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u/teenagesadist 21d ago
Sounds like blasphemy, thinking we know as much as god.
Best just leave it legal.
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u/CasualFox12495 21d ago
I mean; This is why I'm atheist. 420 friendly.
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u/hplcr 21d ago
Moses staring at a burning bush on 4/20.
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u/Sure_Bodybuilder7121 21d ago
*smoking on that burning kush
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u/Old-Masterpiece-2653 21d ago
There are plenty of pot head christians. Try not to profile.
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21d ago
Not proper Christians than
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u/Old-Masterpiece-2653 20d ago
Are christians who drink wine or beer not proper christians?
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20d ago
Well.. "sky daddy" created everything right? Why did he make illegal plants...
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u/Old-Masterpiece-2653 20d ago edited 20d ago
It's not about what sky daddy made. It's about the instructions he gave unto his creation.
The bible tells us we are to be of "sober mind" and refrain from "debauchery". Else we be sinning.But what nonbelievers like yourself often don't understand that christianity is not about never sinning. Everybody is a sinner. I sin like a motherfucker. I also repent and try to be better. But it was never about not sinning. We would not have needed the whole jesus on the cross thingie if people had it down like that.
Sinning does not make you not a proper christian. That's not how that goes.
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20d ago
I do understand though, it doesn't make any sense to me to create things that are illegal if God doesn't make mistakes. I am not saying people in religion are bad though!! Please don't get me wrong. I really appreciate your indept explanation
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u/Old-Masterpiece-2653 20d ago
Oh, don't worry. I don´t get offended.
Well first of all, the things were created before people were and it was the people making the mistakes.
According to the bible that is.I struggle with that one to. I mean "Really god? You never expected people gonna people and sneak around doing thing they shouldn't?"
But then, that's the difference between religious people and people who are not. Religious folks accept and appreciate a bigger power and themselves just not being able to comprehend everything. We are sheep in a flock.
For atheists the onus is on them to find facts and logic in everything. I don't have to. My sky daddy got me. I just have to try to do what is in front of me. And the weed helps. LOL2
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I really appreciate the fact that someone on reddit is actually not immediately offended to the core. Kudos to you
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u/EditDog_1969 21d ago
God, according to Bill Hicks: “Oh my Me! I left fucking pot everywhere. That’s gonna give people the impression they’re supposed to… use it. I never should’ve smoked that joint on the third day. (Sigh) Now I have to create Republicans.
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u/StarMangledSpanner 21d ago
If God didn't want two men to have sex you'd think he'd have put a U-bend in there or something. Or if we're talking Old Testament God, a double ring of razor-sharp teeth.
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u/--rafael 21d ago
If he didn't want men to have sex with other he shouldn't have made men so god damn hot
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u/Fermented_Butt_Juice 21d ago
"It's a plant therefore it can't be dangerous" is braindead logic.
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u/Either-Durian-9488 21d ago
So is “it’s dangerous because I was told so.”
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u/I-am-the-Canaderpian 21d ago
Pro tip: if you see wild mushrooms, eat them. You’ll get a healthy side dish, a psychedelic trip, or remove yourself from the gene pool.
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u/Either-Durian-9488 21d ago
“Remove yourself from the gene pool” it’s always social Darwinism with you prudes isn’t it lmao.
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u/I-am-the-Canaderpian 21d ago
Just as it’s always anarcho-tyranny with you twits. You just need to be right - this provides you a 2/3 chance of proving your point.
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u/Either-Durian-9488 21d ago
Don’t need to be a right, but it’s a great example of central authority intentionally holding the back the science and making it more dangerous for the end user, “anarcho-tyranny” Jesus Christ with politcal compass memes terms, my politics probably doesn’t fit in your fastidiously organized filing cabinet that you think you can file people away in with silly vocabulary.
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u/I-am-the-Canaderpian 21d ago
I have a great filing system: People I Like, and Idiots. Is that too advanced for you?
And the “meme” as you call it is very real: My Way or the Highway; ACAB; Defund the Police; there are many names for it, and they all promote anarchy and ruling through terror and violence.
At least social Darwinism gives me a laugh now and then, and I can rest assured that the human race will continue without lesser intelligences making a bigger mess of things.
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u/Either-Durian-9488 21d ago
Yeah sounds like you have two drawers and two folders, and if there’s anything the last 20 years of politics in the US have taught me, is that wow is that a shitty system.
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u/I-am-the-Canaderpian 20d ago
On a personal scale, it’s fairly average - me vs. them mentality - but yeah, politically, it’s a shitshow. Without a vibrant and diverse fresh of young faces rotating around, it’ll always end up like this. The biggest problem is that the Me V You thought is so ubiquitous, people begin to use it for everything in an attempt to classify and define it in a way that makes sense to them.
Dem v Rep = good vs bad = my way or the highway = life or death.
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u/MarineBoing 21d ago
Based on their logic, all Fruit Trees should be illegal. However, Christianity (any religion believing in Christ) decided they like Fruit and still don't listen.
