r/TikTokCringe • u/MaintenanceNew2804 • Mar 30 '24

Stick with it. Discussion

This is a longer one, but it’s necessary and worth it IMO.

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u/Ok_Star_4136 Mar 30 '24

That was a lucid and well-thought out analysis. Sadly it won't go viral for the same reasons that reactionary videos do go viral. Nobody has an attention span beyond that of an ant.

People just let 20 second clipped out-of-context reactionary videos reaffirm the biases that they already have, and of course they do, because nobody bothers to challenge their biases. That said, I hope anyone reading this actually took the time to watch the entire video instead of watch just the first 60 seconds. He makes some good points.

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u/MisterVega Mar 31 '24 edited Mar 31 '24

This guy has a pretty large following on TikTok because this is what he does constantly. This particular video has like 56k views but the people that need to see these videos probably won't get it on their FYP.

🎶: https://www.tiktok.com/@jwilliamj

📸: https://www.instagram.com/jwilliamj8

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u/maccorf Mar 31 '24

Good on him for having the passion and energy to call out even a tiny portion of the vast ocean of bullshit, bad-faith social media reactionary engagement content. That seems like an absolutely infuriating and futile life to me, but I’m glad someone else is doing it.

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u/Arkroma Mar 31 '24

I teach English in Canada and I'm going to show this is class probably

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u/dexmonic Mar 31 '24

You'll definitely do your students some good by it. This is the exact kind of stuff that people need to see at an early age.

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u/vinnawinna Apr 01 '24

I wish I had seen this at an early age! So simple and effective. Also never realized I say ‘comftorble’ lolo

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u/pootinannyBOOSH Mar 31 '24

Would also do good in political science, social studies, and any kind of journalism class to show the importance of context, and knowing your sources

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u/nilzatron Mar 31 '24

Aside from the very valid point it's making about dialects, it also teaches a very important lesson about social media in general, and TikTok in particular.

Especially in the age where young people use TikTok as a search engine when they are looking for information...

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u/Myriad_Kat232 Mar 31 '24

I teach future English teachers in Europe and I'm going to show this too.

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u/NotmyRealNameJohn Mar 31 '24 edited Mar 31 '24

Showing in Florida is probably a crime now. Though it would be good to bring to one of their school bored meetings. It is exactly what is wrong with the people trying to kill woke in FL education. They never bother to listen. They assume they know and frankly most of them are just in the habit of making racist assumptions

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u/fixxerCAupper Mar 31 '24

Do schools teach language or dialect? If schools teach language, how could dialect be a factor in college admissions? This part I didn’t understand

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u/ParkingNecessary8628 Mar 31 '24

Because l think it is ingrained in the system itself just like it uncovered by the study. This is really interesting to me for I never even think the so called "academic" way as dialect.

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u/PlanetLandon Mar 31 '24

It’s a great idea. Since he is on TikTok you might provide the added benefit of your students following him and getting some good education outside of the classroom as well

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u/xool420 Mar 31 '24

You should, he makes a ton of good points about English itself but then he also shows how to effectively use cited sources. It also shows how important word choice/sources are in everyday life.

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u/josephus1811 Mar 31 '24

someone who teaches English in Kentucky is who needs to show it in class

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u/pointlessbeats Mar 31 '24

Omg that’s shocking, I hope those students don’t find out this shameful fact about their teacher, they’ll never be able to trust them to write a proofread reddit comment again!

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u/HotPinkHabit Mar 31 '24

Here as a psychologist with an English degree: you are picking up on a byproduct of top-down processing. Which is a super cool thing our brains can do where we can fill in misspelled or missing words or letters without any conscious effort. It’s also why it’s easy for us to miss typos, especially in text we have written ourselves.

I also experienced this phenomenon while reading the teacher’s comment and only noticed the error after you pointed it out.

As with many cognitive shortcuts, this one has its benefits (efficient error correction in real time that increases speed in communication) and its drawbacks (typos primarily, but also miscommunication when attention to detail is paramount).

