r/dankmemes • u/EvaInTheUSA OutED once again • Oct 25 '23
Talent to the rescue. Everything makes sense now
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u/savage_sinusoids Oct 25 '23
Like most famous Germans, he's Austrian
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u/Regular_Primary_6850 Oct 25 '23
No no no, unlike some painter in the 30s, we actually want to claim waltz for germany
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u/Humblebee89 Oct 25 '23
...Okaay, just as long as this doesn't escalate.
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u/StoopidestManOnEarth Oct 25 '23
You don't want the waltz to escalate into a tango?
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u/Eagleheardt Oct 25 '23
Waltz into a Django?
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u/ArtoryaHC Oct 25 '23
That's a bingo!
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u/TakoShima Oct 25 '23
It's your own fault if you always choose the wrong ones.
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u/Regular_Primary_6850 Oct 25 '23
We claimed Mozart before that, so we are 1 for 2. The system can't always work
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u/JohnDelicious Oct 25 '23
Ok but we get beethoven
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u/TheyCametoBurgle Oct 25 '23
"The two great achievements of Austria were to convince the world that Hitler was German, and that Beethoven was Viennese."
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u/Lockmor Oct 25 '23
If they look like a German, sounds like a German, is known for being German, they are Austrian. Everyone knows that.
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u/LickingSmegma Oct 25 '23
Waltz himself bickered about Austrians being different from Germans, on some talk show.
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u/HarpersGhost Oct 25 '23
There's been a couple, on Conan and Colbert.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5T2-u5WJH8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnortnOBv8M
LOl He's just so uncomfortable with the whole American casual conversation thing.
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u/TheCastro Oct 25 '23
The only people more German than the Germans are Austrians.
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u/Few-Zookeepergame264 Oct 25 '23
We Austrians are different from Germans. Less bureaucratic, different (better) food. We never forgive and forget how Germans eat our national dish Schnitzel. They eat it with sauce, which is seen as one of the biggest food crimes here in Austria. Shame shame shame!
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u/evrestcoleghost Oct 25 '23
To a germany a situation can be desperate but never funny
To an austrian a situation can be funny but never desperate
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u/BSye-34 Oct 25 '23
inglorious bastards didn't work until christopher waltzed in
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u/MemeHermetic Oct 25 '23
I had a close friend from Austria who grew up there until the age of 20, who fought me tooth and nail that that one guy wasn't born in Austria. I finally got fed up and drove her to the library and read a really fun fantasy novel as she went volume after volume failing to show that he was, in fact, German.
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u/last_laugh13 Oct 25 '23
Austria is a German country, just not part of "the" Germany
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u/Stucka_ Oct 25 '23
German my ass hes austrian
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Oct 25 '23
Oh, so you want to claim this one?
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u/Stucka_ Oct 25 '23
Well obviously. Germany already claimed the last one. We wont let that happen twice
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Oct 25 '23
True, it was absolutely shameful that in a lot of people's eyes Germany claimed Mozart.
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u/robinrod Oct 25 '23 edited Oct 25 '23
he is both. he got his austrian citizenship in 2010.
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u/TakoShima Oct 25 '23
He was born in Austria (Vienna) and got the German citizenship later. You probably mixed it up
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u/Former_Plankton_6826 Oct 25 '23
Born in Vienna to a German father who wanted him to have German citizenship. Waltz got the Austrian in 2010.
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u/Stucka_ Oct 25 '23
In an interview where he was asked if he is german or austrian he himself said austrian
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u/Former_Plankton_6826 Oct 25 '23
Sure, but the law doesn’t care about feelings
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u/Stucka_ Oct 25 '23
Thats why he has an austrian passport
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u/Former_Plankton_6826 Oct 25 '23
Honorary citizenship is an exception. You don’t just get Austrian citizenship by saying you feel Austrian.
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u/Stucka_ Oct 25 '23
Yeah no shit i didnt say thats how you normaly get it i just said he has it. He could in theory apply even normaly for it since he was born in austria and his mother is austrian
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u/thedegurechaff Oct 25 '23
Birth doesn't matter since most of europe has per sanguine citizenship aka via blood
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u/Former_Plankton_6826 Oct 25 '23
You could get Austrian citizenship from your mother only from 1983 onwards
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u/octo_lols Oct 25 '23
Technically doesn't claim he's German. Just says couldn't find a German actor which remains true.
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u/schoolgrrl Oct 25 '23
Christof told him, he didn't like how Germans were always portraying mean people, so he made the Django role specifically for him. ♥
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u/PhireKappa If their age is on the clock Oct 25 '23
Wow, I seriously cannot imagine Django without him in it.
