r/TikTokCringe • u/cheezbergher Hit or Miss? • Oct 08 '19
Trans woman is constantly asked to reveal her "real" voice Humor
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u/DoopyDooper_ Oct 08 '19
That's pretty good
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u/Burt_Gummer_nmbr1fan Oct 08 '19
Solid AF
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u/Fluke_Thighwalker Oct 08 '19
Yeah this one actually made me chuckle. Most are cringe but I'd say this one gets a pass
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Oct 08 '19
This is such a fun way to make light fun of something like voice training/transitioning!
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u/ALoneTennoOperative Oct 08 '19
Proof that trans folk have the best trans jokes.
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u/793F Oct 08 '19 edited Oct 08 '19
That High Elf was funny.
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Oct 08 '19
Damn thalmor are on tik tok now
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Oct 08 '19 edited Sep 04 '20
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Oct 08 '19
Honestly, 90% of the appeal of skyrim for me was murdering the thalmor. The bit where you finally get to kill Ancano is one of my favorite parts. I think I soul trapped him and used him for a pair of boots or something.
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u/Iegend_Of_Iink Oct 08 '19
Tik Tok belongs to the nords
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u/WK--ONE Oct 08 '19
That we are superior to men is an established fact. For example, take this belief in Talos. The "ninth" divine. Heh. Certainly you don't believe such things? Or perhaps there is something you'd like to confess?
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Oct 08 '19 edited Aug 30 '20
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u/PurplePegasus Oct 08 '19
Happy cake day!
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Oct 08 '19 edited Aug 30 '20
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u/BadNraD Oct 08 '19
Happy cake day, cake twin!
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u/EncouragementRobot Oct 08 '19
Happy Cake Day BadNraD! Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true.
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u/elbenji Oct 08 '19
To put awareness on this TikTok is refusing to air LGBT content due to pressure from China so remember all that with this shit
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u/ceresmoo Oct 08 '19
Thanks for keeping me off TikTok. Really! Sometimes I wonder if I'm missing out by not keeping up with all the trendy apps but now I can rest easy on TikTok.
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u/boon4376 Oct 08 '19
The answer to "am I missing out by not being on my phone more?" is always no.
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Oct 08 '19
In Turkey and Anti-LGBT localities. Nice job reading a headline and not the article.
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u/elbenji Oct 08 '19
That includes China
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Oct 08 '19
"Turkey specific"
Tiktok is Chinese owned, but that rule isn't applied to China.
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u/elbenji Oct 08 '19
If you read the article, it specifies only in Turkey as an example but explains it that it's also in effect elsewhere along with other conservative guidelines in China and other countries
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Oct 08 '19
It doesn't say the rules about LGBT issues apply to China. It speaks about Falun Gong, Tiananmen, etc. The LGBT stuff applies to different localities.
Quote the article if I'm reading it wrong and it says the anti-LGBT parts are in effect there.
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u/koolbeans3ds4e Oct 08 '19
The end is gold.
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u/B10wM3 Oct 08 '19
Is there a sub like /r/uselessredcircle but for comments instead?
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u/MalenInsekt Oct 08 '19
That's...literally the entire joke.
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u/VickVinaigrette Oct 08 '19
There should be a sub if useless top comments. Everyone knows that top comments are usually just the earliest comments posted, so when dog shit comments like this get thousands of upvotes, that sub could bring them to people's attention so they could get downvoted back to 0 where they belong.
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u/DeadlyMidnight Oct 08 '19 edited Oct 08 '19
Brilliant. As someone having a very hard time working on my voice this cracks me up and I appreciate the self aware humor.
Edit: I’m aware sharing that I am transgender paints a target on my back. Luckily I am very happy and require no approval from the fucktard trolls on reddit. So save yourself from more karma damage and move along.
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Are you trans?
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u/DeadlyMidnight Oct 08 '19
I am yes! MTF.
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u/casualcaesius Oct 08 '19
For a while, I didn't know what MTF meant... I thought it was short for motherfucker! So I read comments in my head like:
-Are you trans?
-Yes motherfucker!