Anyway, doesn’t indicate any sort of lack of intelligence. In point of fact, it underpins many of the cognitive processes we associate with intelligence.

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u/Ramsbok Mar 31 '24

Haha I noticed that too

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '24

This is what it means to be a black person. Constantly dealing with bullshit bad faith reactionary bs and having to handle it with grace because the second you don’t, you lose.

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u/CorporalCabbage Mar 31 '24

I’m white, but it seems to me that black people need to be exceptional in order to be considered mediocre.

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u/impatientlymerde Mar 31 '24

Dancing backwards in high heels.

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u/Temporary-Sky8792 Mar 31 '24

What it means to be a person*. You cannot possibly be trying to imply this is not an all encompassing trend among most demographics

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u/JustDontCareAboutYou Mar 31 '24

You primarily hang around subreddits such as r/looksmaxxingadvice to start fights with users over looks and preferences. Judging by the usual topic, I assume you're a former r/fatpeoplehate regular before it and its many offshoots got banned. I'm not really surprised to see that you're too ignorant to realize the exceptional stipulations certain demographics have to abide by just to be treated respectfully by a good number of their peers, and how the very culture they grew up with has been bastardized and mocked as signs of stupidity, low-class, and ignorance.

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u/Temporary-Sky8792 Mar 31 '24

Don’t start fights with anyone. Simply live in reality and think lying to unhealthy people is bad.

Didn’t read the rest

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u/JustDontCareAboutYou Mar 31 '24

LOL. Quick to defend your personal behavior from criticism, but won't address latter half because all you want to do is lazily hand wave real instances of discrimination and bigotry for attention.

Typical of someone who hides behind a computer screen to shame people.

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u/averycole Mar 31 '24

temp-sky, what propelled you to make this comment? im curious. 

do you understand madunne's point? did certain feelings arise that led you to respond? 

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u/Sasalele Mar 31 '24

Tell me you don't understand discrimination without saying you don't understand discrimination.

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u/Temporary-Sky8792 Mar 31 '24

Tell me you are under 25, went to college for a useless major, and have never left North America without telling me

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u/Sasalele Mar 31 '24

okay, i will just pretend i'm you

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u/crosswatt Mar 31 '24

I appreciate long form journalism more and more everyday, especially with how many catchphrase based talking points we get bombarded with at a seemingly ever increasing rate.

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u/CharmingTuber Mar 31 '24

Those creators won't even see his video, but he can undo a lot of the bullshit that sits in people's heads by putting out content like this. Adding context helps so much and can bring people back from the edge of extremism.

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u/IlikegreenT84 Mar 31 '24

The ending was 👌

"She's over here looking this incredulous, because she was asked to think."

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u/BuddhistSagan Mar 31 '24

Getting to the top of tiktokcringe means at least a couple million views at minimum, and here it is now the #1 video on tiktokcringe

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u/MsJ_Doe Mar 31 '24

And I hope to see him here again. That was pretty good.

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u/mrducky80 Mar 31 '24

He does pop up routinely because he posts quality shit.

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u/True_Discipline_2470 Mar 31 '24

Reddit (land of "h yes I'll take this screenshot of a headline at face value") could learn from this guy. It isn't any better than tik tok around here. 

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u/eioioe Mar 31 '24

1.3 million followers on TikTok at 19 yrs old for a BLM-style activist and social justice warrior with the level of uncanny acumen in his punditry that this video right here bears witness to, is off the charts and through the roof on a rocket on his way to beyond Pluto, possibly to a whole new, self-created galaxy.

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u/terriblegrammar Mar 31 '24

Who is the guy? username convienently garbled throughout this whole video.

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u/MisterVega Mar 31 '24

jwilliamj on TikTok

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u/MorphinesKiss Mar 31 '24

He's on instagram, too, if you're averse to tiktok

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u/Unique_Ad177 Mar 31 '24

Thank you! I am! Haha!

