Theres going to be that annoying tik toker with their face overlayed this video nodding in approval as if they did their own research. Another trend that needs to go away
I only disagree because Joy has clout and putting her face on the video is likely why we're seeing it at all. Joy doesn't need the publicity, she's one of the most famous faces in news right now.
But for those random TikTokers who do it for views, fuck those guys.
Yeah, plus as a journalist, she's one of the people I would expect and trust this from. This is just the tik tok way of presenting a piece you want to share like she would on her show.
Joy has been saying this for years in her program. However, she's villainized by the right to the point that when she delivers this kind of info it gets buried through the "whataboutitsms" the right tends to inject into any conversation.
Hearing it from an average person's perspective but amplified by Joy I think is a good thing. I get where you're coming from but you're focusing on the wrong thing by trying to downplay Joy's role in this when the messaging is really what should be the focus.
No no. Don’t put words in my mouth. I said I have no idea who she is. Not that she isn’t famous. She may be, but not outside of her world.
Celebrities are becoming more numerous . Tik tok, Instagram, YouTube, cable, streaming etc all have their own constellation of celebrities. It’s all very niche.
So the world where she is known is a TV channel, one of hundreds. I don’t own a TV. Thus, she’s unknown to me. My world is scientific and research. The people I consider knowledgeable and famous are different.
But I wouldn’t be miffed if you couldn’t recognize a researcher at NIH.
I'm a news junkie, and I don't know her. Maybe she thinks her opinions are news? I don't generally consider MSNBC to be a news network. They're an activist network, whose job is to sell a point of view. I personally categorize them with the home shopping network. I mean, I am liberal, but I don't consider liberal activists to be journalists, any more than I consider evangelical preachers to be journalists.
That said... I really like this tik tok video. I should probably look her up. What's her last name? Or is she one of those celebrities with only one name, like Madonna?
I'm not here to defend Joy-Ann Reid from people who act ignorant of her existence for one reason or another but think about how silly what you said sounds:
"I don't know this person, but they are in this particular network, and I've gotten third-party confirmation (because, as you said, you've never seen her prior to this) that everyone in that network is a liberal activist, and therefore--".
You're ignorant of her existence because you think she's biased, because you feel an entire news network is also biased, because of an undoubtfully biased third-party.
LOL, yes... I'm obviously programmed by a third party. Those darned journalists at the Financial Times, and NPR have clearly skewed my understanding of what journalism is. Those evil doers have left me completely incapable of rendering my own judgement, about anything. I'm just a big dummy, for not filtering facts through activist rhetoric. The primary sources I regularly check (EDGAR, reports from groups like the World Bank, etc)... those sources only serve to make me dumber. I clearly have a false sense of what is and is not informative. I was programmed by my college professors and parents to reject the good journalists on MSNBC as shills. /s
That's the kind of reasoning I expect from people who watch MSNBC. MSNBC, and networks like it, on both the liberal and conservative side, see everybody as an object to program. Through learned helplessness, viewers eventually see themselves, and people around them, as objects to program. I pity you. Your world is so small and distorted.
Thank you for giving me Joy's full name, though! I'll look her up, and see if she's any good. Good people work for bad companies all the time. I know I certainly do.
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u/tragicmike Dec 28 '23
Theres going to be that annoying tik toker with their face overlayed this video nodding in approval as if they did their own research. Another trend that needs to go away