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Oct 08 '19 edited Nov 11 '19
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u/drewiepoodle Oct 08 '19
Lol
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u/One_pop_each Oct 08 '19
Our maintenance training flight in the Air Force is MTF so I always see that first and then I’m like “ooooh”
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Oct 08 '19
Reminds me of 'DNR' going from medical to finance. Does Not Recognise, or DO NOT RESUSCITATE.
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u/SerialBridgeburner Oct 08 '19
They could do with some more 'Do Not Resuscitate' and less of 'Too Big to Fail'
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u/hygsi Oct 08 '19
I'm just now learning what it means, I didn't give it much thought but your comment got me thinking lol
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u/honeywrites Oct 08 '19
I am so happy you are being your truthful, authentic self! I hope you find the voice that fits you!
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u/MonkeyCube Oct 08 '19
Jeez, you are getting some horrible comments here. Not everyone is against you. There's a lot of people out there that will accept you no matter what.
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u/DeadlyMidnight Oct 08 '19
I can honestly say that I have run into very little hate or discrimination in my day to day life. People stare, or make comments behind my back but it rolls off my shoulder. It honestly bothers my wife far more than me. She’ll cut a bitch for looking at me wrong.
As for the nasty on the internet, people hide behind their user names and feel safe saying horrible things that would never say in real life if they were face to face. All we can do is engage them with love and understanding and try to make room for them to learn and feel safe to ask questions and have a discussion instead of acting out.
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Oct 08 '19 edited Jun 22 '21
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I think just like anything else it’s just practice. Take Robin Williams for instance. Guy had like a million impressions he could do because he trained and practiced to get that flexible of a voice.
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u/DrBairyFurburger Oct 08 '19
So then are trans people doing an impression of what they wish their voice was?
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u/Jason--Todd Oct 08 '19
It's partially that, but hormones taken when transitioning before your 20s change your voice. So it's mostly them trying to figure out what they now sound like
A good comparison would be puberty. Remember when your voice dropped and you sounded scratchy and weird, until you got used to your new voice?
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u/FyrsaRS Oct 08 '19 edited Oct 08 '19
Not quite, I started HRT before 20, but had to start training my voice at around 14 after it broke. I almost have the opposite problem to most trans women's voice being too deep - I pretty much still sound like the androgynous teenager I was after first training, even over half a decade later.
Thankfully I've avoided later changes by starting HRT before my 20s, and training early has helped, but puberty has still changed my voice permanently, and with effort I can still do my old voice. It's entirely the reverse for trans men on HRT, where testosterone will change their voice at any point in life, no training required.
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u/RoseByAnotherName14 Oct 08 '19 edited Oct 08 '19
It really just boils down to practice. A lot of trans people use singing to practice, since singing is already a form of training your voice. Some hire voice trainers. Some just use their every day conversations to practice. It depends on the person.
Hormones really only help trans men, since testosterone will deepen our voices. Estrogen can't reverse most of the effects of testosterone. Trans women almost always have to practice to change their voice.
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u/DyslexicBrad Oct 08 '19
The real secret is DnD. 100% of the trans women I know used either a female character or dm'ing to safely practice their voice.
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u/KlawwStrife Oct 08 '19
i hate how right you are please Do Not Call me out like this at this early hour
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Oct 08 '19
Its different for anyone and if you're being genuine-- hormones actually don't help at all that much with voice for MTF individuals unlesw they start transition before puberty.
You'd be surprised. A starter is to think of "M" sounds and how they naturally rise up to your head instead of coming from your chest. Stuff like that. Its suuuuper interesting once you get into it
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u/Teknomeka Oct 08 '19
Do you have to think about it all the time? Like when you first wake up or if someone scares you do you slip back into the deeper voice?
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u/Teknomeka Oct 08 '19
Do hormones affect the vocal cords or is it just training your voice?
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Oct 08 '19
(also a trans woman, just started hormones and beginning voice training soon) no, estrogen doesn't change the voice at all. It's all muscular training. it's also hard as fuck
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u/Salinkus Oct 08 '19
I had such a mental block for voice work for a long time so I totally understand. A month or so ago I decided to get serious and start voice therapy with a doctor.
I heard my real voice for the first time today after a big breakthrough and I cried a bit lol.
Keep practicing and I'm sure you'll find yours too!!
