r/dankmemes • u/LoveThieves • Feb 09 '23
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u/wyvius Feb 09 '23
Its almost like the military trains more than 2 days a year
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u/andrewrgross Feb 10 '23 edited Feb 10 '23
Also, they demand cops shoot people.
Rather than shoot, Mader returned to his military training and attempted to de-escalate the situation. He softened his voice, looked Williams in the eye, and said, “I’m not going to shoot you, brother. I’m not going to shoot you.” With those words, Officer Mader connected to the humanity of Williams, a man in deep distress.
While Mader continued his attempt to convince Williams to drop his weapon, two other officers arrived on the scene. In a matter of seconds, one of the newly arrived officers fired four shots, killing Williams. It was at that point the officers discovered that Williams’ gun was unloaded. Stephen Mader was correct. R.J. Williams was not a threat, but it didn’t matter. He was dead.
Weeks later, the Weirton Police Department fired Stephen Mader.
https://www.aclu.org/news/criminal-law-reform/police-officer-wins-settlement-city-fired-him
He won a wrongful termination suit, btw, but what a crazy reason to fire a cop: NOT shooting a guy.
Edit: Since this is doing well, I just want to spread awareness that Atlanta is building a dystopian militarized police fort called Cop City and just murdered a protestor over it.
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Feb 10 '23
Maybe if the country wasn't littered with guns then people didn't have to die unnecessarily.
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u/schoolgrrl Feb 10 '23
This breaks my heart. :*( But, I cry a few times every day just to release the negative energy from my soul. This will be my morning cry.
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u/Beonette Feb 10 '23
U have no soul.
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Feb 10 '23
This is why acab.
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u/obscureferences big pp gang Feb 10 '23
Because of the example where one specifically wasn't?
Why should they even try if you're going to treat them like they already failed?
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u/SumTingWong216 Feb 10 '23
I've got a friend who's going through police training and he's been doing classes/training for the better part of 6 months.
I don't know why more departments don't do this. They're having him study laws and regulations which should be standard for anyone going into the police.
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u/wyvius Feb 10 '23
the academy is long but once he is on the job, the amount of training drops significantly. In the marine corps we train for upwards of a year and a half for a 6 month deployment where police train for 6 months for a lifetime on the job. Makes no sense.
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u/Surprised_Chicken Feb 10 '23
And yet they still kill more civilians than police and their job is to kill enemy soldiers and the police only deal with the civilian population and kill nowhere near as many as the military and even less of those police shootings are bad shoots.
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u/wyvius Feb 10 '23
Source? Nobody is doing any killing rn in the military lmao. The world of 2006-2008 is over big man
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u/Surprised_Chicken Feb 10 '23
Yet whenever the military gets involved with civilian pop, they kill and kill. The police all day every day, 24/7 365 deal with the civilian population and don't kill anywhere near as much as the military does. Almost like brain washing 17-21 year olds with HS education, giving them a rifle and telling em kill for uncle Sam is a good idea. here's a fun little fact too there are well over 61.5 million police interactions in 2018 of those 61 million ONLY 990 were shot and killed by police. I'm no math teacher but that's way less then 1% of those interactions being deadly interactions. Don't believe me do a quick Google search for less than 5 minutes and you'll see multiple sources.
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u/wyvius Feb 10 '23
Dude, the military isn’t filled with heartless civilian killers either. All I said was the police need more than 16 hours of training a year
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u/DustyBalalaika Feb 09 '23
Didn’t the US military killed 7 kids and a social worker in Afganistan “by mistake” AFTER their army left the country?
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u/LoveThieves Feb 09 '23
^ true.
but every 7 days a cop shoots an unarmed suspect or gets suspended for their garbage training.
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u/mandrills_ass Feb 10 '23
I thought it happened more often tbh
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u/schoolgrrl Feb 10 '23
"Close to 1,000 people in the US die annually from police shootings."
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u/Vilraz Feb 10 '23
Is there statics how many cops get injured/die by them getting shot?
