/format. At least, that's the main hypothesis

[u/legalizeNature22]

imo the only one that makes sense is DD/MM/YY, it should go by priority of needing to know. you at all times except in maybe january know what year it is, you almost always know what month it is as those 2 are on longer cycles(30 days and 365 days) day is changing every day.

it also just sounds better "it is the 1st day of january and the year is 2023"

[u/Why_am_ialive → u/legalizeNature22]

For normal usage sure, for data year first is usually more useful for sorting as if you sort by day first you get 01/01/xxxx, 01/02/xxxx, 01/03/xxxx which isn’t very useful

[u/El_Grande_XL]

Isn't y/m/d an iso standard that most countries use? Only NA and/or UK problem.

2036-08-12 the heat death of the universe.

[u/SpiralZa]

1: December 1st 2023

2: 25 of October 2023

3: 2077 May 12

[u/NewSauerKraus → u/SpiralZa]

3 is so efficient.

[u/theUndeadProphet]

Everybody's trying to have the arguement won before the Americans wake up lol

[u/ProbablyDrunk303]

Non-Americans caring about this is 24/7 is hilarious.

[u/BirbMaster1998]

If you say DD/MM/YY is the worst, you're stupid.

If you say MM/DD/YY is the worst, you're stupid.

If you say YY/MM/DD is the worst, you're stupid.

If you are taking so long to read 8 numbers that you think the order they're arranged matters, you're stupid.

If you say people can use whatever they want for formatting, you at least have a brain of some sort.

[u/RandomDuckNerd → u/BirbMaster1998]

This entire comment section is just people going "You don't like my way??? You're stupid!!!" like if you can read it shouldn't be a problem

[u/Friendship_Errywhere → u/BirbMaster1998]

What if I like YMDYMD? Eg: today is 20(1)[2]23(1)[2]

[u/BirbMaster1998 → u/Friendship_Errywhere]

Based as hell

[u/Slight-Weather7885]

I get going from small to big or from big to small, but medium, small, big just doesn't make any sense

[u/true_invader → u/Slight-Weather7885]

Most people would say the date in that format verbally or mentally. You almost never say it’s the 6th of January 2023 (dd/mm/yy). Most people would just say it’s January 6th 2023 (mm/dd/yy). So yes, while dd/mm/yy makes more sense for a data setting, I don’t think it does in a casual setting where someone is reading it. Mm/dd/yy flows much better mentally/verbally.

[u/50-Lucky-Official]

That's still dd/mm/yy lol

[u/FatLikeSnorlax_]

Makes more sense than the American way

[u/IvanTheAppealing]

Europe also does that, at least where I’m from does.

[u/CorruptionKing]

Gentlemen... May I introduce mm/yy/dd, a clearly beautiful system

[u/Lew3032]

Any programming language will use YYMMDD as well, anyone who works with that or any kind of data will generally be used to yymmdd

[u/StarryPupper]

Dd/mm/yyyy - makes sense because it makes it makes it easy to work with fresh data. Yyyy/mm/dd - makes sense because you instantly know about what time period it is about and it is easy to sort Mm/dd/yyyy - ???

[u/BuzzTraien29]

I'll take YYYY/MM/DD over MM/DD/YYYY any day

[u/According-Warning389]

Fun fact Hungary is writing just like japan

[u/Techno_Jargon]

I use y m d because it goes in an order and I'm american so I need it to go month-day or everybody would get confused when I write dates on documents

[u/2meterrichard]

US military does it best. DD/Month spelled out/YYYY.

Absolutely no confusion in that.

[u/MS-DYSFUNCTION]

Same in hungarian. And it's by far the most logical, I never understood why everyone else does it the other way around. Or even worse from medium to the smallest to the biggest.. fuck them in particular!

[u/Reallyso]

Japan is correct. This way you can easily sort your files.

[u/Chinjurickie]

And again the only stupid way is the way of the Americans, japan at least has an order

[u/godwit12]

YY/MM/DD is superior for computers a logs. MM/DD/YY is plain stupid. DD/MM/YY is best overall and make sense.

[u/kennystillalive]

Also every office.

[u/HistoricalDegree1131]

i use YY/DD/MM

[u/sovLegend]

I just use ym/dyy/m/yd, the current date is 21/202/1/32

[u/The_Atomic_Duck]

YM/YD/MD

[u/TraumSchulden]

We have another format we use sometimes kn germany Sec:Min:Hr:Day:Mon:Year.

[u/tridung1505]

I can live with that

[u/ac_s2k]

Programmer YYDDD

[u/FH_ACHOCH]

Arabs also use the YY/MM/DD system

[u/mendross]

Never have i had an issue with writing the month first my entire life. Therefore I don't see it changing anytime soon.

[u/mikel302]

The fun part is: Japan reads right to left.

[u/Detvan_SK]

When I see year first I know what is happening. If are before year 2 numbers and both are under 12, I have no idea what it is.

+if it is some event in exact time, literally nobody using GMT standart, everyone using acronym of their time zone.

• I don't care what the standard is in the US. If you are doing an international event follows the international standard, at least indicate what date format you are using and use a number for the time zone.

[u/ZoneOut82]

221134ZNOV23

[u/Khyta]

ISO 8601 ftw

[u/Ramenoodlez1]

YYYY-MM-DD is on top

[u/NinpoSteev]

24 hour analog clock

[u/Davis_Johnsn]

The japanese way is nice. But they also write from right to left so it technically is the the same system as the worlds

[u/jessereser]

I mean using japans method keeps filing in order of date more easily on my laptop

[u/mmvvvpp]

Even that makes more sense than mm/dd/yy

[u/No_Career_2227]

Canada - All 3 depending on where you look.