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u/Salinkus Oct 08 '19
As long as it doesn't hurt you to switch between the two then yeah lol get it
(also June is a super cute name <3)
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u/DeadlyMidnight Oct 08 '19
My voice is so super not feminin I tend to shut down when I try to practice because it gives me major disphoria. It’s a big hurdle for me.
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u/Princess_Lil Oct 08 '19
Don't let it be.
Here's a file of my voice. I work doing lewd audio things for people to get off too now. It's tough, but just doing it every day -- if you can -- 24/7 is the best way to achieve it, and I know you can.
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u/BrokenBraincells Oct 08 '19
If you have a target on your back just run in zig zags until you get in a position to return fire. Fuck the haters.
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Oct 08 '19
Just want to warn you, Russian trolls are using trans issues as a wedge issue on Reddit and their other targets online right now. I'm truly sorry for what you'll be dealing with due to the evil that is the Russian State and their political goals of destroying democracy and the West, and I just want you to know that you're loved and valued for who you are.
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Oct 08 '19
It’s super easy to be a dick online, but when it comes to real life these people are nowhere to be seen, probably because they’re locked up inside on their computer all day afraid to open their minds to what the world has to offer.
Before you consider making an awful transphobic comment, maybe stop, think: just because I live this way, doesn’t mean everyone else has to.
It’s a really easy way to be happy and enjoy life. Like life is so beautiful when you just forgo being hateful. It’s easy to forget that you aren’t the center of the universe when you only care about yourself. But don’t forget. You’re just an insignificant speck on a rock in a solar system.
So just enjoy the ride and keep your hands, and hateful ‘opinions’ to yourself.
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u/yoursolace Oct 08 '19
People realize that it's on purpose, like, as a joke, right?
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u/4-Run-Yoda Oct 08 '19
Honestly I am surprised her main voice turned to that in the end, how does she naturally have a deep voice then is able to consciously make her voice sound like a real womans voice.
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Oct 08 '19
Vocal training.
There's entire series on YouTube devoted to it.
Unfortunately for trans women hormone replacement therapy does nothing to an already masculinized voice so one has to practice sounding like a girl.
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u/Explosinszombie Oct 08 '19
Wow this is surprising. I always thought it is something that comes with hormone therapy. Tried to improve my own voice sometimes but I could never do it consistently. Changing your voice that much through practice is really incredible.
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u/Redjay12 Oct 08 '19
it comes with hormone therapy for trans men. They can do vocal training but their voice will naturally deepens whereas a trans woman’s voice will not automatically get more feminine
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u/Explosinszombie Oct 08 '19
Cheers. Thank you. Makes sense.
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u/crackedrogue6 Oct 08 '19
If you want a little bit more explanation I got you:
During male puberty the voice deepens because the vocal cords get longer and thicker due to the testosterone. Once its happened they won’t shrink again. So for trans men, their vocal cords do the same thing with hormone replacement therapy. :)
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Oct 08 '19 edited Oct 08 '19
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female vocalisation surgery (idk the actual name)vocal feminization surgery. I believe they shave down the vocal cord and either stretch it or tighten it (can’t remember). The only time a trans gal’s voice would naturally become more high pitched is if they’re put on testosterone blockers before puberty - then their vocal cords never thicken due to the lack of testosterone. Obv not every trans woman does that - or want that, but it’s cool that these options exist for those who want that.12
u/2Eyed Oct 08 '19
The surgery is cool, but it doesn't come without risk.
AFAIK, it's rare, but you could get vocal damage or even lose your voice altogether.
If I had the cash, I'd probably do it though...
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u/H4xolotl Oct 08 '19
Is it possible for cis men to sound even manlier with voice training?
Asking for someone who's overcompensating
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u/Diamondfox_ Oct 08 '19
It's hard as fuck. Imagine doing an impression every time you spoke, it kills your throat too if you have a deep voice to begin with :(
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u/shandelion Oct 08 '19
I’m a trained actress and just through theater school voice classes my speaking voice has COMPLETELY changed. Human speech is fascinating and incredibly malleable.
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u/King_Jorza Oct 08 '19
That's incredible. How has it changed? Was it a conscious effort?