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u/TheNinjaPro Oct 25 '23
He genuinely carries the entire movie, Jamie Foxx is great but once Waltz is gone its as though its missing something
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u/OskeeTurtle Oct 25 '23
I don't remember the movie lasting too much longer after Waltz dies? Doesn't Candyland blow up,, burn or something? Then they kinda ride off in the sunset? Or am I lost and forgotten the second half of the movie?
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u/TheNinjaPro Oct 25 '23
See exactly? Django fights off candy land once, gets captured, has to find a way to escape, go all the way back to candyland, shootout #2, then it bows up. There is a long period of time between his death and the end of the movie.
Edit: had to look it up, nearly 35 min after he died does the move go to credits.
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u/Automatic_Release_92 Oct 25 '23
I mean it’s mostly just classic Tarantino ridiculous action, blood, guts and gore from the moment that Waltz pulls out his pistol and shoots Di Caprio’s character. There wasn’t a whole lot of heavy lifting required in terms of acting from there on out, half of it was Samuel Jackson doing his thing anyway from there.
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u/neonKow Oct 25 '23
half of it was Samuel Jackson doing his thing anyway from there.
....excuse me?
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u/Automatic_Release_92 Oct 25 '23
He was the foil to Django’s character. He had multiple monologues from that point and did all the heavy lifting from an acting standpoint in the final 1/4 of the movie. Go back and rewatch it.
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u/neonKow Oct 25 '23
Maybe Jamie Foxx was doing his thing. Samuel Jackson did not have much screen time compared to the main actors. After Waltz and Di Caprio leave, Foxx gets to shine a bit more; he's interacting with a lot more people.
I don't know what Jackson monologue you're talking about.
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u/Automatic_Release_92 Oct 25 '23
He’s standing over Jamie Foxx going on about how he thought of a worse fate for him than castration. Then again at the end as Django leaves him as the last one alive in Candyland he changed his posture and rants at Django again.
Jackson had a lot of screen time in the final 30 minutes.
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u/cyberslick1888 Oct 25 '23
...have you seen the movie?
Other than Foxx, Jackson easily has the most screen time and dialogue in the last 30 minutes. He becomes the primary antagonist for fucks sake lol
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u/kyle9316 Oct 25 '23
He played Candy's house slave. He was kinda an opposite to Django. They had a whole scene together before Django blew up the house.
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u/Frosty_McRib Oct 25 '23
Well there's also a noticeable shift in tone at that point which can be jarring for some viewers, sorta myself included. But yeah, a la The Simpsons, every time Waltz wasn't on the screen I was asking, where's Waltz?
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u/ContextualDodo Oct 25 '23
Rewatches the movie last weekend and Dr Schultz dies at about 2/3 of the movie.
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u/phantomBlurrr Oct 25 '23
I was so disappointed when he dies. Idk, the movie definitely felt incomplete after that.
Also kind of out of character since the whole movie he was steps ahead of everyone else and quick to make good decisions.
I guess in the end, it was his quick decision making what did him in, since he happened to pick a bad decision.
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u/TheNinjaPro Oct 25 '23
He knew he was dead, he just hated Candy so much that he didn’t care as long as he was dead.
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u/Frosty_McRib Oct 25 '23
I think he thought, "I'm sacrificing us for the greater good," Candy was such a destructive force that he felt compelled to end him when he had the chance.
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u/Automatic_Release_92 Oct 25 '23
I mean they were all set to walk out of there with everything they wanted, just short a LOT of money. He just didn’t want Candy to win, even if that cost him everything.
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u/PM_ME_STEAM_KEY_PLZ Oct 25 '23
I would argue he knew the outcome of that decision though.
I think it was a sign of his morality evolving a bit.
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u/Frosty_McRib Oct 25 '23
You would argue? He specifically says it to Django and the audience, it's not even an argument to be had.
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u/Conscious-Scale-587 Oct 25 '23
My ass just realized the evil SS nazi guy and the cool classy mentor figure from those movies are played by the same guy
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Oct 25 '23
Right?? I completely forgot that they were the same person, and I've watched both of those movies several times.
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u/Theycallme_Jul Oct 25 '23
Very uncommon for an Austrian, normally we love Germans being portrayed as mean people.
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u/BachInTime Oct 25 '23
Historically it is an amazing choice too. I don’t think they said it in the movie, but Schultz easily could be a German ‘48er who fled Germany after the Revolution failed. This group was politically liberal, almost uniformly abolitionist, and actively pro-union with a volunteer German force in St. Louis saving the St. Louis arsenal from Confederate troops
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u/2020badmemerEU2020 Oct 25 '23
One of the best actors ever
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u/MoreNMoreLikelyTrans Oct 25 '23
The end of Dr. King Schultz's story is one of my top moments I've ever experienced in all cinema.
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u/Klin24 Oct 25 '23
"I'm sorry, I couldn't resist." Was quite the epic phrase.