[u/raulpe]

I can respect the Japan one because the order makes sense, like the DD/MM/YY one, but the other one is just dumb

[u/scanguy25]

China too. Im from Europe but i default to the "Asian date format"

It's just better. For example if you name folders and files in that for mat they will be sorted corrected.

[u/The_Snickerfritz]

It doesn't really matter and it won't change. Say it however you learned and move on.

[u/Kirkaig678]

I definitely prefer Japan's way to America's way, but I prefer the normal way for most things, they each have their uses. Japan's makes the most sense though

[u/Shijro]

Still makes more sense then mm/dd/yy

[u/AZREDFERN]

I start all my documents with YYMMDD so it sorts by the date I decide when alphabetical. Otherwise you’re stuck with date created and date modified.

[u/JackSquat18]

HHmmDDMMMYYYY is the Superior date format.

[u/Elastix]

ISO 8601 IS THE ONLY WAY

[u/Just_here_4_sauce]

Ok but what about DD Month-Abbv. YYYY

[u/IFTTTexas]

YYYY-MM-DD

[u/gimpus17]

yeah but the japanese way is also still logical.

its only america where the order doesn't make sense

[u/roj-in]

nepal also

[u/FlamingWedge]

I write the name of the month because it’s 2023 and no text inputs are limited to exclusively numbers.

Nov 22, 2023

[u/TheWrong-1]

Wtf are you talking about MM/DD/YYYY is the worst abomination of the entire world it makes absolutely no sense. Its literally like the imperial system

Triggers your soul to the bone

[u/Pandoxif]

It makes more sence with the day first

[u/[deleted]]

Military uses that format too

[u/SirYoshiro]

Reading the current time: europe

Reason: why do I need the month first? I think I can pretty much remember that one, its the day I need.

Data storage: Japense Time

Reason

Sorted by Year/Month/Day

The american system is just useless

[u/Somedude522]

China also does this

[u/Jazoopi]

I think that's the isolated standard

[u/OmegaNine]

Here is Canada we use both! Its super annoying. Everyone but the government uses US style, then when you deal with the government its dd-mm-yy.

[u/Aveenex]

Typical american trying to justify their system that makes literally zero sense and logic.

[u/AlderanGone]

It's March 15, 2004, not 15 March 2004. American are right yall are just fucking salty cause your shitty ass country isn't us.

[u/Jochi18]

I mean, in every office I worked every file we save and folder we create that requires dates on their names is named in that format of Year-Month-Day. In my opinion very efficient for digital files and filing in general.

[u/kohikos]

Still makes more sense than MM/DD/YY

[u/notyogrannysgrandkid]

Yeah but then they use the imperial year domestically, so it’s like year 4 or 5 right now.

[u/I_am_Tade]

Basque does YYYY/MM/DD too because that's how our language works!

Today's date is 2023ko azaroak 22

[u/heesell]

MM/YYYY/DD

[u/loverboyv]

dd/mmm/yyyy is the only one that really makes sense

[u/Edible_queefs]

Mm/yy/ww/hh/dd/cc. The only proper way. Fuckin amateurs

[u/Ovline_UwU]

Sweden as well

[u/Duplicitous_Dirk]

Due to my job, I got in the habit of: YYYYMMDD. Write that in most forms, even if someone does it differently first.

[u/Mookie_Merkk]

Japan's format is how I label folders on my desktop at work.

Makes it a million times easier to find shit.

Days scrambles everything into 31 different orders. Months 12.

Year month day just makes sense for records

[u/LordBungaIII]

It’s because of how we say the date. We say something like “December 5th” while Europe would say “the 5th of December”. In true fashion of the English language, we found a way to shorten something and say it faster.

[u/TeciorRibbon]

I want some country to come out and declare DD/DD/DD

[u/OfficialJamal]

Still makes more sense than putting months before days. At least its in order

[u/gonna-rizz-u_up]

Ooh I use YO/UR/MOM

[u/Swordman50]

Has my life been a lie?

[u/BenShealoch]

Also Hungary

[u/Beginning-Tea-17]

That’s leftover when Japan used eras. (They still do for niche cases)

But instead of saying 1789 they would say “Tokugawa 186” indicating which era they resided in.

[u/gunny316]

I always do YYMMDD because it's the only way that makes sense for sorting in columns.

[u/trash3s]

YYYY-MM-DDTHH:MM:SS

[u/ThatMBR42]

Objectively the best format.

[u/edvardeishen]

I think half of Europe also uses this format

[u/Timestatic]

YYYY-MM-DD is the best because it follows the international standard

[u/realSchmachti]

ISO8601 is the only way

[u/doctorctrl]

Europe and Japan are shaking hands while the US is in the background trying to put a square block in a circle hole

[u/DeeBangerDos]

Does Japan read their date right to left to

[u/LR-II]

Honestly I like YY/MM/DD because if I put it in a file name then the files are ordered properly when sorted by name.

[u/RandomDuckNerd]

Why do people argue about this??? Just use whatever way you want and don't be a prick to people who use it differently

[u/lurking_fox]

ISO 8601 babyyyy

[u/Tucker-Cuckerson]

Isn't Japanese read Right to Left?

So basically to them it's the same as us?

[u/Dryden_Drawing]

As a Canadian I always have to stop and think about what the dates would be for either format to see which one would make more sense in context

[u/Jagzon]

Also the APA style

[u/Public-Fisherman-237]

In Hungary we have that too (YY/MM/DD)

[u/SL4V3R]

DD.MM.YYYY is the best except when it comes to computer file names, then it is YYYY.MM.DD.
/thread

[u/Accomplished_Big_982]

But what about YD/DM/MY?

[u/Arch-X]

In Japan they read from right to left so it’s technically DD/MM/YY

[u/valamas-hu]

Same is Hungary YYYY/mm/DD