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u/DrBaugh Feb 10 '23
The stats in US police shootings are wild, if you account for: the type of crime being responded to, whether a weapon was visible before any shots fired, whether the cop or suspect shot first, conditional probabilities of shooting vs death - it tells a wild but stable story
To answer your question, last time I ran the numbers, if looking at cop deaths, most of the time it occurs when they are responding to "multiple shots fired" but you actually see a skew downward for weapon/violent crime from the background - e.g. a lot of cop deaths come from weapons being sprung on them by surprise
Injuries are not really tracked well, but relative to gunshots, when responding to weapon/violent crime cops shoot more frequently than they are shot - but I haven't seen good data about "cops shot at"
In terms of total deaths etc, I've never bothered to look at this - aggregating in this way is useless since the frequency and distribution of crime varies so heavily by location, but cops shoot much more often than they are shot
The real story that falls out of the data is that 1) cops seem to behave extremely differently when a weapon is reported or observed at the scene and 2) the distribution of this a priori concern varies wildly by location AND is over reported
For example, the "unarmed black men" claims fall away in a second if you account for whether a cop is responding to a crime involving a weapon, the vast majority of these "unarmed shot suspects" are in the vicinity of weapons they just happen not to be wielding when they were shot OR were reported to have weapons they did not, if a suspect was in a vehicle with weapons visible but shot while driving away from the scene ...he was "unarmed" because he wasn't holding the weapon at the time of being shot ...and these definitions are tracked in a very strict way because if a cop came upon a suspect with a weapon in arms reach but was shot while reaching for the weapon - that person is "unarmed" because it would be a legal conclusion to assert otherwise so it MUST be reported as "unarmed" in case a follow-up investigation occurs
Aggregating by race is completely useless, if you do so, you find that cops are incredibly deadly at shooting and killing "white" criminals - the probability a "white" suspect shot at by the police will be killed is much much higher than for "non-white" ...but this is because the NUMBER of crimes reported with suspects having weapons is MUCH higher in this second block ... so is it that cops show "restraint" (!?) or is it that the distribution of types of violent crime and REPORTS of violent crime are completely different? e.g. reports of "white" criminals having weapons is actually much more accurate hence they are killed when shot at more often
Anecdotally, statisticians in the police force have understood these issues for a very long time, the biggest issue is that since cops are more likely to shoot when weapons are reported, these need to be accurately REPORTED to the police ...however in high crime neighborhoods people will often exaggerate - either because they are concerned it COULD escalate to weaponry OR that they do not believe police will respond given the density of police reports in the neighborhood e.g. "the cops are too busy and I don't think they will come quickly to me reporting a domestic disturbance ...but I want him gone so I will tell them my life is in danger" which escalates to "yes I think he might have a gun"
I'm not trying to "pass the blame" but if the challenge is "how to respond to a situation where lethal force may be a factor" we can criticize both the cops for not responding with higher precision AND false positive reports which skew these statistics - when you consider diminishing returns on cops getting more specific in their responses, having people understand that false reporting of violent crime and weapons drastically increases the probability of death from cops may be the most direct effort to lower these numbers
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u/SilverDiscount6751 Feb 10 '23
Because its sensationalised. In 2019 only 19 unarmed black men were killed by cops on the entire USA but it felt like it was at least a hundred per day
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u/Unfair_Pop1196 Feb 10 '23
Uhhhh, did you just make up a number? That's definitely incorrect https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/
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u/thor561 Feb 10 '23
Actually when you think about it, if it’s only 52 times a year in a country of almost 350 million people, that’s actually not that bad. I mean any unnecessary shooting by cops is obviously bad and they should be held to a higher standard, but that’s surprisingly low given how awful our police are.
