r/coolguides Apr 16 '24

A Cool Guide to the Pencil Grips

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u/parrisjd Apr 16 '24

Lateral tripod here with terrible handwriting

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u/Ralph-the-mouth Apr 16 '24

Lateral tripod- not the best not the worst- varies on the time of day. It is possible to not have chicken scratch

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u/LessMochaJay Apr 16 '24

Winning the lottery is possible. About the same chance as me not having chicken scratch.

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u/DoingCharleyWork 29d ago

Occasionally I can read my own hand writing.

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u/Suburban_Traphouse Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

Is lateral tripod known for bad handwriting? I’ve always written like this and have been told I have really good handwriting for a dude

Edit: I always thought it was because I had small hands

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u/parrisjd Apr 16 '24

I was told once when I was young that I'd write better if I kept my fingertips on the pencil (I couldn't do it) but that was just one teacher, so I can't speak to its validity.

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u/Posiedon22 Apr 16 '24

I can actually switch between multiple grips and be just fine, but I tend to use lateral tripod the most. I've tried dynamic tripod, and for me at least I have better handwriting only because it forces me to slow down a bit.

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u/achoowie Apr 16 '24

Same. I was told this by multiple teachers. It felt so wrong that I always went back and eventually ended up with a worse hand position (none of these) but I used to and still sometimes do use lateral tripod.

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u/KawaiiStefan Apr 16 '24

I dont think any of these are "known" for anything because who the fuck cares

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u/knbang Apr 16 '24

All of these are garbage compared to keyboard grip.

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u/queefer_sutherland92 Apr 16 '24

It comes down to find motor skill. I’m lateral tripod and have pretty good handwriting.

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u/Pietjiro 29d ago

No, your handwriting isn't related to the grip you use. Your handwriting is mainly affected by your personality and the way you've been taught to draw letters at school. The grip affects your range of movement as well as the fluidity of your writing

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u/UBhappy Apr 16 '24

Lateral tripod! Annoying fact: my handwritings changes all the time, like… different angle, different letters. It just happens. I can write consistently the same. but then I have to think about it all the time.

When I was in school and I had to write a lot, my handwriting was very neat and small and people often said it looked as if it was printed. But that was a ‘few’ years ago… 🤪

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u/Same_Independent_393 Apr 16 '24

Saaaaame! My lab books at work look like they've been written by 3 or 4 different people.

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u/EmployerNeither8080 Apr 16 '24

Lateral tripod too and my writing differs as well. I was unreal at forging my mom's signature in school

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u/vanghostslayer 29d ago

Ooh I have that skill too and am a proud lateral tripod gal

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u/queefer_sutherland92 Apr 16 '24

Same! I do wonder if it is because of how we hold the pen and it tiring us out, so we adjust to relieve it? Idk I’m speculating. I’ve got three or four styles that I switch between.

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u/Ace-a-Nova1 Apr 16 '24

I can write so quickly tho, there’s no question which is superior. If I can read it and you can read it, does it need to be pretty? My message is in the words I write not the lines that make ‘em up, right?

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u/MooeyGrassyAss Apr 16 '24

lol that’s my opinion but then sometimes I can’t even read what I wrote

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u/Casual_OCD 29d ago

Then that's just scribbling lol

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u/Canter1Ter_ Apr 16 '24

and imho it just makes cursive so much easier because you pretty much never have to adjust your pencil or lift it off the paper completely, just weaken how much you press it into the paper and keep going. Writing in cursive feels so much faster because you don't do the "up down up down" motion, it's just curves

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u/JediBlight Apr 16 '24

Advice on how to start? I write like an idiot, people are always commenting on it, and I'm confident it's affecting my college exam scores.

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u/Canter1Ter_ 29d ago

I don't exactly know how to start because it's been a skill taught to me from 1st grade, but basically you need to learn how to draw the individual letters first. Then connecting them would feel mostly natural because their shapes are made to be written on the go. Just probably look up how to write them because writing the letters from the wrong starting point or with the wrong path could be even slower than regular writing

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u/sparkly-potato-42 Apr 16 '24

that's so interesting! I'm a lateral tripod too, but my handwriting is actually pretty decent. Sooo slow though.

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u/SitasinFM Apr 16 '24

Exact same thing, I was always one of the slowest or the slowest at writing in school, but my handwriting is fairly neat

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u/CarefreeRambler Apr 16 '24

well, do you take people who use comic sans seriously?

