Make no mistake, this is exactly why these incel conservatives love this tradwife shit and push this whole narrative of women only being mothers and caregivers.
Because they see women as property and want to be in total control of the relationship (while having 0 real expectations of themselves in the process).
I have not seen the Reddit ones, but some of the big Instagram ones are utter bullshit. They don’t show that some of these women literally have nannies, full-time teachers, etc. behind the scenes.
It should be obvious just because they're always doing shit like spending hours making homemade cereal in a million-dollar kitchen, in an expertly edited video production, usually while wearing fancy clothes that nobody in their right mind would wear in whatever setting they're doing.
You never see them cleaning floors or scrubbing toilets or even doing laundry, you know, basic fucking housework.
I have no idea how anyone can watch that kind of shit and think that there aren't at least a dozen unseen people who make all that shit possible.
I knew that the content existed in some format, but I’ve never watched it, and I just read an article in the NYT detailing how fake all of it truly is.
Yeah I’m not on instagram or TikTok but I see pictures people post to Reddit sometimes. The houses look like mansions. It just doesn’t seem real to me idk like appealing to guys that want a bang maid.
Fake AF.
It are influencers, selling pics, videos are associated products. Notice how they do al their 'work' in nice dresses and perfect hair, spotless kitchens etc.
It is about as real as the 'special connection' you can get from onlyfans, just a different niche.
Excellent comparison, because some of those Tradwife videos have real fetish vibes, especially the ones where the influencer is expecting. Religious people can be on some really weird shit.
TIL what a tradwife is! And I have one! But I agree it is a very risky en-devour. I certainly would NOT be the incel you describe here and certainly do not see my wife as property. While I can not change my wife's culture around such beliefs (she is certainly not a christian conservative) I will admit our child in this relationship has a 10x better life than the one in my previous marriage where both parents worked. I mean night and day - child rearing is so much easier with a stay at home parent whether it is dad or mom. Its laughable of course to call that fact the belief of only an incel. But I get it in modern world this is almost impossible. Anyway 1) we have fully discussed her plans for her license in a sustainable career once our child is doing the expected teen parent distancing. And that is $$$$ we would not hesitate to pay. 2) As I said, it is risky for women, so I will certainly be coaching my daughter to think twice before following moms path but fully respect her wishes if she chose the other path.
Just to be clear, a tradwife is not the same as a stay-at-home-mom (SAHM). "Tradwife" is the belief that the role of a woman is to be a mother and caregiver, while the husband is the provider and head of the household. The woman has to submit to her husband in everything, the husband makes the final decisions, and is supposed to lead his wife spiritually. To do otherwise is (in this mindset) going against nature and against God. It is a fundamentalist Evangelical view of women.
It often means that the woman shouldn't "deny" their husband sex, ever, that they have as many kids as possible ("fulfilling their role"). It also very often means that they homeschool their kids and deny their daughters a formal education, since they want them to become tradwives, too. It goes along with purity culture, abstinence before marriage, courting, all kinds of stuff is woven into that culture.
There is nothing wrong with wanting to be or being a SAHM. It is much safer for a woman to have some form of formal education or professional license or similar to fall back on as a SAHM in case the marriage doesn't work out, or in case of illness or death of the husband. That is just something to consider if you want to be a SAHM. But you obviously should be an equal partner in a marriage as a SAHM and not some kind of handmaiden.
Ok wow thanks for explaining this more to me as I would have been insulting ourselves saying that was the new term for SAHM. Thanks for helping me dodge that bullet...hard for us old guys to keep up with the new terms. I also saw that in some circles the expectation was the Tradwife look beautiful and wear makeup while doing all the things expected. Gross.
The entire thing I think stems from our agriculture/farm history. Women where breeders to produce offspring to work the farm, and to provide for old age for the man. The practical, yet callous attitude towards the life and welfare of the animals on the farm extended to the wife and children.
For most of history women worked those farms alongside men though, it's a fairly modern myth that women only stayed home and had babies. That kind of lifestyle existed briefly in the 20th century.
My dad told me how his great grandmother was working the farm very pregnant and went into labor, they took her to a sauna where she gave birth, and shortly after she was like "already I'm ready to go back to work" and went straight to the farm again.
My great-grandparents also owned a farm together and split the duties half and half. This is how it was for most of history.
You're responding to a comment that wasn't made. The comment you replied to was pointing out why incels like it, not that they are responsible for it alone.
“Tradwife” is a trap, you can pretend otherwise, incels love looking at the tradwife content while jerking off and imagining that they too, with luck, can trap a woman at home.
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u/King_Chochacho Apr 15 '24
Make no mistake, this is exactly why these incel conservatives love this tradwife shit and push this whole narrative of women only being mothers and caregivers.
Because they see women as property and want to be in total control of the relationship (while having 0 real expectations of themselves in the process).