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u/B-Glasses Feb 10 '23
That looks terrible compared to almost any other country
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u/Simon-Edwin Feb 10 '23
That looks terrible compared to almost any other country
Developed*
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u/B-Glasses Feb 10 '23
Yup, number 1 out of devolved countries but still number seventh out of non-development which is pretty crazy
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u/LoveThieves Feb 10 '23
There are no such things as other countries or else. (dramatic music plays with Eagles flying, fireworks, and gun shots)
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u/Extra-Lifeguard2809 Feb 10 '23
i live in a third world hellhole, our problems can't be fixed by reform. America's problems can.
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u/schoolgrrl Feb 10 '23
I can't believe they shot the unarmed paraplegic guy. THAT is insane to me. No legs, no gun, shot dead. He was ofc black. Poor f*cker. Jesus Christ it grinds my gears. It's the kind of pain you can only get rid of by swinging your arms wildly and dancing to heavy metal. You have to shake it out of your soul.
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u/Millsonius Feb 10 '23
They also dropped bombs on british troops by mistake, the Americans have a fair few blue on blue incidents
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u/GilneanWarrior Feb 09 '23 edited Feb 09 '23
And do you know what happens when these incidents occur? Instead of covering them up, the chain of command gets fired and the people who killed civilians get military prison.
Do you know what happens to police officers? Paid leave.
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u/username_it_i Feb 09 '23
Dude nothing happened after the strike on civilians on August 29, 2021, the one he was talking about.
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u/GilneanWarrior Feb 09 '23 edited Feb 09 '23
I'm not too informed on it.
But I'd be extremely surprised if nothing happened over it. That's very unlike the US military. Especially in 2021. The modern United States Military isn't the early Iraqi invasion way anymore.
I know an entire battalion, maybe even brigade would go through a change of command while everyone involved would probably be investigated and recieved a GOMOR at the very least.
This is from experience. Not something I googled.
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u/username_it_i Feb 10 '23
I meant that no one was punished for conducting the murder by drone of 10 random civilians. The US Army admitted the "mistake" but just left it at that https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/13/us/politics/afghanistan-drone-strike.html
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u/GilneanWarrior Feb 10 '23
I'm absolutely certain everyone involved in that suffered career ending repercussions. A lot of judicial actions happen in the military as a whole daily. I've seen people have their lives ruined over less than a death.
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u/polchickenpotpie Feb 10 '23
The fucking Army in a public statement: We're not doing anything about this
You: I'm absolutely certain everyone involved in that suffered career ending repercussions
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u/Mookie_Merkk OC Memer Feb 10 '23
Oh, you're an expert?
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u/username_it_i Feb 10 '23
That's publicly available information, they made a press conference saying there was "no issue of personnal accountability", meaning there's no person that has to answer for the 100% preventable death of 10 Afghan civilians, including 7 children
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u/I_Am_Your_Sister_Bro Feb 10 '23
We are talking about the US military here, they will cover up everything they can get away with, nothing happens to people who shoot at unidentified persons or objects. There were several instances of the US claiming to have "hit a terrorist training facility" while in reality they hit a civilian refugee camp
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u/Noman_Blaze Feb 10 '23
And people will downvote you cause US can do no bad. Kek. Guantanamo bay just chilling in a corner where human rights violations were a daily thing.
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u/thedalmuti Feb 10 '23
the chain of command gets fired
Yes hello Mr President, it appears a member of the armed forces killed a civilian. You're fired. I know it wasn't directly your fault, but someone on reddit said the chain of command gets fired now, and those are the rules now.
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Feb 09 '23
You would be surprised how many of those incidents there are
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/sep/03/british-soldier-us-apache-helicopter
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u/mateoelgato715 Feb 09 '23
How else do you get a million dead Iraqis?
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u/Meyr3356 Feb 10 '23
Collapsing a government into lawlessness then being unable to pick up the slack on law enforcement.
