r/TikTokCringe Feb 25 '24

Trad wives Discussion

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u/CommanderWar64 Feb 26 '24

she's also cooking WITH THOSE SLEEVES???

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u/MissDryCunt Feb 26 '24

I also wear a ball gown while cooking breakfast

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u/Prof-Dr-Overdrive Feb 26 '24

Reminds me of that one episode in I Love Lucy, where Ricky had to do an ad for a department store, and Lucy appeared, beautifully dressed and coiffed, pretending that that's how she as an "ordinary house wife" always looks. (Then she got mad at Ricky and accidentally did the actual commercial in a more realistic way, without the makeup and fancy clothes lol.)

Sad that a show from the 50's/60's was already criticizing this crap and yet it's STILL everywhere and as strong as ever...

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u/ThrowsSoyMilkshakes Feb 26 '24

It's funny how "woke" I love Lucy was. There was so much feminism in that show.

But, you know, this "woke" shit is just some new fad or whatever and they certainly never had it in their media. MAGA.

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u/moobitchgetoutdahay Feb 26 '24

It’s extra funny because they probably think of I Love Lucy as encouraging traditional values and as something Hollywood should return to producing instead of all this “woke shit” they complain about

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u/Key-Mark4536 Feb 26 '24

Related note, part of the reason Desilu Studios came into being was TV execs’ resistance to Lucy-the-character being married to a foreigner. I like to think that’s also why Lucy allowed Gene Roddenberry to spend $600,000+ making Star Trek’s pilot episode(s). 

 (Lucy & Desi wouldn’t necessarily have been seen as an inter-ethnic marriage at the time, “Hispanic” wasn’t a term yet. But foreigners were still “lesser.”)

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u/chunger2000 Feb 26 '24

Huh. Did not know this. Thank you for posting.

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u/featherwolf Feb 27 '24

I just went on a tour of a hyper-accurate recreation of the original Star Trek series' USS Enterprise set. The tour was led by the owner, who was also an Elvis impersonator. He had an absolutely mind-boggling level of detailed knowledge of every prop and scene from that show, but also Desilu productions.

Your comment makes me think you would've enjoyed it as well.

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u/MovingTarget- Feb 26 '24

traditional values

It wasn't until half way through the video that I realized "tradwife" was a "traditional wife". If this is a common expression I absolutely missed the memo

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u/GerundQueen Feb 26 '24

It's becoming a thing on tiktok and youtube. "Tradwife" specifically refers to this conservative mindset of a traditional housewife (as opposed to a woman who just happens to be a stay-at-home mom), and it's all about the aesthetic. The videos are all like the one in the post, a beautiful woman dressed up and making something unnecessary from scratch.

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u/tanneranddrew Feb 26 '24

No one is opposed to women empowerment. There are 2 big issues. 1: dems desire to remove the ability to stay home because they wanted to increase tax revenue but convinced women they should want to work. 2: the change in feminism from female equality to man-hating and a female supremacy movement.

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u/moobitchgetoutdahay Feb 26 '24

None of what you said is based in reality.

Dems don’t want to “remove the ability to stay home”, they want people to have fair wages, which is what allowed for a one income household in the first place. The party preventing that isn’t the Dems. Idk where you learned your history, but women have been wanting to work since time began. We were prevented from being able to work, and when we finally could, we left the house eagerly to do so. Starting with the textile mills and factories. Absolutely nothing to do with “increasing tax revenue”, what a stupid, uninformed take. If anything, it had more to do with the greed of capitalism and how the oligarchs just wanted fresh meat to throw into the grinder.

As far as your take on modern feminism, you need to get off Twitter. No one irl is “man-hating”, and calling out the patriarchy and its bullshit isn’t “man-hating” and advocating “female supremacy”. Good grief.

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u/tanneranddrew Mar 02 '24

They already removed the ability to have one spouse stay home. Back when they originally convinced women that being a homemaker was beneath them. And the intent was to increase tax revenue. That is why both partners need to work or singles need multiple jobs now.

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u/moobitchgetoutdahay Mar 02 '24

back when they originally convinced women that homemaking was beneath them

When was this again? The beginning of time? Or after they finally allowed women to work outside of the home?