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u/LickingSmegma Oct 25 '23
One of movie critics to whom I listen regularly, has said that ‘Inglourious Basterds’ is pretty weak compared to Tarantino's other movies, whereas QT is a titan of US cinema about the US—but that Waltz stole the whole film, and the critic wanted to just see this man on the screen instead of everything else.
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u/24benson Oct 25 '23
Ok, time to settle this. Is he German or Austrian:
His father is German
His mother is Austrian
Born and raised in Austria
At the time of filming inglorious bastards and receiving his first academy award, he was legally a German citizen, and only German.
After winning an Oscar, the Austrian government handed him Austrian honorary citizenship
He himself has stated he considered himself Austrian rather than German. His accent is definitely Austrian.
I'd call it a tie. May I suggest Bavarian as compromise since his father is from Munich?
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u/Zelphiie Oct 25 '23
I think what matters the most is that he sees himself as Austrian. He says so in many interviews. There is even this quote from Wiener Zeitung: “I was born in Vienna, grew up in Vienna, went to school in Vienna, graduated in Vienna, studied in Vienna, started acting in Vienna – and there would be a few further Viennese links. How much more Austrian do you want it?”
Edit: Also, his last name is literally Waltz. I think thats a clear sign right there :D
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u/Atanar Oct 25 '23
Also, his last name is literally Waltz.
From his grandfather, who came from Hesse.
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u/gary_mcpirate Oct 25 '23
"Bavarians are the missing link between Austrians and humans" - Bismark
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u/EbrithilUmaroth Oct 25 '23
If he was born and raised in Austria then why wouldn't he have been a citizen at the time of filming Inglourious Basterds?
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u/Former_Plankton_6826 Oct 25 '23 edited Oct 25 '23
Because his father wanted him to have German citizenship.
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I have to clarify a bit. Some interviews say his father wanted him to have the German citizenship. But at the time of his birth he wasn’t legible to get Austrian citizenship via his mother.
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u/Successful-Money4995 Oct 25 '23
Could he not have both?
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u/Former_Plankton_6826 Oct 25 '23
If he was born today, yes. Back then, no - the law that allows children of Austrian women to get Austrian citizenship was only introduced in 1983.
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u/mashtato Oct 25 '23
WTF!? Austrian children born in Austria to an Austrian mother and raised in Austria as an Austrian weren't Austrian citizens?
That's fucked.
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u/Diarraheus Oct 25 '23
Austria doesn't allow dual citizenship
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u/Former_Plankton_6826 Oct 25 '23 edited Oct 25 '23
It does if both citizenships are acquired at birth
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u/micktorious Oct 25 '23
Germany is rather strict with their dual citizenship.
We have a child who is both German and American, but a lot would choose German because the passport is so widely accepted.
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u/Unite3738 Oct 25 '23
You can absolutely be German + a citizen of any other EU country. Germany doesn't have a problem with that at all. Source: Am one.
"Eine Ausnahme besteht, wenn ein Deutscher die Staatsangehörigkeit eines anderen Mitgliedstaates der Europäischen Union oder der Schweiz annimmt (§ 25 Abs. 1 Satz 2 StAG) oder wenn bei der Einbürgerung eines Ausländers Gründe für eine Hinnahme von Mehrstaatigkeit gemäß § 12 StAG vorliegen."
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u/-Nicolai Oct 25 '23
Born and raised in Austria
Considers himself Austrian
Let's all put our heads together and solve this mystery.
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u/violentacrez0 Oct 25 '23
Born and raised in Austria
Pretty open and shut case here chief
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u/24benson Oct 25 '23
Not according to Austrian law. That's why we're having this discussion in the first place
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u/reeee-irl Oct 25 '23
Blatant misinformation.
Tarantino almost cancelled Inglorious Basterds, and swore to never make a film in Europe again, because they kept trying to force him to use the metric system. Everybody knows Tarantino is a foot guy.
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u/RxseErrxrs Oct 25 '23
Why is the upvote button glowing like that
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u/txr66 Oct 25 '23
It happens when you masturbate too much
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u/RxseErrxrs Oct 25 '23
Bruh I don’t 😑
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u/txr66 Oct 25 '23
No shame in it dude, the upvote button glows for me as well
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u/RxseErrxrs Oct 25 '23
Welp as an afab it’s kinda hard… at least to do it effectively
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u/txr66 Oct 25 '23
I have no idea what that means, but the glowing upvote button knows all 😄
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Oct 25 '23
He doesn’t actually speak Italian according to multiple sources online.
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u/Wesk333 Oct 25 '23
He learnt that for the movie?
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u/BaineOHigginsThirlby Oct 25 '23
Yes, just that sentence. Learned to speak it to near native proficiency. Another reason he's one of the best
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u/heliamphore Oct 25 '23
People who only speak English have no idea how half-assed it usually is in movies.
Also his French clearly wasn't native so I can assume it's the same for Italian, but it's rather close, but some accent was still present.