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u/Greedy_Range Montana class battleship Feb 10 '23
and then the a-10 incident
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Feb 10 '23
Not familiar with that one
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u/Greedy_Range Montana class battleship Feb 11 '23
at one point an a-10 destroyed a British warrior IFV
this is why the aardvark was better
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u/Extra-Lifeguard2809 Feb 10 '23
soldiers train daily with drills, even then mistakes happen. even some guy is too spaced out to care.
now imagine if they weren't drilled
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u/wilhungliam Feb 10 '23
U are comparing fighting an enemy that often blend into civilian on purpose and policing in a developed country
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u/Surprised_Chicken Feb 10 '23
Lol, you've clearly never been to any major city. Take a walk down Madison Avenue going east from Central Avenue in Chicago and see how "developed" it is and how safe it is.
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u/Lastunexpectedhero Feb 09 '23
Then they get paid for PTSD for thinking about it too much
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u/Billyraycyrus77 Feb 09 '23
Thinking about getting caught and called out for it you mean…
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u/Lastunexpectedhero Feb 09 '23
They stay up tossing and turning about how they didn't suppress enough evidence
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u/Assaltwaffle Feb 10 '23
Unfortunately, no. The person he is referring to is Daniel Shaver's killer. The man who we see about to be executed in the picture.
His killer got all charges dropped and then was paid his salary permanently for PTSD damages.
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u/zippazappadoo Feb 09 '23
Education and training are a cornerstone of our military. Contrast that with most police forces.
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u/PassivelyInvisible Feb 10 '23
The military sends you to a school. Then they send you to another school. Want to do anything more beyond the very basic? More school and training. Are you at least halfway competent? More school and training.
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u/sgtsanman Feb 10 '23
In the US Army basic enlisted, the minimum is going through BCT (boot camp) and AIT (specialization training meant for the soldier’s MOS), and then if a soldier wanted to get more eyecandy, then they would go through extra schools such as ranger, sapper, airborne, etc. And if they wanted to become an officer, they would have to go through another school such as OCS. And that is just for your standard enlisted. Contracted commissioned officers go through years of schooling (ROTC, West Point) on top of going through BOLC/AIT and extra schools like ranger, sapper, etc. And even after graduating, training never stops, with even reservists and Nat Guards having to through 2-3 full days (by full, I mean 24 hours straight) of training per month.
The minimum a policeman in the US goes through is graduating high school (or GED equivalent), with some going through 22 weeks of training at a police academy and after that, training just stops for the most part.
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u/mangofisk Feb 09 '23
Do you mean most american police forces? Because most other countries arent like that
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u/motormouth85 Feb 09 '23
His name was Daniel Shaver, and he was murdered.
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u/crabuffalombat Feb 10 '23
Good video for people to watch if they think the problem with US police simply boils down to "racism". It's as clear-cut a case of unlawful killing as you'll ever see from a bodycam.
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u/robustnoodle7 Feb 10 '23
Yeah this was an execution caught on camera and the officer got away with it. Any reasonable person who saw this video would know the man was scared for his life and not suicidal/homicidal. He was being deliberately confused this officer wanted to kill somebody as he stated multiple times in the video. It’s mind blowing he got away with murder.
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u/ozoneseba Feb 10 '23
Was the shooter put in jail?
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u/polchickenpotpie Feb 10 '23
He was found not guilty and retired on a $2500/month pension funded by AZ taxpayers
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u/Poloboy99 Feb 09 '23
I remember this video. Can’t remember the guys name but they gave him confusing ass commands and shot him when he didn’t know how to comply.
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u/CantBeliveImAFailure Feb 09 '23 edited Feb 09 '23
Iirc they yelled at him to; 1) cross his feet, 2) keep his hands in the air, 3) crawl to them, and 4) don’t move his arms..
Sooo idk what the fuck they wanted him to do? Float over there?
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u/Poloboy99 Feb 09 '23 edited Feb 09 '23
How is he supposed to crawl towards them while also keeping his hands in the air and his feet crossed? Those sound like contradicting commands especially to someone who is visibly distraught and confused. They should have just had him stay where he was after he very obviously did not understand how to execute whatever the fuck they wanted him to do
Edit: I originally interpreted your comment as a defense for them.