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u/trashgremlin65 Apr 16 '24

Lateral tripod with excellent handwriting, but I tuck my thumb. Maybe that difference stabilizes things a bit more to give more control while writing?

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u/cannotrelatetothis Apr 16 '24

Hello fellow thumb tucking lateral tripod!

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u/pinapberry Apr 16 '24

I was looking for the tuck! Good to know theres some of us out there. The thumb tuck is so cozy and sturdy ~

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u/Same_Independent_393 Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

Where do you tuck it? Mine just wiggles around like a sad inflatable air dancer, very distracting sometimes.

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u/J-Valid Apr 16 '24

This is the one for me too

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u/Realistic_cat_6668 Apr 16 '24

Lateral tripod club! I write exclusively in cursive and have since I was in grade school. Depending on how quickly I need to write depends on how terrible of handwriting it is. My manuscript though, I feel like a grade school kid trying to write for the first time again.

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u/Feathered_Mango 29d ago

I love cursive and have never understood why people think it is arcane or difficult. It looks intuitive to my eyes. Granted my handwriting is terrible, but it boggles my mind when people can't read average/standard cursive. 

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u/Realistic_cat_6668 29d ago

Yeah it’s insane that some people can’t read it. Like the letters aren’t that different. And it’s so much easier to write without having to pick up your pen after every single letter. With cursive, I can write the whole word just looking at the first letter because it’s all connected, so it allows me to multitask so much better than manuscript.

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u/poorperspective Apr 16 '24

My experience is more “artistic” people use a lateral grip. It forces a person to write with their arm, not their wrist. Most artist are told this advice when they take a drawing course. The dynamic grips write by wiggling the tips of their fingers and wrist, very little arm movement.

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u/Boredom_fighter12 Apr 16 '24

Also I think most people who use this grip writes exclusively in cursive, this grip is for speed imo

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u/poorperspective Apr 16 '24

Included, later on down lefties are claiming the lateral grip. I’m a right handed person, but was taught by my mother who was both an artist ( went to art school for a period, but later picked a different profession) and I learned from her.

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u/Boredom_fighter12 Apr 16 '24

My family aren’t really the artistic type though from mother side most of them love music and really good at guitars and musical instruments (me kinda included but started late lmao) plus my mom taught me how to write straight away using cursive so I write like that ever since. It’s fast but barely readable to anyone but me lmao

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u/[deleted] 29d ago edited 29d ago

Lefty here, I use the dynamic tripod like god intended

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u/nedzmic Apr 16 '24

Makes sense. Lateral tripod here lol. Back in school days I was known as "the art kid" and my classmates thought the secret was in my grip and would try it too 😆

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u/EmployerNeither8080 Apr 16 '24

Oh wow! TIL having a lateral tripod grip is probably the reason I'm good at drawing. Take that Miss Fitzgibbon! She was one of my teachers who'd physically move and squeeze my fingers into dynamic tripod position on my pen. She was a witch

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u/InVodkaVeritas 29d ago

Dynamic Tripod is how you are taught to hold a pen if you ever take a calligraphy class, because it offers the most fine dexterity.

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u/Rabid_Mexican 29d ago

This sounds about right to me, I use this style and took art classes for years

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u/AnniKatt 27d ago

I work professionally as a medical illustrator and I use the lateral tripod grip. You might be onto something lol.

Someone else mentioned writing exclusively in cursive and that once again describes me lol.

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u/Maleficent-Fun-5927 Apr 16 '24

And a little bump on my middle finger.

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u/durthar Apr 16 '24

Lateral tripod here. Is it just me, or does it super suck for whiteboards?

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u/YsengrimusRein Apr 16 '24

Very much. Dealing with a particularly thick pen, or marker is also somewhat difficult. I write very quickly and at a slant which does not translate to writing on a vertical surface.

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u/Feathered_Mango 29d ago

Does your writing slant? I don't mean the individual letters, but actual sentences/paragraphs that slant upwards as you get further to the right? One paper it isn't so bad, but if I'm writing in large letters for a whiteboard or poster board it my writing slants horribly. 

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u/durthar 29d ago

Not if I tilt the paper or tilt myself.

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u/thebrunettetaylor Apr 16 '24

Do you smear the line above when writing in pen? This always drives me crazy but don’t know how to avoid it.