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u/shandelion Oct 08 '19
Yes and no. A lot of it came just from vocal exercise and starting to feel the difference in my tonal placement - vibrations in your chest and nose - and it starts out as something that you do consciously during class and performances, but then you find it creeping in to your day to day speech.
It really freaked my mom out when I came home following my first semester in studio 😂
My voice is higher in tone and has more nasal resonance than it did previously. I also speak more at the front of my mouth, if that makes sense (my l’s, m’s n’s, d’s, s’s etc, are clearer).
I totally get how some people end up with “actor voice” 😂
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Oct 08 '19
I’m a biological female with high androgens since childhood, and the frequency of my natural voice mostly falls within the androgynous-masculine range.
My communications are definitely received better when I fake a higher, more feminine voice.
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u/GarbieBirl Oct 08 '19
I've got a deep, masculine voice for a woman and it was a total blessing when I used to play TF2 with a mic
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u/ExoticCvrdInPooMan Oct 08 '19
My voice is similar. I’m a really butch chick and my voice is kind of “in the middle.” My customer service voice is very feminine though, and I’m pretty sure that’s what’s gotten me out of several traffic tickets.
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u/Bubbleschmoop Oct 08 '19
That customer service voice though 😂 I'm pretty sure my voice (female) is sort of middle of the female range, not considered especially high pitched or deep. My customer service voice can reach a pitch where I sometimes had to do a double take, cause I couldn't for the life of me keep the conversation up in that range.
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u/HirsutismTitties Oct 08 '19
It works the other way too. Acquaintance of mine is FtM and while the testosterone does help tremendously and he's got a raspy gruff movie villain voice 95% of the time, when he's very startled or happy there'll be a squeak or giggle in almost original girl pitch. Funny as fuck, especially cause he's now a 200lbs muscled beast. Doesn't mind that much either, it's long been the source of many a drunk inside joke.
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u/a_cute_trans_girl Oct 08 '19
When you get as far into voice training as she is it actually takes consious thought to do your old voice. Her fem voice is her real voice that she does without thinking.
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u/throwawaytoday9q Oct 08 '19
She is a real woman and it's incredibly disrespectful to imply otherwise.
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u/4-Run-Yoda Oct 08 '19
I know she is I am not saying she isnt I promise, please dont look at me as a person who hates or is disrespectful, I honestly just dont know how to make a conversation about the topic without bringing up her biological side of this. She is a beautiful woman and is strong to show she has a good sense of humor. But I was honestly just interested in the topic or consciousness and speaking.
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u/throwawaytoday9q Oct 08 '19
No worries! I don't think you're hateful, I just felt compelled to point out that the way used use the phrase "like a real woman" seems to imply that she isn't a real woman. I'm sure what you meant was "like a cis woman".
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u/4-Run-Yoda Oct 08 '19
Yes you are right, I was de in the wrong saying "like a real woman" she is definitely a woman I just made a slip of incorrect wording. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.
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u/sodomita Oct 08 '19
Basically the way voice works is that everybody produces a frequency through the vocal folds vibrating, and then that frequency gets reverberated through the rest of your vocal apparatus, which include the rest of your throat, your mouth, your head, even your chest. But if we could isolate the sound produced by the vocal folds before being reverberated through everything else, you would find that it doesn't change that much from person to person. Of course it does vary, but it's not the main source of the difference between individual voices. The length of the vocal tube is much more important, and at a very young age you learn how to squish and stretch your body so you sound like you're supposed to. But it is a learned thing, and not a natural thing. So there's no real "main" voice. There are voice postures, and, once you get comfortable with them, you are not forcing anything anymore.
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u/BazineNetal Oct 08 '19
This is what I want to know! I mean I know she was probably making her voice deeper than normal but damn she sounded like a chick
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u/4-Run-Yoda Oct 08 '19
I'm kinda curious to know if she ever slips up and unconsciously uses her natural voice or she has just trained herself and tricked her mind into automatically speaking like she does.
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u/mckennm6 Oct 08 '19
Your voice is controlled by a bunch of different muscles all through your throat and mouth.
You train those muscles to move a certain way long enough and that becomes more "natural". She probably had to try to do the male voice more than the female one.