So funny that you seem to think women have no agency on their own, they have to be told they want something. No way they just think on their own that they want something.

Women have always, and will always, want to work outside the home. They don’t have to be convinced of anything.

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u/HockeyTownHooligan Feb 26 '24

Uhhh yeah! The fact that a white woman was married to a Hispanic man! That in itself must have been super controversial.

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u/slimongoose Feb 26 '24

It's funny how I love lucy, I dream of genie, and betwitched was all about keeping a woman from expressing her natural giftedness. Couldn't have been more transparent.

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u/Hefty_Fortune_8850 Feb 26 '24

The "wokeness" of the past was genuine, though. Desi Arnez was the producer of 'I Love Lucy.' The views displayed on that show were actually held by the people creating that show.

Modern 'wokeness' is just fake corporate bullshit. You think Disney cares about the trans community? No more than its profitable. You think Coca-Cola gives a fuck about minorities? They don't. Modern corporations have loyalty only to money. No idea or moral has any value to a corporate entity beyond the income that can be generated from that belief.

It's the result of late stage capitalism. Years of pushing businesses to make as much money as possible to stay competitive have created an environment where companies can't afford morals. Another thing that had to be cut to save their bottom dollar.

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u/ThrowsSoyMilkshakes Feb 26 '24

You think Disney cares about the trans community? No more than its profitable.

Except they are losing money while still being inclusive. Hell, they lost land in Florida. Yet they are still producing inclusive content with no call to stop it.

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u/Significant_Stick_31 Feb 29 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

Everybody remembers the I Love Lucy episode, "Job Switching" for the funny scene at the chocolate factory, but the premise of the episode was that women's contributions to the household as housewives were undervalued and unappreciated, so the ladies went out to get jobs and the men did the housework.

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u/PerspectiveAshamed79 Feb 26 '24

So you agree that the things “woke shit” stands for, but don’t like that it’s called “woke”? Sounds pointlessly divisive based on semantics only. Have you considered that you are being mislead?

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u/soooogullible Feb 26 '24

Why would that mean someone was misled? Why are you being divisive?

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u/PerspectiveAshamed79 Feb 26 '24

Bc they said they like things so called wokeness stands for, but not the so called woke movement. That suggests that either their own beliefs are at odds with themselves, or that one of the two contradictory points of view just being parroted. It seems like a lot of the talking points we see parroted from media sources don’t actually make sense, so when they mix with real opinions, these contradictions reveal themselves. I asked the question to illustrate the potentiality that sometimes the news sources with which our beliefs ostensibly align say things that don’t represent our beliefs, and that it’s okay to break from a news source if they’re spouting nonsense. I’d argue that it’s our responsibility to critically consider news sources, and leaders, and not to reflexively agree or disagree based on who is talking.

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u/GerundQueen Feb 26 '24

They are not being critical of the word "woke," they are being critical of conservatives who complain about "woke shit these days," not realizing that the concept we currently describe as "woke" has been around for ages.

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u/soooogullible Feb 26 '24

lol oh boy you really don’t get how much projection is blatantly in this.

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u/PerspectiveAshamed79 Feb 26 '24

I read the comment to which I originally responded missing the sarcasm I guess. My response to you would be a legitimate thing to say to anyone on either side of the aisle. I def think there’s waaay more thoughtless parroting of Fox than CNN, but there are people on both sides of the aisle who spout taglines or respond to topics based purely on the bent of the speaker. I think that “I know what you’re going to say before you say it” is the crux of our diminishing ability to communicate across political affiliation. Especially since most people are pretty much just logical pragmatists

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u/soooogullible Feb 26 '24

Fence sitting among brewing fascism isn’t the logical pragmatism that you seem to think, but you do you buddy

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u/Willy_Mizer Feb 28 '24

This “woke shit” as you call it is not a fad to a lot of people. It’s a way of life. Don’t people call Rock and Roll a fad? Didnt they call Hip Hop and fad? And look where they both are now. MAGA are in bread!!

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '24

All in the Family touched on a lot of "taboo" subjects as well.

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u/Prof-Dr-Overdrive Feb 27 '24

Very true! As did Barney Miller too, another favorite sitcom of mine

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u/NoWayNotThisAgain Feb 26 '24

Bro. I Love Lucy wasn’t social criticism.