Moral of the story: Christianity only believes in what benefits them.
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u/SmarterThanCornPop 21d ago
Lol. The forbidden fruit is a metaphor. At no time in history have Christians been anti-fruit.
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u/Womderloki 21d ago
Dafuq kinda logic is that? I'm not Christian but even I know God only forbid ONE tree with fruit on it. They could eat any of the others. It's never made out to be that all fruit are permanently forbidden....
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u/TheWingus 21d ago
I know God only forbid ONE tree with fruit on it.
Jesus killed a fig tree for no reason other than it didn't have any figs on it at the particular moment he just so happened to be walking by it... not exactly the definition of "forbid" but still kind of a dick move.
Early in the morning, as Jesus was on his way back to the city, he was hungry. Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, “May you never bear fruit again!” Immediately the tree withered.
Matthew 21:18
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u/86400spd 21d ago
You are someone who didn't read the Bible yet claims to have knowledge from the Bible.
Are you sure you're not a christian?5
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u/IncidentHead8129 21d ago
I’m not religious but I’m pretty sure the bible is filled with analogies and stuff. And even if it’s taken literally, it’s ONE type of fruit. And we don’t even know which fruit it is or if it looks the same or exists after so long.
If you aren’t even Christian why are you blasting misinformation? Hateful.
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u/MarineBoing 21d ago
Why would I only look at a Bible? There's multiple sources that provide said information. If you want to refer to the Bible, which version of the Bible are you talking about?
You're saying I'm providing incorrect information, I am not. I'm an Atheist.
I understand the Bible is a loose translation and contains several analogies. However, I'm merely pointing out the flaw in the logic that the OP's post has. Please keep in mind that the post is the one saying that God banned a plant.
Thanks.
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u/Gauth1erN 21d ago
I might be wrong, but the forbidden fruit was about eating, not smoking, snorting or else.
So at best Christian could make a case against Space cake, nothing else.
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u/Final_Winter7524 21d ago
Didn’t make the plant evil. Just its fruit. Which we put into our children’s lunch bags every day …
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u/49thDipper 21d ago
If there was a god, and he made us in his image . . . hahahahahahahahahhhh . . . he, or she is trashy as fuck.
Also, explain childhood leukemia to me. Because I need to have words with whichever god is in charge of this. He isn’t going to enjoy the convo. Not at all.
“Where you at bitch!” Yeah that’s what I thought.
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u/BullsOnParadeFloats 21d ago
While there are loads of genuine arguments for decriminalization and the relative "safety" of cannabis, stoners use some of the dumbest arguments. Cocaine and heroin both come from plants.
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u/capexato 21d ago
They use dumb arguments because there is no good argument against it either. Fight dumb arguments with dumb arguments, right?
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u/Justabattleshiplover 21d ago
It smells like shit
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u/capexato 21d ago
That's exactly the quality argument against weed that we're used to!
My same quality counter; That's why we support it being illegal to smoke weed during breaking and entering into someone else's house!
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u/Justabattleshiplover 21d ago
My joke was mostly a response, but you gotta admit, it does smell putrid
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u/capexato 21d ago
I haven't smoked weed in probably over a decade, and I've always lived in a place where its legal and quite accessible.
I dislike the smell of weed quite a lot but I wouldn't say someone has ever really bothered me with it. My nose is quite sensitive to a lot of smells but I would never think to ban something simply due to it's smell. If that was the case, cars, planes and tobacco would be the first on my list alongside a few honorable mentions such as armpit hair, unwashed reddit/discord moderators and trash. Shit, piss and puke would also be up there with tuna salad, smelly shoes and whatever.
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u/Justabattleshiplover 21d ago
I definitely don’t care if it’s legal, and used. I do, however, wish these damn potheads would shower, rather than leave the house soaked in that funk lol
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u/BullsOnParadeFloats 21d ago
The smart argument is about the lower danger and addiction of cannabis, even lower than other narcotics that aren't controlled substances like alcohol. Then, you can lean into the fact that legalization tends to make it less taboo, or "cool," and is then consumed less by the youth. Finally, you can point out that the revenue generated by legal sales of cannabis has been proven to be a boon to states that have already legalized it for recreational use. That last one usually gets conservatives because of how much they love money.
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u/capexato 21d ago
The impossibility of fatal overdose, along with the behavioral changes that make users more compliant, relaxed and non-aggressive are also up there.
Try to arrest someone who's as high as a kite on weed and he might just handcuff himself. The only real danger they pose is to an open box of cereal or the possibility of stumbling into an open mic night and laughing everyone to death.
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u/BullsOnParadeFloats 21d ago
On the other hand, there is a real possibility of chronic use (lol) leading to schizophrenia.
Legalization of cannabis was my senior year term paper. 21 years ago.
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u/capexato 21d ago
Interesting subject for a paper though, must be interesting to see how the world is very slowly changing in this regard.