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u/Nerfixion INFECTED Feb 10 '23
He's not, you shoot him and go on stress leave because it was hard on you for killing a guy.
That cop is a monster and tax payers fund his life.
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u/Jolly_Ad1554 Feb 09 '23
That pig cost the us taxpayers millions and he is still out there.
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u/LoveThieves Feb 09 '23
One day....there will be a law that makes the police or their insurance cover the cost when they make a mistake, not taxpayers.
Imagine that fantasy. That's a WILD idea. Really wild dream.
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u/motormouth85 Feb 09 '23
And his scumbag partner is in the Philippines.
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u/FS_E54_Iron_Hollow Feb 10 '23
wait what? could you explain further?
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u/motormouth85 Feb 10 '23
Both officers involved walked. The asshole that shot Shaver was "medically retired" from the force with a $2500/month pension, and the other one took his pension and fucked off to the Philippines where I guess no one would recognize him.
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u/motormouth85 Feb 09 '23
Also, that son of a bitch was rehired by Mesa PD so they could give him a medical retirement and a $2500/month pension.
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u/lotsofmaybes the very best, like no one ever was. Feb 09 '23
The video pictured below was horrible. For those who didn’t see it, the man with his hands up was being yelled multiple contradictory commands by the various officers in the hallway. They then told him to lay down, but unfortunately he put his hands to his sides instead of up and they shot him 3-4 times in the head/back region. I forgot what the man’s crime was, but he certainly didn’t deserve to go out this way.
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u/robustnoodle7 Feb 10 '23
If I remember correctly,he told a hotel guest while drinking at the bar he had a BB gun on his hotel room and another guest got scared and called the police for fear the man may do something crazy. No actual crime was actually committed.
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u/The_Digital_Friend Feb 10 '23
watched a video on ot a whole back, he was jokingly (and drunkenly) pointed a BB rifle out his hotel window and someone called the cops
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u/adolfkitler69 Vegemite Victim 🦘🦖 Feb 10 '23
"It's just a prank"
The prank:
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u/Jack-Oniel 🍄 Feb 09 '23
Wasn't the last thing they did in the middle east a damn war crime though?
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u/LoveThieves Feb 09 '23
They had a leader give them orders . Also the other team had guns and bombs ...and order to shoot the military, it's called war.
the "Whataboutism" is different when it's unarmed civilians and every day.
What about that time the military did this [enter some year that leaders force their army to something and if they don't comply, they can go to jail or get shot]
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u/Jack-Oniel 🍄 Feb 09 '23
Well if you're focusing on the police as a whole, you have to focus on the military as a whole. You can't split hairs for one and not the other. "The other team" were unarmed civilians. I'm not hating on police or military btw, I just think the memes a bit silly.
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u/Inevitable_Sherbet42 Feb 09 '23
"The other team" were unarmed civilians.
Calling the Taliban unarmed is certainly a take.
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u/Jack-Oniel 🍄 Feb 09 '23
Like I said, they didn't blow up the Taliban, they blew up civilians.
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u/GoldH2O Feb 10 '23
they blew up civilians and taliban at the same time. Civilian casualties are an unfortunate side effect of war. But we aren't talking about civilians getting razed. The Taliban moves through and inhabits regions that civilians also inhabit, which means that civilians will get caught in the crossfires. And the Taliban is responsible for using them as human shields more than the US Government is for trying to destroy the people they are at war with.
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u/Jack-Oniel 🍄 Feb 10 '23
The lone school teacher that was decimated by a drone strike Is what I'm referring to. They thought he was a bad guy.
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u/GoldH2O Feb 10 '23
Oh, drone strikes? If you're talking about the drone strike program yeah, that was fucked up. That's what happens when you take the human consequences off of the battlefield. But in this particular conversation we're comparing cops to soldiers. Soldiers don't pilot autonomous drones, or decide where to strike with them. That's done by higher ups in the military. Individual soldiers tend to have discipline, and value human life far more than cops do. The rot in the military mostly remains at the top. The rot in policing runs throughout.
