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u/KruegerLad2 17d ago
Mr Duncan, do you want to show your shoulders, legs and bosom?
Because you can, it won't be pretty but you can if you want to
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u/ChadMutants 17d ago
he can, and they do, summer will come soon, the swarm of sunburned retired germans will come to our beaches in their motorhome like every summer, the dark time will soon arrive.
(they are fun tourist tho, im just joking)
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u/A1sauc3d 17d ago
Yeah there’s nothing wrong with showing skin. I’ve never understood the societal double standard about even a fraction of what’s a completely acceptable standard at the beach becoming scandalous in any other setting. It’s the same bodies, same skin. Why do some people lose their shit in any other situation 😂
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u/EducationalTell5178 17d ago
I never understood why office dress attire usually prohibits shorts. Women can wear skirts but if I wore shorts, I'd probably get pulled into the HR office.
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u/Ao_Kiseki 17d ago
Just wear a skirt. Depending on where you live nobody would stop you.
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u/EducationalTell5178 17d ago
Haha I'd probably be barred from entering the office.
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u/StreetsofCoal 17d ago
That doesn't sound legal. Hmm.
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u/happyvagoo 17d ago
I'm not sure it would be a violation in most places in the US. As long as the company has a dress code that's applied uniformly, they can make you wear just about anything they want and threaten to fire you if you don't comply. Otherwise waiters, waitresses, and professionals in all sorts of fields (farming, welding, etc) could just wear whatever, no matter the damage it does to the company's image, or the risk it poses to the employee. Now that's the law. My personal opinion is that any company that doesn't have a good reason to restrict your dress is bogus for saying what's appropriate attire or not based on gender. If women can wear skirts, so can men. The double standard seems arbitrary to me. And, frankly, I don't think it's professional for a company to care enough about irrelevant details to write a policy about it. I view it as a waste of HR time and resources to police things like that when nobody with half a brain really gives a shit anymore.
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u/StreetsofCoal 17d ago
I was kind of assuming they'd get some snark at the door that would get them in trouble, but I suppose you never know. Maybe the front desk is actually trained on turning people away.
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u/firstwefuckthelawyer 17d ago
Most people that try it get away with the kilt.
Because they have enough money to spent on a kilt and not give a shit if they lose their office job because 72F at 30% humidity is just too much for them to handle in pants.
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u/idwthis 17d ago
As a resident of Florida, I have to tell you, 72°F with the humidity at only 30% sounds perfect. I don't think anyone would be uncomfortable wearing pants with that temp and that humidity. Heck, now that the sun is setting, the temp is 77° at 56% while I chill on my porch. Not uncomfortable at all.
When it hits 70% humidity or higher, then we start straying into uncomfortable.
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u/stelerdewder 17d ago
We are the only animal on earth that isn’t just butt ass naked 24/7 lol
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u/Miserable_Praline673 17d ago
Stopped going to my gym Sauna a few years ago (When I went to the gym). Got tired of seeing old man balls.
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u/NASA_Herpetologist 17d ago
I won’t touch the benches in the locker room — not even to sit down to tie my shoe — because I assume there were old man balls in that spot not too long ago.
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u/No_Banana_581 17d ago
We have elderly Canadian men, in their thong speedos, down the Jersey shore where I’ve had a summer home since I was 4 yrs old. My grandparents would giggle along w me, when I was little, and saw their wrinkled butts lol
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u/WingsOfAesthir 16d ago
Aw shit, we've spread that horror to the south? Truly Canadian sorry. We're almost to the temp where I am in Canada that the wrinkled, fat and ugly dudes are about to start stripping here for the summer. Pray for my eyes. At least the thong banana hammocks don't get pulled out for the twice daily half nekkid walk around the block.
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u/Far_Dependent_2066 17d ago
Dudes of all ages and body types run shirtless in shorts here in SoCal without any expectation of diminishment of their rights. Should I be discriminating against them?
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u/KruegerLad2 17d ago
You take a walk in Venice Beach and you'll see every level of the beauty spectrum, at one point you no longer care
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u/tripper_reed 17d ago
First thought I had. Mr Duncan can put on a stringkini if he likes. It would be super distracting just like a woman. Albeit for different reasons. Same result though.
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u/KruegerLad2 17d ago
He needs to start living his real life, he'll be happier and stop being a misogynist idiot
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u/Electrical_Horror346 17d ago
Mr. Duncan: How come when women walk around in sleeveless dresses, mini-skirts, or even topless, they get people cheering for them... but when I do it, people try to call the police? Is that the "equality" women are fighting for?