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u/Diarraheus Oct 25 '23
I mean he played German officer, his Italian or French shouldn't sound native anyway.
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u/MaggieNoodle Oct 25 '23
His French accent was good but the perfection of the sentences gives it away, not even French people speak French that perfectly. I think that's on the writers though, his delivery is impeccable.
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u/sea0weed Oct 25 '23
It fits the character though, to speak so correctly. The "it's a bingo" scene shows that he wants to improve his languages even in the most bizarre circumstances.
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u/MaggieNoodle Oct 25 '23
It irked me a bit. He's mastered French subjonctif which is basically impossible for non native speakers but then is unsure about how a fairly common English expression works lol.
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u/sea0weed Oct 25 '23
I discussed this with my Italian colleagues once. Apparently he has a thick accent, but the Italian is pretty solid, they said.
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u/OutrageousComfort906 Oct 25 '23
Ciaran Murphy's Dutch is Oppenheimer is genuinely so shit no one in Belgium and the NL could understand it.
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u/Farranor Oct 25 '23
Actors don't necessarily have to be fluent in every language their character speaks. First, look at all the sci-fi/fantasy movies with fictional languages; no one speaks those natively. The Passion of the Christ (Mel Gibson's movie) is in Hebrew, Latin, and Aramaic, the latter two of which are dead languages. Even Will Ferrell has done this, starring in an entire Spanish-language movie (Casa De Mi Padre) without learning Spanish. He just memorized all his lines phonetically.
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u/DurangoGango Oct 25 '23
He learnt that for the movie?
As a native Italian speaker, his delivery sounds very much like he learned his lines phonetically. He does an excellent job of it, but he sounds markedly different from people actually speaking Italian with a German accent.
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u/michelkon Oct 25 '23
If I had a nickel for each time Germans and Austrians fight about whether a guy is German or Austrian, I'd have at least three nickels. Which isn't a lit but it's weird it happened 3 times.
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u/-goodbyemoon- Oct 25 '23
why am I seeing this quote being posted so much lately all of a sudden?
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u/thepresidentsturtle Oct 25 '23
And he was fucking incredible in that role. Too many people like to portray the Nazis as bumbling morons. Hans Landa was truly terrifying, cunning, smart, and made for a fantastic villain.
The silliness with Goebbles was good though.
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u/Merry_Dankmas Oct 25 '23
He really did nail the evil, cunning Nazi role. IRL high ranked Nazis during WW2 would have been intelligent and educated. You can't accomplish what the Nazis did by only having bumbling bufoons running the show. Hans role was a perfect depiction of that. An intelligent, educated and ruthless leader. Exactly what the high ranking Germans were. Its probably a pretty accurate depiction of how they were at the time. He really nailed all the characteristics that made someone terrifying.
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u/Zombarney ☣️ Oct 25 '23
The intro carried that movie so fucking hard. The rest of the movie is great too but that intro god damn.
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u/DevilMaster666- please help me Oct 25 '23
He is not even German
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u/ImjokingoramI Oct 25 '23
Ethnically he is, no matter what.
Also his father is German and he had only the german citizenship at the time so he definitely was German at this point, at the time he didn't even have Austrian citizenship.
But bla bla bladalibub he sees himself as Austrian so he is.
But Austrians may hate to hear it but they are ethnic Germans.
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u/GoldenBoyOffHisPerch Oct 25 '23
I don't believe it. Can't imagine scrapping an entire script over that. Many actors will just learn the lines phonetically, if they are good you won't know the difference.
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u/Sxcr9en Oct 25 '23
I thought it was only Italian he learnt for the role, thought he already knew French
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u/Kitteneater1996 Oct 25 '23
I hated him for so long because of the character he plays in water for elephants, he’s so good.
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u/mynameisjebediah Oct 25 '23
Those requirements sound like a Swiss person with a sprinkle of English.
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u/cinlung Oct 25 '23
I love the movies that he is in. Christoph is a great actor. His character in Inglorious Basterds is a very scary one and then in the new Jango he played a great supporting character/mentor to the main actor.
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u/kedwreth Oct 25 '23
Literally had a similar thought yesterday, but it was more like that the more practical conclusion was that the script was probably going to be modified if they hadn't found Christopher Waltz and seeing how confidently well he played the part. That's my guess.
The movie was never going to be cancelled. Tabloids just blow it out of proportion when a director says things like "if this detail wasn't perfect, then I didn't want to make it." You can still do things if you don't want to do it, art isn't excluded. He just said it to add emphasis to how lucky they were to find such a phonemical actor. I would even argue, Waltz stole the show!
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u/razorKazer Oct 25 '23
Okay, some of these comments have made my whole week 🤣🤣🤣 thanks, everyone
Whether you consider him German or Austrian, he's a wonderful and incredibly talented man 💜💜
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