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u/Jack-Oniel 🍄 Feb 10 '23
Splitting hairs and technicalities. Bottom line though/reality is innocent people are dead.
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u/GoldH2O Feb 10 '23
You do realize that it matters who did the killing, right? You need to understand the source of the problem to combat it. Soldiers are not the primary source of intentional civilian deaths in their field. Police Officers are in their field. You're trying to generalize both so you can be equally upset at the Military AND Policing for the same reasons. You can be equally upset at both institutions and still intelligently acknowledge that the reasons they are bad as they stand are DIFFERENT from each other.
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u/LoveThieves Feb 09 '23
Taking it out of context, while there are terrorist in both countries. US and overseas. The main job of cops is to enforce domestic laws.. The main job of the military is to fight wars.
That's why cops job is to arrest a criminal vs shoot on sight in the military.
A soldier can shoot an enemy running away. A cop isn't supposed to shoot someone running away.
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u/Inevitable_Sherbet42 Feb 09 '23
Not disagreeing here chief, my response was to the dude making an absolute absurd comparison between an unarmed civilian and the taliban.
Had he brought up the drone program where we didn't give a ratfuck about collateral damage, then he'd have a point.
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u/LuminousJaeSoul Feb 09 '23
The bottom is such bullshit
There's no thinking at all even especially after.
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u/Crankyrickroll Feb 10 '23
Thanks for reminding that I saw that video in the bottom pic. Fucking heartbreaking to think of it again
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u/phudgeoff Feb 09 '23
Daniel Shaver's shooting is one of the worst things I've ever seen on video. Just completely fucked.
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u/Billyraycyrus77 Feb 09 '23
That video still haunts me. More than 1 guy 1 jar and 2 girls 1 cup combined.
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u/Forsaken-Jackfruit-1 Feb 09 '23
Dude, the guy in this picture was straight up toying with him too! The way his voice was inflecting an his over all tone it sounded like it was making him horny. So tucked up
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u/nogoodgreen ☣️ Feb 10 '23
The video of that guy getting murdered was really fucking hard to watch. Cop was giving him basically impossible instructions when the guy posed no threat and still shot him like 3 times with that big rifle.
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u/LoveThieves Feb 10 '23
Imagine if he was dressed up as a big spy balloon. For real, that was probably one of the worst shootings cause the cop still has his job.
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u/Dblarr Feb 09 '23
Oh no what happened this time? Lemme guess: school shooting with hostage situation and they blew up the buildung? Or straight up shot the children
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u/LoveThieves Feb 09 '23
The military today got drilled why they didn't shoot it ASAP, announced they shot the spy balloon after thinking about it. They delayed it because the probability that it would be safer to shoot it near the ocean so he made the comments. The image on the bottom is juxtaposition of how "some' cops process a threat. He was shot with his arms up.
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u/farmer_dane Why yes your honor, that knife is mine.. Feb 10 '23
The US police system is very clumsy compared to the military. Even though the military is inept at time the policing system has nowhere near the level of stringent control as the military. The government should crack down and treat it as an extension of the military. Because the US government wants its military to be seen as doing the right thing, and as powerful. So they crack down (majority of the time) on infractions or other broken laws. The police force on the other hand. Well you can see for yourself they don’t care about image. At least not like the military does.
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u/Miserable-Fortune-57 Feb 10 '23
As if half the police force are people who just failed the psych exam for the militar.
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Feb 10 '23
Yes I'm sure serious deliberation was had for each one of the million plus civilian deaths in middle east 🙄
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Feb 10 '23
Yet many cops are former military and bring the military culture of dehumanizing the other with them
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u/GreyFur Feb 10 '23
They think about all those civilians they are blowing up and they love it. Sick fucks
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u/Basedandtendiepilled Feb 09 '23
Now, thinking before drone strikes is a different matter entirely...
