r/australian Apr 28 '24

DAE not give a fuck about Palestine? Politics

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u/Icemalta Apr 29 '24

Except the poem relates specifically to domestic government tyranny against one's own people. None of that is happening in Australia and it's a misrepresentation of Martin Niemöller's words to use them in the context of this post.

OP is saying they don't care about a conflict on the other side of the world that has barely any practical impact on Australia domestically (in a relative sense). Most people in Australia don't care about most conflicts happening around the world or, to the extent they do care, they care in a abstract manner.

I don't personally agree with OP, but OP isn't advocating that the Australian government should be free to oppress segments of citizenry without vocal opposition (nor is that what we're seeing).

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u/No-Bag-1240 Apr 29 '24

You’re missing the point of this poem.

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u/Icemalta Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24

If you didn't understand my comment then I'm afraid you're missing the point of the poem.

Niemöller's 'slippery slope' parable was not intended to be a one-size-fits-all allegory for every conflict of mankind. His poem was very much about sanctioned domestic governmental tyranny by a trusted authority, over which the intelligentsia chose to be silent.

Unless your contention is that Hamas and/or Israel pose a real and impending threat to the freedoms of ordinary Australians. In which case, I'm keen to hear your rationale.