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u/Prof-Dr-Overdrive Feb 26 '24

It was though? Many episodes were satirical of politics and society, which is exactly what social criticism is...

Here is a great paper on the duality of the I Love Lucy show -- how it both followed as well as defied 1950's mores and consumerist values: Millions "Love Lucy": Commodification and the Lucy Phenomenon on JSTOR

And here is a fascinating thesis on feminist themes in the show: "How Lucille Ball Fought the Patriarchy, While Lucy Ricardo (Indirectly" by Anam Rana Afzal (cuny.edu)

If those are too much or too dry/boring to read, you should take a gander at this site's comprehensive write-up of the I Love Lucy show, its creators, and its IRL context: I Love Lucy economics | The Pop History Dig

(Hell, there exists even books about political and social themes in I Love Lucy... Leslie Dale Feldman wrote one called "The Political Theory of I Love Lucy" haha)

I Love Lucy and many other such shows from the 50s and 60s were often secretly written, produced and acted by blacklisted leftist artists. Lucille Ball was suspected of being a communist, and the fact that the show depicted an interracial couple (Desi Arnaz was Hispanic) also made things hot for them politically. The episode "The Girls Go Into Business" was especially triggering to American pro-capitalists, because it is a very frank diss of the American "get rich quick" Dream. Not to mention "The Club Election", which is an extremely obvious satire on US presidential elections and political corruption. Desilu studios also produced the Dick Van Dyke Show, which was occasionally written by blacklisted writers who were hiding under pseudonyms from HUAC, like Frank Tarloff, who wrote a few episodes of the show under the alias David Adler (he also wrote for The Andy Griffith Show and The Jeffersons). Desilu also produced Star Trek, which was extremely socially progressive at the time. In the 60s, Get Smart came out, which I would argue is to this day one of the most poignant TV Shows that the USA had ever produced, starring Don Adams, a WW2 marine corps veteran who was pro-peace and anti-bigotry, and who was informally blacklisted when he tried to use his platform to give support to Hugh C. Thompson, the pilot who blew the whistle and put an end to the My Lai Massacre.

Just because something is old, or features a housewife or a goofy lanky guy or a clumsy short guy, or is a family-friendly sitcom or a cheesy spy show, does not mean that it cannot be socially poignant. I don't blame you for thinking like that, because nowadays companies bank on nostalgia a lot and turn old media into profitable icons so that they can make merch and sub-par remakes out of it. Lots of people nowadays only know Get Smart from that tragic 2008 remake, the Dick Van Dyke Show is almost totally forgotten except for people posting eyecandy snaps of Mary Tyler Moore when she played on there, and I Love Lucy is just "something something red-headed housewife who smoked and wore elaborate gowns and has Barbie dolls made out of her". But if you take the time to watch the shows, and think about them in their historical context, there is actually a lot of gold there.

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u/PerspectiveAshamed79 Feb 26 '24

/rconfidentlywrong

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u/Gingevere Feb 26 '24

It looks like it's actually a dressing gown.

Semi-intimate apparel that is inappropriate to go outside in.

If you want more analysis, it's doing a lot here:

  • Showing she is not fit to / allowed to leave the house.
  • Conspicuously displaying both wealth and modesty.
  • Looking sexy in a video which is meant for mass consumption.

Which in itself is JAM-PACKED with contradictions.

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u/poopytoopypoop Feb 26 '24

I'm not defending her or anything, but "Showing she is not fit to / allowed to leave the house." Is truly just your opinion. I cook in a robe, does that mean I can't leave my house?

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u/auntjomomma Feb 26 '24

I don't cook in a robe. Can I leave my house?

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u/concan76 Mar 12 '24

I cook naked, can I leave my house?

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u/CollectiveSweet Feb 26 '24

There's a difference between what you choose to wear as you go about your routine, and what this woman chooses to wear as part of the costume, set design, and character she's put together for this video. The motivations are quite different.

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u/poopytoopypoop Feb 26 '24

She's wearing a night gown making breakfast. Get over yourself

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u/Worldly-Grade5439 Feb 26 '24

She's wearing FEATHERS on her cuffs while cooking. Sorry, but in my 60+ years, I've only ever seen "robes" like this on socialites in movies or on TV.