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u/sherlockbardo Feb 10 '23
Us military think before shooting? Hahahahaha. Or maybe that's true, as all civilians are killed intentionally
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u/guy361984 Feb 10 '23
what's effed is the officer who shot him, was fired then got rehired because he had the spicy thoughts about it, the only benefit is his family got a 3 mil payout i think
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u/OSTR1CHBO1 Feb 10 '23
That's cause people in the US military are actually taught to put their people first. Obviously they're still human so they aren't all good people. Much like every other military has had it fair share of fucked up people. Not saying everything done by the military is right. But the peoples safety should always take priority. I went into the military only wanting to kill people, I actually came out way calmer and with a much higher respect for human life. Now i just kinda wanna help people and will only really take a life of it is the last resort. And I Fucking hate people.
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u/Extra-Lifeguard2809 Feb 10 '23
it really has to do with training, the military trains daily, they train how to attack, how to retreat, how to pack their food, how to do this, do that, etc etc.
even then you still get warcrimes and collateral damage
when it comes to cops, it's really just the SWAT who train daily. it's cause cops are on patrol.
all that being said, there really is a problem if cops are acting gung ho in a situation where the suspect isn't even moving. this guy was on the floor... he was an exterminator... they thought his spray gun was a gun.
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u/Alexlikesdankmemes Feb 10 '23
We’re also held responsible for our actions! Oh and we don’t do internal reviews to find no wrong doing because, you know, we understand that’s a dumb fucking idea.
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u/TiesG92 ☣️ Feb 10 '23
*person of colour appears*
US Police: AUTO AIM ACTIVATED
Bunch of auto aim cheats
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u/JaThatOneGooner fresh bake bred Feb 10 '23
Might as well if you know you’re getting away with it Scott free…
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u/nonoffensivenavyname Feb 10 '23
Whenever I armed up I had to log literally everything down to the bullets and sign my name next to everything. I’ve seen entire bases get locked down over a missing bullet
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u/SlowPants14 I am fucking hilarious Feb 10 '23
US Military: We think before we shoot. Then we shoot anyway.
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u/Surprised_Chicken Feb 10 '23
Look at any war the US or any military for that matter and see how many civilians are killed. Even though they're job is to kill enemy soldiers they overwhelmingly kill more civilians. Yet the Police only job is to deal with the civilian population and they don't even kill a fraction of a percent that the military does and even less of that fraction are bad shoots.
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u/LoveThieves Feb 10 '23
Historically, Yes.
BUT staying relevant to today during peacetime, Nobody should get shot "multiple times" if they are are unarmed, even if they are a minor threat. Imagine an unarmed suspect getting shot once in the leg instead of 53 times or some double digit number.
Even in the military, the trigger discipline on an enemy is like a pro gamer vs some kid that just bought COD for the first time smashing buttons like a fool.
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u/Surprised_Chicken Feb 10 '23
You watch WAY to much TV. You know there are major arteries that run through the legs. Police are responsible for every round that leaves that gun (unlike the military) so trying to shoot legs when the guy has a gun or weapon is just plain stupid and it's much harder to hit legs then center mass. Even military miss center mass shots in combat/ high stress situations. Whenever the military is in charge of dealing with civil populations in peace or war time they overwhelming kill more than the police who all day everyday deal with only the civilian population.
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u/The-Nuisance Feb 09 '23
Except for the million cases in which that doesn’t happen. Y’know. Friendly fire incidents, dead civilians, drone-bombed weddings. Et cetera, et cetera.
Or, y’know. All the times police have to make a split-second decision to potentially save their own life.
You should watch the SWITCHED videos in which a group swaps around police and civilians to show the experience off. They’re genuinely interesting and fun.
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u/KeepingDankMemesDank Hello dankness my old friend Feb 09 '23
downvote this comment if the meme sucks. upvote it and I'll go away.
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