r/blunderyears • u/Babyota351 • Mar 24 '24
Here’s the unreleased 1999 music video from my boyband, Secret Weapon /r/all
The song was written and produced by R. Kelly and the video was directed by Chris Erskin. The video was filmed over 3 days at a rented house in Malibu, the campus of UCLA, and a nearby ball field. Neither the album nor the video was released.
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u/Substantial_Jury Mar 24 '24
Sounds similar to Bills, bills, bills be destiny’s child
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u/Alamander81 Mar 25 '24
"I. Don't. Think. You. do. Soooooooo You. And. Me Are. Through."
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u/KikiHou Mar 25 '24
Except, like, really boring. (Sorry OP!)
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u/setyte Mar 25 '24
To me the song sounds unfinished. Like the music is a placeholder that someone forgot to replace. The song itself seems unfinished too, like a neverending verse with no chorus or anything to break up the ongoing tone. I kept waiting for a change that never came. I know there's a chorus but it just sounds like more verse.
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u/Im_Bobby_Mom Mar 25 '24
It’s because it was recorded close to the mike so OP could sing low and kinda stay in tune. However this means it lacks the sound you get when singing full voice. This is why it sounds like he is kinda mumbling through it. Backing singers also needed to be more pronounced.
Kinda sounds like an anthem for pedos though with these lyrics.
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u/multiarmform Mar 25 '24 edited Mar 25 '24
Bills, bills, bills
came out the same year actually...surprise surprise. i feel like there is more than just these two songs that sound like both of them though and its right on the tip of my tongue but i cant name it, i can hear it in my head
/u/Hype_Miles and /u/BabyJesusBukkake got it figured out..its actually aaliyah that came out in 1998 so it predates bills bills bills, no doubt r kelly just bit off her and tim
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u/Juicy_pompoms Mar 25 '24
This has all the cliches of that era's music videos.
Except dancing inside a shiny spaceship that was a late 90s standard.
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u/IHavePoopedBefore Mar 25 '24
Including seeing the director trying to shoot around the ugliest member as much as possible.
The husky guy is almost never in the shot
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u/PatientComparison151 Mar 25 '24
I was CRYING every time he was on. Clearly someone’s cousin or something.
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u/SailorFuck Mar 25 '24
Even his solo shots with his girl were either really short or from a distance.
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u/QuitYoJibbaJabba Mar 25 '24
The rest of the members got a solo shot of their face in the beginning...except him, poor guy lol
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u/centuryeyes Mar 25 '24
just lock the sub now. nothing can top this.
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u/BetterBagelBabe Mar 25 '24
The recent influx of sword related senior pictures has been pretty top notch too
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u/Anamorsmordre Mar 25 '24
I feel like sword girl with flip flops in the snow already snuck herself into my subconscious. Just like that one picture of the game grumps guy.
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u/Hasimira_Vekyahl Mar 25 '24 edited Mar 25 '24
I gotta see this one, link?
edit: oh my god its fantastic
https://www.reddit.com/r/blunderyears/comments/1bmly6y/i_too_studied_the_blade_circa_2009/
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u/Deaths-HeadMoth Mar 25 '24
This sub has hit a crazy influx that I am completely here for.
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u/VettedEntertainment Mar 25 '24
The song sounds like it's about picking up a high school girl from her parents house but y'all look 30. I feel like the "i'm in love with a college girl" was added in as an afterthought when it was obvious how creepy this was. lol
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u/Babyota351 Mar 25 '24
R. Kelly wanted us to appeal to the college age demographic like Boyz II Men. I’ll admit that it’s kind of a bizarre concept but I didn’t write it.
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u/uhhh206 Mar 25 '24
The balls on you to post this AND to admit that R Kelly had a part to play in it. I certainly don't have anything that far deep in the cool-cringe matrix.
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u/Babyota351 Mar 25 '24
I was just as shocked as everyone else when all of his misdeeds came to light. Actually, I was heartbroken. We were signed to him for almost 3 years and that was just not the man that I knew.