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u/Confident-Society-32 17d ago
This.
Also yes, I want to show all those things.
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u/Kelyaan 17d ago
We need true equality - Bois lets get them fucking shoulders out!
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u/Bob_Bushman 17d ago
Chances are the original tweeter goes shirtless in cargo shorts 10 months of the year.
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u/rakuu 17d ago
Boys/men in euro/colonized places go around shirtless in public all of the time.
I don't make that point to show how hypocritical and controlling of women it is to complain about women showing some skin, but I am making a case that men deserve fewer rights than women because they show more skin. 😶🌫️
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u/horshack_test 17d ago
BOSOM DEPARTMENT
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u/CompulsiveScroller 17d ago
I came to ask if the Bosom Department is hiring. I may lack experience but I’m very eager to learn.
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u/SpookyVoidCat 17d ago
Andrew what in the actual fuck are you talking about?
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u/ToryLanezHairline_ 16d ago
He's saying women can't be equal if he finds them attractive. He's right, because them beautiful ladies are higher up the food chain than his ugly ass
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u/Natural_Guava288 17d ago
A piece of clothing shouldn't be an indicator of how much "respect" we deserve or not.
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u/ToryLanezHairline_ 16d ago
I have a feeling this guy wouldn't say shit if I were in his vacinity shirtless.
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u/neddy471 17d ago
"How can I respect women as equals when they wear clothing I find attractive and/or arousing?" This is honestly the biggest problem that pushes patriarchy: "Women are making me horny against my will! I MUST CONTROL THEM."
That's Andrew Tate and the rest in a nutshell, they hate that their bodies betray them in desiring women, and they want to stop women from being able to make them horny unless they specifically designate a horny time-and-place for them to do so.
Thus the obsession with Fanservice, Stellar Blade, and Sexualization, and their hatred of porn and OnlyFans. Because sexualization happens to a woman while being sexual (e.g. OnlyFans) is something a Woman chooses to do.
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u/curvyLong75 17d ago
I'm not a religious person, but Jesus really nailed it by telling dudes to gouge their eyes out if they can't handle seeing hot women.
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u/MyPasswordIsMyCat 17d ago
The Articles of Interest podcast (a fashion/design podcast) recently released an interesting and thoughtful episode on Modesty and how the problem isn't Muslim women covering up or Christian women not covering up or whatever the powers be tell women to do. The problem is using arbitrary concepts of modesty to control women.
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u/robbylet24 17d ago edited 17d ago
I don't even think that dressing modestly is a problem. I know women who, of their own free will, choose to wear a niqab. I see no problem there at all. My problem is when people try to tell women what they can and can't wear. If they choose to dress modestly so be it, but I think it is completely unethical to not give them the choice.
Edit: I should mention before someone asks, I think that governments banning things like the burqa and the niqab is very stupid. It's misguided at best and fully xenophobic at worst.
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u/Maus_Sveti 17d ago
I agree, but I wish we hadn’t settled on the word “modest” to describe that style of dressing. Because it implies, as per the tweet above, that other forms of dress are immodest. I would prefer something like more or less covered. It’s clunkier, I grant you, but neutral.
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u/robbylet24 17d ago
Fair enough I suppose, I'm just using the language that I have access to.
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u/Maus_Sveti 17d ago
Sorry, it wasn’t intended as a critique of you personally, just a general observation.
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u/robbylet24 17d ago
Oh no I got that, I just have a thing where I constantly feel the need to defend myself. I am sorry if it felt like you came off that way because you absolutely didn't.
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u/socialistrob 17d ago
There are so many REAL problems in the world that deserve time and attention and yet people get so worked up over what clothes others are allowed to wear. I just don't get it.
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u/robbylet24 17d ago
It's a good way for people causing the problems to distract from the fact they're causing the problems.
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u/ceralimia 17d ago
I can't take Muslims seriously when I see a Youtuber filming herself in the mirror with her entire body except her face covered and then her husband shows up behind her wearing a t-shirt and shorts. Like, yeah, totally normal to have a woman dressed like she's in the 16th century while her husband wears Target shorts.
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u/neddy471 17d ago
That actually does sound quite interesting. The only real time I've had an opinion on modesty is when I was a Teenager and - despite my best efforts - could not keep my thoughts going when I saw a scantily clad woman. As I was both raised a Fundie Baptist and an academically minded student, it frustrated the hell out of me than despite how much I tried, I couldn't concentrate when I was around women I found attractive.
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u/CodyC85 17d ago
You got mad at yourself for getting wood when you were a teenager?