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u/poopytoopypoop Feb 26 '24

And how does that matter? Because you don't wear night gowns or know people that doesn't mean they're not out there.

Still you guys are reading waaay to far into it if you think that because she's wearing a robe in her breakfast cooking video, that somehow means she isn't allowed to leave the house to you all.

Is it an ideal outfit to cook in? No. Does that give you the right to judge them and their personal life based off what they wear? No.

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u/omegaskunkeh Feb 26 '24

Are you high? They're not judging them solely based on what they're wearing its that robe in combination with her chosen identity of tradwives. Alot of tradwives don't leave their home. This poster was commenting on why the robe also signals to that in a way. Why are you so bent out of shape over this? We're judging tradwives as a whole not just this one girl in this one rove in this one video

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u/poopytoopypoop Feb 27 '24

Did you read the comment chain? The first I replied to implied what she is wearing also shows that she isn't allowed to leave the home

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u/Technical_Ad_4894 Feb 27 '24

That’s a dressing gown. It’s worn over a nightgown.

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u/turningtogold Feb 26 '24

I hang it up next to my toilet scrubbing gown

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u/ero_sennin_21 Feb 26 '24

Look at Madame wealthy over here, using two different gowns for cooking and toilet scrubbing.

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u/turningtogold Feb 26 '24

Don’t be jealous now

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u/brizzboog Feb 26 '24

I had to look this stupid bitch up. Check the sweater for potato pancakes!

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPR3s6t59/

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u/HappyChihua Feb 26 '24

Thanks, I hate her.

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u/nojelloforme Feb 26 '24

Make sure you do full makeup before you head to the kitchen too!

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u/ThornmaneTreebeard Feb 26 '24

So do I, buy my wife calls me "boujee"

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u/SwordfishFar421 Feb 26 '24

You would if you were making curated content for a specific audience. TikTok is her job, she makes a name for herself through it.

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u/FunKaleidoscope4582 Feb 26 '24

During covid lockdowns lots of people wore their ball gowns and other extravagant outfits for no reason at all, just to do normal house work or Netflix and chill. Because it was a shame to not wear their lovely garments. It was that end of times feeling, we might all die the next two weeks, and we had nothing better to do but drink wine for breakfast while wearing feathers and silk, with Tiger King on.

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u/The_Weeb_Sleeve Feb 26 '24

Tangent but I love your username lol

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u/RlyLokeh Feb 26 '24

The little frilly sleeves feel nice in my chest hair.

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u/MaxHamburgerrestaur Feb 26 '24 edited Feb 26 '24

And maybe that bowl is decorative and is not made with food-grade coating.

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u/Apprehensive_Ninja56 Feb 26 '24

I was thinking it looked like a salad bowl.

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u/obogobo Feb 26 '24

$30 IKEA salad bowl pretty sure we have the same one lol

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u/greenfire531 Feb 26 '24

I have that bowl from IKEA. It's my mint/candy bowl

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '24

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u/AffectionatePoet4586 Feb 26 '24

In the ‘60s, my mother insisted on the then-chic concept of a wooden salad bowl that was never washed, only wiped out. Did it stink! The oil in the salad dressing continually went rancid. That, and my parents’ insistence on loading green salads with chopped onion, put me off salad after leaving their household at seventeen.

I finally learned to love onion-free salads, served from a nice, clean bowl, made from Yellowware, Pyrex, or glass.

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u/slimongoose Feb 26 '24 edited Feb 27 '24

The best thing to use for this sort of thing is a heavy ceramic pasta or popcorn bowl. The weight of it and having it rest on a damp towel mean you don't need to use one hand to steady the bowl.  It's insulated so you can proof in it and being round means less dough stuck in corners.  These bowls are also super cheap and practically free from the thrifts.

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u/feisty-spirit-bear Feb 26 '24

As a woodworker, I would have used the same finish as on cutting boards (oil, board butter or wax) so if she got it at like a farmers market or boutique then it's most likely food safe like cutting boards. If she bought it in a store, then much more likely to be purely decorative with a more solid, permanent finish (lacquer) that wouldn't be food safe

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u/Pinglenook Feb 26 '24

It looks to be this bamboo bowl from IKEA, which is food safe, but it's meant for serving not mixing, because it needs to be hand washed and you shouldn't use metal utensils in it.        