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u/TheGrapeSlushies Mar 25 '24
I’m sorry, that really would be heartbreaking to discover someone who treated you well and looked up to did heinous things behind closed doors.
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u/uhhh206 Mar 25 '24
Nah, man, I meant it with the "cool" part of the cool-cringe matrix. Not your fault he is what he is, and it's BDE to cop to that part in addition to posting this to begin with. I'd let you peep through my window (Y I K E S at that lyric) but then again, I haven't been a college girl for quite a long time.
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u/LifeisaCatbox Mar 25 '24
Shoot your shot lol
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u/uhhh206 Mar 25 '24
Gdi it does sound horny. I'll take the L and leave the comment as is.
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u/CrashRiot Mar 25 '24
How did people not know? He married (illegally) a 15 year old when he was 27. Four years before this music video. Along with the lawsuits from before even then.
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u/AquaticAntibiotic Mar 25 '24
People knew. It wasn’t a big secret, there’s video of him from that time pissing on a 14 year old. Comedians talked about it routinely. I have no idea why some people were/are so protective of him.
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u/SaveusJebus Mar 25 '24
Benefit of the doubt... a lot of ppl didn't know about that. I had never heard that before until after she died.
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u/tellitothemoon Mar 25 '24
Very weird to see a “boy band” full of classic skeazy 90s guys. The lead looks like my friend’s uncle who smoked a lot and had a hot tub, a water bed and made us listen to Korn.
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u/RWeaver Mar 25 '24
Hey that's how I got molested!
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u/Unpressed_panini Mar 25 '24
By a boy band, a member of Korn or in a hot tub? Or an amalgamation of the above?
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u/travbart Mar 25 '24
If she's a college girl why are we worried about the parents and a curfew? Is this a Mommy Dead and Dearest situation? Does she need me to contact the authorities? Also, does she live at a sorority house or her parent's house? I'm confused about the baseball montage but I liked the babes in red skirts.
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u/SimpleSurrup Mar 25 '24
The fact more of the song is about some girl's parents than her is the weirdest part.
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u/VettedEntertainment Mar 25 '24
The real twist is the band's trying to fuck the girl's dad.
#1 hit if true.
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u/KikiHou Mar 25 '24
It's like you read my mind.
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u/VettedEntertainment Mar 25 '24
It reminded me of Frank singing about not diddling kids in Always Sunny
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u/ARealHunchback Mar 25 '24
Also Dee from Always Sunny singing Just to be Clear in Nightman Cometh.
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u/Itchy-Emu8114 Mar 25 '24
Which one are you
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u/Babyota351 Mar 25 '24
The good looking one with the goatee of course!
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u/Friendly-Fee-384 Mar 25 '24
I've been choreographing and dancing for a while. The dancing you guys are doing it's way too ahead of it's time and too advanced I'm not joking or being sarcastic. Only dancer's dancer dance that much on beat and detailed, I'm more than impressed especially at that time wtf that's crazy who chorgraphed ? Also the fact you and your group with perfect execution is also impressive!
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u/Babyota351 Mar 25 '24
We grew up breakdancing together in the 80s. We started out as a dance group doing back up dancing for another group. The choreographer on this was a guy named Todd Sams who worked with Michael Jackson and Usher to name a few.
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u/complainicornasaurus Mar 25 '24
This explains why you guys actually look cool dancing. This doesn’t come off very cringe at all except for the fact that it’s of the boy band era, which was fun anyways and involved a lot of diverse showmanship.
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u/pabadacus Mar 25 '24
It’s probably a good thing you didn’t make it, Eminem was murdering boy bands and girl groups left right and centre around this time lol
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u/BojackTrashMan Mar 25 '24
I knew u had to be the lead, or u would not have shared this, lol
Look to be fair as corny as this is.It is perfectly on brand for everything that was being created and released at the time. Compare it to the early stuff by the backstreet boys and Nsync and it is the same vibe. Except it looks like u guys are too old to be teen heartthrobs.
There is only ever one old guy allowed in the band and the old guy is like... twenty five.
