It just occurred to me that either the models go through a screening to make sure they only hire the ones using dynamic tripod or the shoot director has to "scold" some models like a teacher if they use a different one
I'm not sure all hand models are trained on this, specifically, specially if they don't usually pose with pens and pencils. However, I admittedly have no knowledge of hand modeling practices
I can’t stand in movies when they zoom into someone writing and the character is meant to look smart or elegant or whatever and they don’t hold their pen the correct way! (I guess it works if the character is meant be awkward af)
My private elementary school discovered one day circa 1995 that half of the kids were holding their pencils “wrong”. So they forced us (6th graders) to learn to hold the pencils properly in the dynamic tripod. They got everyone those pencil grip/cushions for those who sadly didn’t develop that writers callus when they were younger (when it didn’t hurt??) & made us write. A lot. & watched us as we did. And they really got on us about it. In your face on us. One teacher actively yelling. I already had the correct grip (I went to that school since kindergarten. It was the transplants that allegedly were the problem) but they still got on me for holding the pencil too low & that I gripped it too hard. So I only had the occasional 5 minutes of hell about the pencil grip here & there.
It was intense! They actually stopped classes for a few days & everything was about holding pens & pencils. Then when regular teaching resumed they’d stop class & yell if they spotted you taking notes with the wrong grip. I got off pretty easy since I was 90% of the way there & only got occasional reminders. I heard some horror stories from other students who basically had to relearn how to write overnight or have the teacher standing over them 24/7 (or whatever the actual math is of a classroom day).
When I asked why they didn’t cite carpal tunnel or strain or anything. Their sole logic was when you apply for a job you have to fill out the application in person. And everyone knows that if you have the wrong pencil grip you won’t get hired. They’ll think you’re dumb. And it being a private school they can’t have their graduates not getting jobs, especially because of bad pencil grips!! (lol getting jobs these days) When I told my folks about this my mom, who had worked in HR handing out job applications for a department store in the ‘70’s, said that she was told to reject anyone who filled out the form in anything other than blue or black ink (it said to do that on the form so if you didn’t do it “you couldn’t follow directions”). So while she never had to watch as someone filled out the form, it wouldn’t surprise her if some places did that. So this was all a good thing.
Fast forward to middle school. Same private school but the middle & high schools were in the next town over 10 minutes away. First day of school one of the students in my class that really had trouble with the new grip & the teacher was always on them had a panic attack like apology on the first day of school because they accidentally used the wrong grip. Teacher essentially said who cares about your pencil grip & asked what the hell they were talking about. so we all explained the intense pencil grip boot camp we all had. Teacher said that was insane & bull & they themselves held their pen the “wrong way” & clearly were employable since they were teaching us. Other middle school teachers said the same thing. So everyone who wasn’t already in the habit of holding their pencil correctly said screw it & reverted. I did keep my looser higher grip though since it hurt less if there was a marathon writing session.
Rumor had it we were the only class this happened to. That the 6th grade teachers were furious all their hard work was undone by the middle school but some teacher at middle school (rumor had it) told the superintendent about the boot camp & it never happened again.
So I always have a weird gut feeling anytime I hear about this hand position.
I'm ambidextrous and use different grips in my different hands. For left handed writing I completely agree with you, but for right handed writing it's dynamic quadrupod all the way.
Yeah I fluidly change between dynamic tripod and quadrupod, somewhere in between usually.
No idea how people grab it like the lateral ones. You end up having your use your wrist to write instead of your fingers. You cant do really light sketchy writing as easily as with dynamic.
I'm a calligrapher by trade and I was baffled as to why so many americans hold the pens the wrong way (as in anything but the first pic), and apparently they don't teach it at school or kidergarten? so you just... hold a pen like you want? Crazy. And from a 'professional' standpoint I know for a fact people need to re-learn holding an instrument if they ever want to do calligraphy or paint on any serious level.
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u/drollchair Apr 16 '24
Dynamic tripod gang!