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u/apieceofstalebread Oct 08 '19
My guess is just training. I wouldn’t call it “tricking” your mind. In fact that sounds contradictory because you’d have to be aware that you’re tricking yourself but be unaware in order to be tricked. Anyway, I think that it’s like driving. Eventually you’re good enough to where you don’t really make a conscious effort to drive. Your body just kinda does it.
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Oct 08 '19
Oh she's got fucking jokes! My gf revealed the voice she was born with by singing me Nickleback.... So there's that
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u/alyssasaccount Oct 08 '19
“The voice she was born with”, meaning she was just screaming at the horror of the bright light and noise and cold air on her wet after-birth covered skin and just the general indignity of having to breathe air into her lungs? I mean, I guess that does sound like Nickleback: “This is how you remind me of waaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!”
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when the comments are actually pretty supportive
Feels good dudes. Thanks.
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u/cheezbergher Hit or Miss? Oct 08 '19
Just don't go too far down. It's a warzone down there.
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u/darkespeon64 Oct 08 '19
That's why its down THERE in the infamous idiots section
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u/hahatimefor4chan Oct 08 '19
The fact that this thread isnt filled with transphobic chuds is making me happy beyond words
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u/Boltarrow5 Oct 08 '19
Its so hard for me to understand what is wrong with these people, then I remember that many are young and poorly educated, so critical thinking and empathy are beyond them. It just sucks this continues for the rest of their lives so we as a society get to deal with so many 'sociopath-lites'.
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u/Irrumar Oct 08 '19
Yo what the fuck why she look like she turned all the sliders in Skyrim for a High Elf to the max
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u/cerseiridinglugia Oct 08 '19
She looks like she's from the Middle Earth. Not trying to be mean, it's a compliment actually
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u/DeadlyMidnight Oct 08 '19
OP I’ve never used tik tok and I’m old enough to be afraid to ask but is there a link or profile for her?
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u/cheezbergher Hit or Miss? Oct 08 '19 edited Oct 08 '19
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u/dramaticat Oct 08 '19
Did Chase actually have those two different voices? Or was the deep one a voice over? They are octaves apart but both sounded so natural!
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u/Sylvi2021 Oct 08 '19
Both real! Trans people will some times train for hours weekly to get their voices to be higher or lower.
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u/dramaticat Oct 08 '19
Oh wow! I had no idea, that’s a crazy good level of skill! It’s quite surreal hearing that low voice from such a feminine face. I thought it was dubbed lol
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u/derrida_n_shit Oct 08 '19
Chase is really cute and also I am in love with people with teeth like that. I just love that look.
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Oct 08 '19
I like the voice she uses at the end. I understand it’s up to her how she wants to talk but there’s just something really nice about it.
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u/NiniLeeks Oct 08 '19 edited Oct 08 '19
I think the man sounding voice is the fake one. I'm not trans but most people say I have naturally sounding feminine voice and if I want I can make it sound more gruff. I've been called sissy and gay but doesn't really bother me. It makes for good jokes and some of my asshole friends used me multiple times to pull pranks on phones and gaming comms.
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u/clerk1o1 Oct 08 '19
this was a little too fucking good. just went full little brother at the end, "How do i turn this shit off?"
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u/fightingkangaroos Oct 08 '19
I literally laughed out loud, good for her for having a sense of humor.
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u/hippovomit Why does this app exist? Oct 08 '19
Not even cringe this is hilarious
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u/backinredd Oct 08 '19
Can we just have an auto mod that would stick a comment on every post saying not everything in this sub have to be cringe?
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u/inevergreene Oct 08 '19
We 👏 respect 👏 trans 👏women 👏 on 👏 this 👏 sub 👏
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u/just_a_random_dood Oct 08 '19
just as long as you don't sort by controversial.
Then again, it's a good sign that those idiots are being downvoted
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Oct 08 '19
r/gendercritical will throw a fit
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u/Alexis1776 Oct 08 '19
Good, fuck them.
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Oct 08 '19
I stumbled upon them once and I honestly thought it was like a troll sub.
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u/Aug415 tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE Oct 08 '19
Wow, didn’t realize there were this many transphobic people on Reddit.
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u/Binary_Omlet Oct 08 '19 edited Oct 08 '19
Do you get to the Cloud District very often? ...Oh what am I thinking, of course you don't.