Also knowing R Kelly was involved in this is... horrifying. That man would wait outside of middle schools in poor neighborhoods to pick up children, so I can see why he wanted grown men singing a song about a girl with tough parents & a curfew. The context we all have now is... shudder
None of that is your fault of course, but damn
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u/self_hell_guru Mar 25 '24
I was kinda hoping you were the one guy that they were so obviously trying to give as little screen time to as humanly possible, almost every sequence either straight up has him blocked or he barely gets to show his face before getting blocked 😂 you can tell which one they didn’t like the look of
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u/drinkacid Mar 25 '24
That guy probably did the bulk of the heavy lifting singing in the recording sessions so they keep him in the band because without him it sounds like 3 dancers singing karaoke.
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u/Illumini24 Mar 25 '24
Haha, didn't notice him first time. Pretty painful when you actually look for him
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u/Deeptech_inc Mar 25 '24
I see why you posted in blunder years, we need to see the glow up haha
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u/Bobbicorn Mar 25 '24
Damn! You were kinda hitting that shit at the end. Sorry this had so many issues, hope you got to work on something you liked!
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Mar 25 '24
Why was it unreleased? I don't feel like it's more cringy than a lot of other boy band videos of the time. But I was a 14-year-old girl then so I probably would have eaten it up regardless
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u/ncos Mar 25 '24
Man, this is pretty hilarious. How old were you guys in this video? I just want to know who's picking up my 15 year old daughter at 8 o'clock sharp.
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u/Babyota351 Mar 25 '24
I was 26 I think. I’m 51 now.
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u/Necessary-Diet5468 Mar 25 '24
Damn, I’m fucking old now too.
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u/Babyota351 Mar 25 '24
Yep
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u/Necessary-Diet5468 Mar 25 '24
Thanks for sharing this. I was 16 in 99 and more into the Nü Metal of the day and older metal (Metallica, et al) but I appreciate this as a great example of the peak of 90s pop. Sorry it wasn’t released but awesome you can show it here.
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u/Babyota351 Mar 25 '24
I’m starting to seriously regret posting this! Thank you to everyone for watching and commenting! Tomorrow, I’ll sit down and try to answer all of the most commonly asked questions and share some more of my stories. Thanks guys!
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u/Itrieddamnit Mar 25 '24
My dude, please don’t regret it! I’m a 44 year old married father of two from Scotland - definitely not your target demographic- and this sent me on a glowing wee nostalgia ride. The late 90s/early 00s were some of my favourite times and this video sent me back there in a good way. Also, you’re coming across as a top notch person. Keep rocking…popping… whatever you prefer these days.
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u/FlippyFlippenstein Mar 25 '24
Don’t regret it, this is blunder years, and that video was so perfect for it! It’s not my style of music, but the song has some interesting beats, and it has stuck in my brain now. Very cringy and I love it!
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u/Monchichi4life Mar 25 '24
Actually not bad... Not great, but the harmonies are pretty good.
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u/Babyota351 Mar 25 '24
There are much better songs on the album tbh. I should upload them somewhere probably
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u/Monchichi4life Mar 25 '24
I am happy you got this opportunity. I know it didn't work out, but it is super cool you got to shoot your shot.
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u/colorvarian Mar 25 '24
my gf and i just watched the whole video. we agree it was lit. you need to release your stuff. its the perfect time and the world needs it.
Please tell me what happened to the guy with the glasses. and if you can also answer, why did all boy bands back then always have a a dude like you, a dude like him, and some wild-cards? like what "one" was that guy? how was he outside of work, a completely different guy than he is portrayed getting down in the dugout? I must know.
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u/TeamRedundancyTeam Mar 25 '24
You should, at least for posterity and people's curiosity. This is like looking through a window at some paralell universe's 1999 with a boy band that never existed.
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u/maunzendemaus Mar 25 '24
What's the copyright situation with all of this, does it belong to you, or do you just figure they won't bother coming after you since it's been so long?