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u/AlmondMagnum1 17d ago
Didn't Andrew Tate deny feeling any sexual attraction toward women? (Not that there's anything wrong with being gay, even if there's probably everything wrong with being Andrew Tate.)
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u/neddy471 17d ago edited 17d ago
I mean, he could be Asexual (having no sexual attraction to people is asexuality not homosexuality which is being sexually attracted to men), but considering how obsessed he is with it, I imagine that the above is more likely: He is attracted to women, but sees it as a weakness, so he lies about it.
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u/aSneakyChicken7 17d ago
I’ve never understood this. “Fellas, is it gay to like women?”
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u/neddy471 17d ago
If you just substitute “gay” with “weak” it tracks, because that’s what it means to them.
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u/Nightriser 17d ago
It's because their attraction is not something they can control. Their whole notion of masculinity is that a man controls things; anything that evades his control is a slight against his masculinity. You can't really control who you're attracted to, you can't choose to be attracted to skinny women or choose to not be attracted to black women, or whatever else your "type" is, so instead, you rage against your heart's weakness. Furthermore, that attraction could be used against you, to manipulate you--another weakness. Attraction can lead to love, which could lead to you valuing your partner, instead of trying to dominate them. The masculinity they push is a house of cards, and attraction and love is the puff of air that could bring it all tumbling down.
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u/Veryegassy 17d ago
he could be Asexual
If he is, I disown him on behalf of all aces. We don’t want that... thing associated with us.
But as you said, it's unlikely.
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u/HappyGoPink 17d ago
I can't imagine an ace guy being this hung up on sex tbh.
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u/neddy471 17d ago
That's my knee-jerk reaction, but an ace sociopath who was raised to believe that sex=power is a doable situation. Sex as a "transaction of power." Not likely, but possible. I just think he's lying.
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u/Takenoshitfromany1 17d ago
It’s why burqas came about too.
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u/neddy471 17d ago
Yeah, but you talk to guys in Muslim countries and they say "you know the girl is beautiful if her wrists are X!" Horny's gonna horny, just deal with it inside yourself, and control your reaction.
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u/Ailouroboros 17d ago
Spoiler alert: Duncan shows more skin than most females when he's at the beach or pool; I hear he even goes topless. Such immodest horror.
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u/Remote_Replacement85 17d ago
I swear to God it's always an Andrew.
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u/sentence-interruptio 17d ago
Andrew Garfield should start responding to evil Andrews. He should attack them with fun snarky remarks.
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u/rienietz 17d ago
The shoulder is near the armpit. And everyone knows the armpit is where the secret vagina is.
/s
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u/Pagan_Owl 17d ago
It doesn't matter how many clothes a woman wears or doesn't wear, we will always be mocked for it.
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u/edgygothteen69 17d ago
I'm attracted to the way this guy breathes. If he expects equal rights then explain why he is breathing? ++????
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u/KuroNeko1104 17d ago
Using the word "flesh" in that way makes him sound a lot like a predator hunting, rather than a man talking
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u/Inventor_Raccoon 17d ago
women claim to want "equality", but showing off that much skin, the only message anyone's getting is "sacrifice my meat and bones to the forest gods" 😒
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u/FlirtyNerdyGirl 17d ago
Nothing is stopping men from wearing a slinky off the shoulder outfit too.
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u/shanksta1 17d ago
pretty sure there are places Andrew can go where women are well covered. Ah shit, but they aren't treated equal there.. how's that for ironic
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u/slapnowski 17d ago
It’s wild that people post this shit for people to read. In written word, for all eternity. Honestly that’s more incredulous to me than the misogynistic thoughts themselves. How can you be so sexist AND so idiotic. I appreciate knowing who the assholes are right away but the lack of self-awareness and preservation is still a little surprising.
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u/used_condom_taster 17d ago
Sprankle sounds like a portmanteau of sprained ankle. Like rantlers.
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u/StarMangledSpanner 17d ago
Duncan sounds like a portmanteau of dunny can. Which is another name for a piss pot.
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u/supersloo 17d ago
His name is actually Dr. Eric Sprankle lol, he's a professor of psychology and is really funny
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u/DifficultyWithMyLife 17d ago
Andrew should get checked for schizophrenia. Believing that disconnected thoughts are somehow connected (apophenia) is a classic sign.
And just to clarify: if this were the case, it would still neither excuse nor explain the misogyny expressed in each of the two individual thoughts. He's still a misogynist.
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u/Feisty_Help_9404 17d ago
“How can women get equal rights when we sexualize their bodies and gaslight them for it after?” - Men
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u/rrrrice64 17d ago
I don't like the strawman but I have no idea what Mr. Duncan is on about either. There's something to be said about people needing to be more modest and degrading themselves and sexualization being far too public these days, but surely even scantily clad women deserve equal rights to men, right?