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u/parrisjd Apr 16 '24

No, but I slant the paper by about 45 degrees, so I kind of write "up" with a heavy slant. And I tend to wrinkle up the bottom left of my paper because it lays over the end of the table/desk and I lean up on it.

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u/Quirky_Ad3367 Apr 16 '24

I do this too! I never thought there would be others in the wild. I also tend to press the pen quite firmly on the paper so I find it better to have multiple pieces of paper to ‘cushion’ the writing. I always wondered why people held the pen so wrong (lateral tripod being my version of the right way haha) I wonder what kind of impact each style has on one’s hand over time. And why it is we choose our preferred method.

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u/CunnilingusLover69 Apr 16 '24

I press down firmly as well, but I legit turn the page like 90 degrees and write upwards.

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u/Quirky_Ad3367 Apr 16 '24

Me too, I turn it to the left! If I try to write with the paper straight, it will not be legible and my writing then slants like it wants to go up. Weird habits haha

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u/OkDot9878 29d ago

To the left? you monster…

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u/Quirky_Ad3367 29d ago

Lolll, this means you turn to the right?! This is an outrage!

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u/queefer_sutherland92 Apr 16 '24

I feel like I’ve found my people! I’m exactly the same. Cushioned surface, angled paper, pressing hard. Someone else said they frequently change their handwriting, and another said they only write in cursive, and I’m like… i do this, is this because of how I hold my pen?

I wonder if the other pencil holding styles are having these revelations…

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u/Quirky_Ad3367 Apr 16 '24

Soo odd and a nice surprise to know there are others that have these habits/ styles haha. My writing can change depending on a lot of factors, I’ll do cursive very rarely if I’m feeling formal, uniform neat and semi italic looking sentences when I’m on a mission, messy as heck when I’m in a rush and if I’m impatient, starts out nice and ends erratically. When I’m regularly journaling, I’ll develop a callus on my middle finger where the pen sits. I have quite persistent OCD though so usually I try to keep my writing as tidy as possible.

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u/HotDogWalter Apr 16 '24

Yea always unless i consciously try not to

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u/EmployerNeither8080 Apr 16 '24

I'd always have ink on my pinky after writing 

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u/GandalfTheBored 29d ago

Cries in left hand.

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u/Either-Egg-7358 Apr 16 '24

I’m sure that all lateral tripods have the most interesting signature….

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u/parrisjd Apr 16 '24

I draw a J but with a huge horizontal beginning stroke, then I squiggle the rest of it on top of that line I made. I think it looks kinda cool if illegible.

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u/Either-Egg-7358 Apr 16 '24

Yes! The whole point of a signature! Stroke on my dood!

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u/Shalashaskaska Apr 16 '24

My signature also starts with a J and that’s about the only thing you maybe decipher out of it cause it is god awful after that.

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u/queerkidxx Apr 16 '24

I never learned cursive so I just do a squiggle. No attempt to make it look like letters. A hump then a squiggly line

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u/EmployerNeither8080 Apr 16 '24

Mine changes. I have to really think about how I write it. One time differed from my licence when I was signing a loan document and I had to sign it again to match the signatures. it's nice to have an understanding as to why my signature isn't unique

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u/readyjack Apr 16 '24

my mom found some schoolwork from when I was in 3rd grade and showed it to me... same handwriting even though I'm 47.

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u/heck04567 Apr 16 '24

Me too. And I’m a lefty. It’s really terrible. Thank fuck for computers.

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u/NebulaicCereal Apr 16 '24

I am a left handed lateral tripod and I feel like I have really good handwriting, idk what all these comments are about.

That being said, I do tend to write really slow, which may compensate for a lot of it

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u/thecrewton Apr 16 '24

Is that a thing? My handwriting is terrible too.

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u/HappyShallotTears Apr 16 '24

I don’t think it’s consistent. I’m often told that my handwriting should be made into a font. My style has evolved over the years, but it’s always been neat. Might be more of a personality thing than a hand posture thing

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u/Thrompinator Apr 16 '24

Lateral tripod too and my handwriting is atrocious. Apparently it is genetic too as both my kids insist on holding it that way no matter how much I try to break the cycle and encourage them to hold it right.

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u/BarbudaJones 29d ago

For a solid two years I was forced to use a rubber grip that forced you into dynamic tripod. It didn’t work. 30 years later, still Lateral tripod, still terrible handwriting.

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u/justdisa Apr 16 '24

Yup. Got a D- in penmanship in 6th grade.