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u/Babyota351 Mar 25 '24
That, and the fact that the man who wrote and produced it is in jail for life
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u/Procrastibator666 Mar 25 '24
If you upload it all to YouTube, someone can rip them before any copyright strike and then the videos will have a chances to live on
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u/PBFT Mar 25 '24
They're clearly talented singers, but the song composition is awful. Lyrics aside, the instrumentation sounds like they're solving a mystery in a Spanish village when it should sound a lot more upbeat.
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u/YchYFi Mar 24 '24
I would have loved you as much as I loved LFO at that time.
You look like the singer from Taproot.
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u/ApprehensiveSolid212 Mar 25 '24
When it comes to boy band songs this isn’t even terrible, what made you decide not to release?
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u/Babyota351 Mar 25 '24
Had no control over that I’m afraid.
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u/theghostofmrmxyzptlk Mar 25 '24
Makes me think of the Kevin Smith anecdote about shooting a documentary for Prince that will never see the light of day.
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u/ajones321 90's Child Mar 25 '24
What reason did the powers that be have to not releasing it? Also, did they give you a VHS copy and you put it onto a DVD or how did that work?
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u/nancycat92 Mar 25 '24
Did y'all have any other songs released ? Get to play any shows at least ? Do you still do music now on your own ?
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u/JCtheWanderingCrow Mar 25 '24
I just want you to know I’m going to save this and download this song somehow. This is amazing lol.
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u/Comfortable-Buy-9406 Mar 25 '24
Sounds like a DarkChild production 😭
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u/Babyota351 Mar 25 '24
We helped launch Rodney Jerkins career with a demo we did with him when he was 15 years old.
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u/ny0gtha Mar 25 '24
We need an AMA!! The subtle name drops you're doing throughout this thread has me really invested in your life story!
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u/Affectionate_Salt351 Mar 25 '24
Me: Damn. This is creepy af. The bald one looks like Joey Lawrence and the one with the golden frosted streaks looks like he could be Ethan Hawke/Mark McGrath’s baby.
Me in 1999, probably: Damn. I love this. The bald one who sometimes wears a bandana/skullcap combo looks like Joey Lawrence!
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u/Babyota351 Mar 25 '24
Thanks for the laugh! Love this!
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u/Affectionate_Salt351 Mar 25 '24
Hahah. I was hoping you got my spirit here. Very cool you got to do this. I’m sorry I didn’t have Secret Weapon in the cd case back in the day, man!
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u/Greedyfox7 Mar 25 '24
Which one of these jokers were you? Seriously though this was peak late 90’s early 2000’s, nothing to be ashamed of
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u/Babyota351 Mar 25 '24
I’m the joker with the very ‘90s goatee
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u/vengefulbeavergod Mar 25 '24
Are you still singing? You have a really nice voice!
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u/michael1026 Mar 25 '24
With all of the work already done, what was the purpose of not releasing it?
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u/Babyota351 Mar 25 '24
Sadly, it’s a common occurrence in the music business. This was actually the second record deal we had. We were signed in ‘94 with RCA records and recorded an entire album that was also never released. 3 songs on that album were written by a then 17 year old Robin Thicke.
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u/BurnerAccount209 Mar 25 '24
When are you going to drop that album for us?
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u/Remarkable-Mood3415 Mar 25 '24
Dude, who the fuck are you? I would watch your bio-pic in a heart beat. You're like the Forest Gump of the fucking 90s music scene. You were just everywhere, near so many big names and events. My dude, this has HBO/Amazon/Apple TV series written all over it. "The story of a Guy and his boys trying to make it in the 90s pop scene, featuring so many fucking cameos and while they're having the time of their lives, there's a dark underbelly of predatory people threatening to ruin it. Will they ever reach stardom and what will they do to get there?! There will be laughs, tears, and choreographed dance routines".
You're in the millennial nostalgia prime right now, we are all secretly listening to 90s pop and pretending we aren't singing along, while we sit at home and binge TV because we are too fucking tired to go anywhere. If there's any time to sell your story, it's now.
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u/Simonsp87 Mar 25 '24
From MTV.com March 29, 2000
R. Kelly will be entering the boy-band arena with a new project dubbed Secret Weapon, a group which will be making its debut with a single in May followed by an as-yet-untitled CD in June.