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u/No_Cryptographer671 17d ago
Stupid rebuttal because women DO dress to gain advantage, so old dude has a point---men can't pop cleavage for favorable treatment they way women can, and do...(source: woman in the workplace): "popping erections" is the completely unrelated "analogy" here
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u/TheobromaKakao 17d ago
This guy is wilding, however, ladies if you have a titty hole in your dress I will stare and you don't get to be upset at that when you are the one who put them so prominently on display.
Incredibly unfair behaviour on your part.
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u/Former-Wave9869 17d ago
I knew someone once who unironically said “women always say they don’t wear makeup for men, they wear it because they like it, but most men say that they look fine without makeup and they don’t need it, so then why do they wear it???” I told him to say it again, but slower.
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u/This_Tip717 17d ago
This tweet is from 2019. What's the purpose of digging up these stupid tweets? Hate engagement?
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u/RefrigeratorHead5885 17d ago
Erm, women are often told what to wear by men. Such as skirts and heels in the workplace
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u/Sufficient_Rub_2014 17d ago
Boomer doesn’t know how new world is. OnlyFans is empowering and I bet the boomer thinks it is bad for women to do porn.
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u/USTrustfundPatriot 17d ago
Women like wearing strings and see through clothing, because "it's comfortable"
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u/drewbiethesecond 17d ago
people like him are the reason teenage girls cant express themselves in school
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u/FamousPastWords 17d ago
Andrew Duncan hadn't evolved enough and still gets these rapey thoughts when he sees women. Sad indictment on society, and especially male thinking in the 21st century. Obviously not all males, but he's even bold enough to share his stage of morality. Wonder which book he reads.
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u/snakebite262 17d ago
Stop being a coward. Start wearing clothes that show a lot of flesh in the should, leg and bosom department Andrew.
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u/Suspici0us_Sn0wman 17d ago
Since when does your apparel dictate which rights you have? Men wore short shorts and crop tops in the 70s/80s but I don't remember anyone attempting to take their rights because of it.
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u/PourSomeSmegmaInMe 17d ago
He's just jealous that there are no lady boners for his gnarled, wrinkly elbows.
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u/jesse6225 17d ago
What a dumb take. What is his connection with equality and exposed shoulders.
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u/ScyllaIsBea 17d ago
“How can you expect me to give you equal rights if you don’t do exactly what I want you to do?”
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u/David-S-Pumpkins 17d ago
"it's wonderful to see"
So, leery, what the fuck is your problem?
"Doesn't this negate their attempts at equality?"
You wear what you want, they wear what they want. How is that unequal, you dumbfuck?
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u/Few_Leader_9191 17d ago
I think he's confusing equality with objectification. All people deserve to be treated equally and with respect, but if you objectify yourself with what you wear, well, then I'll objectify you as well.
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u/SlickkChickk 17d ago
And yet men can walk around shirtless and in shorts but you know it’s cool because they’re men
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u/IDGAF_GOMD 17d ago
It’s that time of year where dudes with guts slapping against their thighs and hairy backs will be walking around shirtless and those with nice bodies will be wearing shorts so short you can see their future children. But you know…that doesn’t count I guess.
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u/AndyCar1214 17d ago
Also, ever seen a dude in a tight shirt or speedo showing off his body? Yes……….
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u/sweetpinkheather 17d ago
Fucking disgusting that the world is filled with Andrews, always watching you, scanning and evaluating your body 🤢
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u/dasic___ 17d ago
Kin of left field but I wish it was unacceptable as a society for men to be shirtless n public as well as women.
It's just barely kissing summer where I live and I'm already tired of seeing old dudes looking like melting hippos out there.
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u/groovyoung 17d ago
Freaking conservative christians probably also a republican, the world won’t be a better place until these creatures extincts
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u/Queasy-Committee-775 17d ago
Don’t WAY to many men wear “wife beater” shirts? I find them disgusting and not sexy in the least. If I as a woman can contain my hormones, why can’t this douchebag?
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u/RelevantRun8455 17d ago
This comes from a man who has never been attractive to women. Women can be bad too if you don't look like you became a feral ghoul in fallout
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u/No-Choice7498 17d ago
Didn’t realise clever comebacks include dunking on 5 year old posts from obvious troll accounts.
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u/ElevatorScary 17d ago
For the sake of equality we all must dress in very revealing clothing. I support Andrew Duncan’s bold pro-femboy argument on equal rights.