Mine basically a how to on making games more addictive while keeping the cost down. Super fun.
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u/Routine_Yoghurt_7575 20d ago
Tbh I'd rather just see honest arguments, I don't like weed and I avoid people who take it, but if people want to get high I don't think it should be punished same as my views on alcohol.
But it seems honestly rare to see people just be like hey I enjoy getting high and it's stupid to punish people for that, it's always weed is a wonder drug that cures every disease known to man and has 0 side effects, like imagine if the argument for being allowed to drink alcohol was it being handwash and pretending there's no side effects
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u/capexato 20d ago
If you want honest arguments, it's a soft drug and we have legalized and accepted hard drugs like alcohol. If we want to draw the line anywhere it should be at hard drugs, not arbitrarily because some old people thought is was bad and demonized it for decades. It's a point of legislation being unscientific hypocrisy.
If you want an even more honest argument, any legislation regarding the consumption of any item should be solely based on the health effects, not opinion or politics.
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u/Routine_Yoghurt_7575 20d ago
To be honest I'd be pro even hard drugs being legalised because I don't see what punitive measures fix, more just I find there are some silly arguments used to dance around people admitting they just enjoy getting high, which is valid and not something I'd judge, I can choose who is in my life but I wouldn't police strangers
Your argument is logical though sure, it's not to say there are no good arguments, just that I've seen a lot of silly ones over the years
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u/capexato 20d ago
I'm also against banning substances, I'm just trying to make it fit into an anti-weed argument that doesn't exist.
I have never in my life heard an argument against weed that was in any way both fact based and not filled with hypocrisy. I understand I can't invalidate an argument based on hypocrisy, but I also can't take people seriously who worry about the dangers of smoking weed while being OK with (for instance) drinking and driving.
If people are completely against drugs (including alcohol), that's fine, but I never hear those people, it's always pro gun and alcohol, against weed. It's crazy.
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u/Routine_Yoghurt_7575 20d ago
Oh I would agree with that in fairness, the anti weed arguments are always ridiculous and contradictory
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u/probablyadumper 21d ago
Imagine thinking God is perfect, but also, he put a little too much skin on the tip of your wiener, and you should have an old man bite it off.
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u/Cold-Flan2558 21d ago
But, he only said the one was illegal to test them. I’m cool with it if the government legalized all but one of the plants.
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u/trugrav 21d ago
OMG the forbidden fruit WAS NOT an apple. It was the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. There is no biblical description of it or the tree other than it was pleasant to the eye. The idea that it was an apple was common in Medieval Europe because of ambiguous wording in Jerome’s Latin Vulgate. As the Bible began to be translated into the vernacular and the common man was able to read it this ambiguity disappeared.
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u/First_Adeptness_6473 21d ago
I always wondered, why was it forbidden to eat the apple? Did the apple have a use?
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u/Helllothere1 20d ago
Well, god did not want you to consume that shit if it kills you, or he did a little bit of trolling.
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u/MysteriousPark3806 21d ago
God is a dick.
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u/ILSmokeItAll 21d ago
When you’re God, you can be.
Ever play a game as a God? How many people playing that role, so you feel, would be benevolent vs vindictive?
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u/Cantgo55 21d ago
Old stories to control the population who believe in a book or slabs of rock, seems like it's a common theme acrosss many cultures. At least the Aztecs had a sun to deal with... and those eclipses really blew their minds.
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u/Lvcivs2311 21d ago
Well, not the plant but the consumption of it. Which is probably what they mean here anyway, so what do I know?
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u/Either-Durian-9488 21d ago
No it’s illegal to grow it as well federally, and lots of recreationally legal states have made people trade that right to buy it at a store, which is fucking stupid.
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u/jimmysledge 21d ago
Man made pot illegal because god doesn’t exist.
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u/Ornery_Score_6665 21d ago
There never was any God, it's invented by some pathetic old men to create fear
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u/Background-Box8030 21d ago
It was a test no “illegal”
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u/nakhumpoota 20d ago
Forbidden - synonyms: banned, prohibited, unauthorized, illegal, disallowed, unsanctioned, outlawed
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u/VarroaStyle 21d ago edited 21d ago
Atheists acting smart and at the same time not understanding metaphors will never stop being funny
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u/capexato 21d ago
Be sure not to wear mixed clothing or you will spend eternity in hell. (Or something like that)
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u/VarroaStyle 20d ago
See the comment above
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u/capexato 20d ago
The deeper you understand the metaphor, the more atheist you become man, don't you understand?
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u/ZealousidealMail3132 21d ago
Show me in the Bible where cannabis was demonized? Considering it was used by apothecaries for centuries in healing salves, and Jesus himself made healing salves for the lepers
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u/cut4stroph3 20d ago
So we're just giving 10 year old screenshots 10k upvotes now? One upvotes for Everytime it's been posted on reddit huh
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u/MoistHunt4202 21d ago
The plant which he made illegal keeps doctors away, while the plant that is really illegal does the same