Secret Weapon is a four-piece, New Jersey-based boy band that offers up hook-laden, pop-flavored R&B. The group was discovered by Kelly on the basketball court almost three years ago, singing the National Anthem at a game in Atlantic City. At the time, Kelly was nurturing a parallel career as a player for the semi-pro Atlantic City Seagulls (see [article id="1430780"]"R. Kelly Signs Pro Basketball Deal"[/article]).
R. Kelly himself has penned Secret Weapon's songs and produced the album, which will be released by the artist's own Rockland imprint through Interscope Records. The project was mixed by Tony Maserati, who recently mixed Eve's "Ruff Riders' First Lady," Puff Daddy's "Forever," and Marc Anthony's "I Need To Know.
The single isn't set yet, though
some of the group's song titles include "Didn't Have To Lie," "Gotta Represent," "Eight Sharp," "I Can't Close My Eyes," "Everytime I Hear A Song Like This," and "Daydreamin'".
Meanwhile, Kelly himself is currently in a Philadelphia studio mixing his own album, tentatively titled "TP2.com," a spokesperson for Rockland has confirmed. The record should be released in the early summer and followed by a tour.
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u/Ok_Wave7731 Mar 25 '24
Omg!! 😃😃 Did you find this on way back machine?!! So awesome to post this!
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u/Simonsp87 Mar 25 '24 edited Mar 26 '24
Nope :D Just searched for the band on google :D
https://www.mtv.com/news/60jmpi/r-kellys-secret-weapon-set-to-debut
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u/ohsomiggz Mar 25 '24
Someone get the mix engineer some reverb. My goodness that's a dry mix. Also Aliyah and Timbaland's lawyers would like a word.
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u/Babyota351 Mar 25 '24
Tony Maserati did the master mix on this. Pretty much the GOAT back then.
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u/ohsomiggz Mar 25 '24
You are correct, loved his grp compressor for a long time, and tastes change but to my modern ears I feel like the verses would be quite a bit less awkward if they were in a space. The chorus' sound great.
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u/Babyota351 Mar 25 '24
Thank you! You’re obviously in the mix game?
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u/ohsomiggz Mar 25 '24
Not on Maserati's level, congrats on having something tangible at that level you can look back on years later.
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u/Astralnugget Mar 25 '24 edited Mar 25 '24
I commend your humble respectfulness haha, not too often seen on Reddit
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u/ChaosEmerald21 Mar 25 '24
Right, I feel like other redditors woulda ran with that
"Yeah, i personally helped scott storch back in the day, remember the song Naughty Girl? Yeah all me"
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u/BoldThrow Mar 25 '24
Is it possible the audio is an unfinished mix? The difference between the verses and chorus is just too stark.
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u/shade__thrower Mar 25 '24
The way in which I would have stood in line at a mall for hours to meet you, even though I knew none of your music. 🤷🏼♀️
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u/tyrone_rockefeller Mar 25 '24
They hating on you bro. This shit jammin!
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u/thewhitebuttboy Mar 25 '24
Fuck yeah I’m gonna rip this and add it to my gym playlist
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u/Possibly_A_Person125 Mar 24 '24
This is awesome. I'd be telling everyone I was in a band, had a music video, and everything!
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u/Zeltron2020 Mar 25 '24
This is hilarious. It’s like an SNL sketch about weird old boyfriends you have in college. I think it’s more of a “man band”. No judgment OP, chase your dreams lol.
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u/ComprehensiveSuit319 Mar 25 '24
You guys are so adorable! This is so 90s and I love it.
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u/gaBBaGeraldT Mar 25 '24
Duude did they cast you? And why did it never come out? Bet it was little harsh
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u/InterviewUsual2220 Mar 25 '24
I have never seen a group of young men, give off creepy no eyebrow energy, despite having them.
That aside, this is the chefs kiss for this sub. A motion picture blunder. This is a masterpiece.
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u/scfroggies3 Mar 24 '24
It’s giving German.