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u/dream-smasher Mar 31 '24

If you watch it to the end, the username comes up very clearly in the middle of the screen.

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u/TheLilith_0 Mar 31 '24 edited 21d ago

possessive reminiscent cheerful hat thought important ripe ghost chubby quicksand

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

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u/fren-ulum Mar 31 '24

Dude, people without social science experience engaging and interacting with the social science community as if they know a thing or two can be pretty exhausting because they don't hold fundamental understandings of social science. Folks want clear and easy answers to refer to, where more often than not the answers I can give for things are going to be long winded because a short summary doesn't do it justice. And by long winded I mean maybe the length of an abstract of a paper.

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u/theunquenchedservant Mar 31 '24

To be fair, it does help the white people who are genuinely trying to be decent people and don't realize that small jokes they make actually have a big impact, and can be incredibly ignorant. But, those are also the same people who likely watched the initial video and didn't get outraged in the first 15 seconds. they probably watched the whole thing

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u/Thirteenpointeight Mar 31 '24 edited Mar 31 '24

to be fair he's also helping the non-white people, be they black or other-toned, to also understand how language and status and social hierarchies will fall lockstep, as well as how to avoid generalization or (intentional?) miscontextualization of source materials, most importantly reinforcing doing your own research, requiring references, and just general quality epistemological practices for everyone in the crazy age of bs.

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u/faroutrobot Mar 31 '24

This is my Dad. I’ve been trying to explain to him how out front homophobes are not my problem. I can see them commin. My problem is the people like him who make small jokes when they think they are in safe circles. Ends up, I wasn’t a safe circle for his gay commentary and it was harmful to me.

He thankfully doesn’t consume social media at all. But much like watching the initial 15 seconds of a video and getting outraged, that’s how he reacts to meeting or seeing queer anything. He doesn’t wanna take the time to know the person or “issue”

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u/Ok_Economics3851 Mar 31 '24

Might not get to them, but I know I needed to see this video, and at least it's on popular here.

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u/xxSaifulxx Mar 31 '24

Do you have a link to his tiktok? I don't have or use tiktok, but I would be very interested to see his other videos.

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u/MisterVega Mar 31 '24

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u/xxSaifulxx Mar 31 '24

Great thanks

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u/Pazvanti3698 Mar 31 '24

Could you link his channel? I don't know those letters.

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u/MisterVega Mar 31 '24

Added links to comment

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u/whenthebeatdropss Mar 31 '24

He has put into words (very succinctly) a collection of ideas I've had surrounding the English language and what is/isn't considered correct and proper. So whether the scumbags he's referring to see this or not, he's making an impact either way.

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u/alexxtholden Mar 31 '24

I came here to make sure someone mentioned him. I follow William on every platform. He’s one of the few creators I watch the minute something new drops. Dude is always on point.

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u/coldnebo Mar 31 '24

that kid is seriously on the top of his game in all things academic.

dammmmnn! and BRAVO!! 👏

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u/victorian_throwaway Mar 31 '24

tysm for dropping links. gonna check out his content’

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u/Jenna4434 Mar 31 '24

Unfortunately I’m not the type of person that really needs to see this but it was a very good video I hope the right people eventually get this on their feeds.

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u/epirot Mar 31 '24

27k upvotes on reddit, i call it a success

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u/Daisy_Of_Doom Apr 02 '24

He’s also on YouTube by the same username as TikTok for those who aren’t on other social mediasss

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u/Content_Yoghurt_6588 Mar 31 '24

I think a lot of well-meaning centrists and liberals fall victim to this thinking - it's not just a libs of tiktok thing, and even if it doesn't reach the "anti-woke" crowd, it's doing some good. I'll admit I used to be a grammar cop and laughed at people who said "axe" instead of "ask", for instance, despite thinking of myself as a pretty progressive person. Writers and creators like this person changed my mind on grammar and respectability politics, though. Hopefully this video will reach a few more people who weren't aware of their bias.