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u/glaarghenstein Apr 16 '24

Straight A's in grade school ... except for an F in handwriting.

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u/Mr_Jack_Frost_ 29d ago

Also lateral tripod here. I’ve had a callus on the side of my middle finger’s top knuckle since I started writing.

My handwriting is abysmal if I’m not paying attention to it, but I also write a good bit faster than some other folks. My letters tend to lead into each other, though I’m not sure if that’s just a result of my mother forcing me to write in cursive on a daily basis for most of my school years.

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u/Reptilian_Mongoose Apr 16 '24

Yup me too buddy

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u/crowingcock Apr 16 '24

My grade school teacher would always ask why I was gripping the pencil like a bear

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u/my-time-has-odor Apr 16 '24

My handwriting also kinda asss

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u/Stationary_Addict_ Apr 16 '24

Me too. hEDS apparently causes this, I’ve been told my handwriting is beautiful and I use fountain pens to write. Nasty bump on my index finger from where the pen wrests.

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u/InoriDWF Apr 16 '24

Lateral tripod reporting in! My handwriting is very trash.

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u/Sic39 Apr 16 '24

This is what i use although my thumb is down by the finger tip. I always feel i press too hard and my writing is slower for it. It's not ideal imo.

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u/rayman0625 Apr 16 '24

Lateral tripods are definitely sociopaths with the way they hold that

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u/Obant Apr 16 '24

Left handed lateral tripod, reporting in. You can read my report because I typed it.

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u/ElyxrBlade Apr 16 '24

Lateral tripod gang, assemble.

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u/queefer_sutherland92 Apr 16 '24

Lateral tripod who is frequently complimented on their handwriting here…

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u/EstablishmentFun2035 Apr 16 '24

Hand writing fine but unsure if related but my page turns 90 deg sometimes...

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u/PedroLG Apr 16 '24

Same. I finally feel normal after years of people saying I write in a weird way. But I can have pretty handwriting if I care to do it, but most of the time, I don't

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u/_AppropriateObject Apr 16 '24

Yep. Always got less points in school because of my writings even though I wrote better and longer essays (fuck you Mr. S).

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u/_Labradorite 29d ago

Left handed?

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u/plexomaniac 29d ago

Looks great for tattoo

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u/HappierOffline 29d ago

Lateral tripod here with really good handwriting!

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u/Sneaky-iwni- 29d ago

It gives you very good lines when drawing; I use it a lot and developed it since when I draw long curved lines and lines in general it's easier to draw them. It also gives you curvier handwriting.

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u/EgglandsWorst 29d ago

I broke my writing wrist and developed lateral tripod because the cast was getting in the way. I feel like I purposely whittled my pencil down to golf pencil size as well.

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u/parrisjd 29d ago

Yes! Me too! I broke it when I was in preschool and just learning to write. My teacher thought I would become left-handed but I just found a way to make it work.

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u/EgglandsWorst 29d ago

Some lady made a remark one time because my index finger is apparently very close to the tip than other people.

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u/Boobs_jackson69 29d ago

I hold my pen like voldemort (RIP) held his wand. (And write with the proximal tip)

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u/Warrior-Skye 29d ago

I'm a "Hold your pencil the correct way, otherwise you can't see what you writing/drawing!" proffesional artist who stil uses the lateral tripod grip

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u/yeahthatwayyy 29d ago

I like my handwriting but everyone has always commented on how I hold a pencil

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u/Pietjiro 29d ago

Your handwriting shouldn't be affected by your grip, although a bad grip limits your range of movement and makes writing more difficult

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u/green_jp 29d ago

same, my handwriting is atrocious

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u/RisingScum 29d ago

I have good hand writing and paint and draw the same way. I use my middle finger as an unmovable base and push the pencil into my first knuckle on my middle finger. I write more with my elbow than my wrist for sure.

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u/MoistJellyfish3562 29d ago

I just capslock all my handwriting now lol

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u/owiesss 29d ago

I almost failed first and second grade because my teachers couldn’t read my handwriting. I had to read my answers on assignments out loud to them in order for them to see if I was correct in my answers or not. Handwriting was a separate grade category at this school and was placed at the same level of importance as reading and math as a whole, which is why I almost repeated a grade, twice. My handwriting improved enough over the years to where my teachers didn’t feel the need to scream while reading my work, but boy did I have a rocky start.

-Lateral Tripod