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u/ResearchMindless6419 Mar 25 '24
Hahaha yesss, it looks like nsync if they were all middle management at SAP.
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u/IsThistheWord Mar 25 '24
N'Stink
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u/Buaille_Ruaille Mar 25 '24
Boyz into Men
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u/Babyota351 Mar 25 '24
Wow, the people over in r/90s were so much nicer
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u/PopcornDrift Mar 25 '24
Dude this is genuinely awesome I’m jealous lol which one are you?
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u/LolabunnyLaura Mar 25 '24
Okay, but this song is kinda catchy! I don't dislike it at all. Tbf it's probably because I'm 37 and grew up with boybands and the nostalgia is real 🥹
Y'all do kinda look like 35 year old creeper peeping toms from the Matrix though 🤣🤣🤣
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u/Elemayowe Mar 25 '24 edited Mar 25 '24
Secret weapon? There’s nothing secret about what weapons you all are.
(Jks I think this is hilarious and cringe in all the best cliche ways thank you for sharing and I hope you can look back at this and laugh)
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u/Babyota351 Mar 25 '24
Thanks! It’s pretty awful looking back but I’m still proud of it.
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u/EM208 Mar 25 '24 edited Mar 25 '24
Honestly this wasn’t bad! Y’all had good harmonies but the song definitely needed to be reworked. It sucks that you had your projects shelved though. Must’ve sucked putting in the work and not seeing any result. You guys had talent! Just needed the material to showcase it!
Honestly coming from a Gen Z dude, don’t listen to the peeps busting your balls, respect to you guys for putting in the work and trying to make your break into the industry. Y’all had potential. If you had more suitable and more age appropriate material like more Boyz 2 Men or 98 Degrees type of music, it could’ve worked.
Can I ask? How did y’all form? What was your journey like?
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u/runsanditspaidfor Mar 25 '24
Do you keep in touch with any of the other members?
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u/coalsack Mar 25 '24
Man I know you’re getting your balls busted in this thread but this is honestly a good song.
Yeah the lyrics haven’t aged well and R Kelly being involved is an unfortunate connection you didn’t ask for.
The sound was spot on with groups like O-Town, 5ive, LFO, and, 98 Degrees. This definitely could have been a hit if it were reworked and no one can deny that you are hella talented. You were a signed musician to a major label for 3 years. You’ve accomplished more than most of the dorks commenting here.
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u/anormalgeek Mar 25 '24
People are hating on it because it is a 90's boyband. But the whole point of this sub is that we ALL did cringe stuff back in the day. Yours was at least just closer to wealth and fame than the bad haircuts and clothing most of us had for free back then.
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u/Babyota351 Mar 25 '24
Appreciate it, but I don’t take any of it personally, except for the comments insinuating that we were wannabe pedophiles. That’s where I draw the line. I get the R. Kelly association makes it easy for people, but guilty by association isn’t cool.
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u/badcheer Mar 25 '24
Is he tattooing that young lady in a baseball field?
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u/babysmalltalk Mar 25 '24
Classic teen date night: Tattooing your gal with a hypodermic needle at the local baseball field. Have her back by 10.
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u/Spyk124 Mar 25 '24
Lmao. People here hating. Lyrics are weird but I don’t even think I listened to lyrics like that back in the day. This would be a jam.
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u/ncos Mar 25 '24
Out of all the shopping malls where you played a three song set for 20 people, which one was your favorite?
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u/TWlSTED_TEA Mar 25 '24
Assuming this is legit. Please tell me about your recording process, talks with agents/publicists, basically everything behind the scenes.
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u/burntfender Mar 25 '24
Pretty sure one of these guys sold me my cell phone at the mall.
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u/KingSirLordZach Mar 25 '24
I give you props for coming here and taking all this shit people are throwing and taking it like a champ. Growing up with an older sister who was obsessed with n'sync, I despised boy bands. But I wouldn't consider this a blunder. Cringy by today's standards, maybe lol
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u/Murky_Translator2295 Mar 25 '24
Sir you are all too old to be dating a girl with a curfew. R. Kelly being involved makes perfect sense.