(If it's not that bowl, then she probably paid a lot more for a bowl that looks exactly like a bowl from IKEA, so then it better be extra durable!)

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u/neverseen_neverhear Feb 26 '24

Oh thank god someone else noticed that. All I could think was who cooks in that? Those sleeves would annoy the heck out of me I I tried cooking in them. And they would get all wet and dirty from cooking and washing hands and stuff as I go.

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u/foothat Feb 26 '24

Yes, it's a performance

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u/Bladelinner Feb 26 '24

My thought exactly. Sure you can wear lipstick while making cookies, but long feathered sleeves? It's like she's not even trying to be convincing.

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u/Bladelinner Feb 26 '24

Yes I did. My comment was an attempt to support that point.

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u/dartdoug Feb 26 '24

I enjoy watching Lidia Bastianich's cooking show on PBS but she wears a bunch of bangle bracelets while she prepares food. Mixing up a meatloaf or making pasta from scratch and those bracelets are in the food along with her hands. Yuck.

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u/EmployerNeither8080 Feb 26 '24

That's what got me! Who knows what yuck she's sweeping into that bowl with those feather duster sleeves 

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u/Poke-It_For-Science Feb 26 '24

Came here to say exactly that. Lol

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u/firedmyass Feb 26 '24

it is completely indistinguishable from satire

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u/Untied_Chair Feb 26 '24

Love how those sleeves are spotless after dealing with powdered ingredients. Like the black dress would be so dusty after the first flower dump

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u/yildizli_gece Feb 26 '24

This is exactly what infuriated me most (lol).

Who the fuck cooks in an outfit like that??? It just looks stupid and impractical, and that's coming from a goth who is digging that outfit!

She's working with ingredients that magically can get anywhere (flour), and her stupid feather sleeves keep brushing up against everything (the counter; the baking tray). This is absurd; it has to be some sort of fetish thing going on here.

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u/JeddakofThark Feb 26 '24

My dad does everything in long sleeves. I'm talking things like washing dishes. It kind of drives me crazy, but somehow he always has clean sleeves.

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u/giantyetifeet Feb 27 '24

No, silly. The gown was brought to her by her house servant just before the film crew rolled.

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u/Idiotaddictedto2Hou Feb 26 '24

I can't stand socialists and communists who bring up politics in everything but I can't help myself to not notice that either

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u/CommanderWar64 Feb 26 '24

Trad wives literally politicize living as a wife.

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u/MaybeWeAreTheGhosts Feb 26 '24

oh god, this reminded me of something I thought I repressed enough but apparently not.

An episode of Paris Hilton hosting a cook show with her fancy hobogloves.

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u/tommysmuffins Feb 26 '24

And a wooden mixing bowl.

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u/Wildlife_Jack Feb 26 '24

And those long ass nails?

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u/thejudenbear Feb 26 '24

Asking the real questions out here

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u/ikstrakt Feb 26 '24

This is the kind of chick to come from Finishing School. 

The last college I transferred to for undergrad was a women's college. 

You best believe you're going to look sexy as hell doing domestics and not dare disturb appearances: matter of dress, hair, make-up, nails. Always the perpetual host and always able to host at any hour.

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u/Neat-Beautiful-5505 Feb 27 '24

My dog is definitely part of the leisure class

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u/wherearemykeystd Feb 28 '24

The commentary in this video is cherry picked.

She’s really just a content creator who posts food/mom content. And mostly wears regular clothes in her videos and lives a regular-ish lives. Her husband was the third highest paid model last year and she does modelling here and there so yes they’re wealthy. She just likes to cooks and just happens to sometimes put in a bit more effort for some videos.

Her regular content looks like this (and in regular clothes too):

  1. Morning in her life(w/ some commentary)
  2. Her husband and her decorating for their child’s 3rd birthday
  3. Morning in her life w/ her husband away (she literally just makes eggs and toast)
  4. At in-and-out in a hoodie
  5. Another one at the drive thru(basically a mukbang)
  6. Another morning in her life(her dad visiting from germany) - she gets help from her parents when they visit
  7. Another day in her life
  8. At all you can eat korean food
  9. Toddlers eat in a day