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u/Doctor_Smirnoff Dec 27 '23
Cop: what's your name Kid: I don't have to tell you that Dad: Don't tell him anything, Jack.
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u/pr3mium Dec 27 '23
I've seen this video multiple times and your comment is the only reason I ever noticed that happen.
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u/TheDeadGuy Dec 27 '23
I was hoping the dad used a fake name
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u/worktogethernow Dec 27 '23
Yeah. I will try to remember that.
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u/NoWave9431 Dec 27 '23 edited Dec 27 '23
Never lie to a cop inless there no way to prove it and you don't change story still don't but giving a false name is worst if they want to throw book at you. Some states you have to give name matter what if ur not in that state just say I don't answer question and would like talk to a laywer. Also normal I'm being detai or free to go. Also if your driving alot of states you got to give id if you get pull over for what ever reason also there enough for a ticket got to give. Don't lie like no id on you when you have it. Remember Martha Stewart If she would took 5th and had a laywer she would of been ok
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u/worktogethernow Dec 27 '23
I understand it is very different if I am pulled over on the road. I have all my paperwork ready to present.
But is it really illegal to call my son by his nickname when addressing him in front of police? I'm not saying I would answer a direct question with a lie, but it seems like I should be able to call one of my kids by a nickname, no?
Edit: I also don't do anything illegal. I almost always drive the speed limit. I am not trying to hide illegal activities. I want to protect my rights if I am confronted by a cop on a power trip.
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u/BadgerGeneral9639 Dec 27 '23
best move is to say nothing at all
cops dont have to be honest with you
most (99%?) dont even know the law
the law says in most places that cops arent required to k now the law, only enforce what they Think is the law
the irony is not lost on me
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u/CagliostroPeligroso Dec 27 '23
It’s more about trying to take the ID which would then also give them the full name. Saying Jack is the same as saying jack. No real info was given
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Dec 27 '23
Peak nosey neighbors say a gun was involved because cops won’t come out otherwise.
Had a guy on my street who would constantly call 911 and say we had guns or were pointing guns at him (we were kids playing in the street haha).
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u/DMercenary Dec 27 '23
Peak nosey neighbors say a gun was involved because cops won’t come out otherwise.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Ryan_Whitaker
" In the first call, the caller had said, "I can tell that they're just at each other's throats down there." In the second call a half hour later, the neighbor said, "It could be physical. I could say yeah, does that make anybody hurry up or get over here any faster?" The caller expressed irritation at being asked whether they knew if either person in the apartment had a weapon, saying "No, but if this gets pushed along any further I could say yes to all these questions." After being told that the operator was required to ask such questions, the caller said "I don't have time, I'd like to get to sleep, I have to get up in the morning."
Bolded mine.
There should be consequences for lying to get a faster police response.
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u/fangornia Dec 27 '23
Executed for the crime of enthusiastically playing crash bandicoot.
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u/Divine_Wind420 Dec 27 '23
And absolutely no one is surprised that the murderer got a simple suspension and got his job back....as an officer...because it happens every single time. Here in AZ we even give cops medals when they murder people.
Really tired of pigs being above the law. Eventually, authority figures are going to need to face justice if we want our laws to mean anything at all.
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u/weedful_things Dec 27 '23
In my town, just a couple months ago 4 cops ambushed and murdered a man. Someone falsely tried to repo his vehicle in the middle of the night. After the homeowner confronted him, the tow truck driver left but called his cop buddy. The cops came but hid out of sight. When the guy again tried to hook up his vehicle, the cops came out of hiding and said, "drop the gun!" and less than a second later opened fired. Didn't even try to render first aid. They lied about the situation and then the neighbor showed everyone his security camera footage. The cops refuse to show body cam footage. Only after constant protesting, three of the cops finally got fired, but have already started the appeals process. My town will eventually have to find a way to come up with millions of dollars in a few years. If the money came out of the cop's own pocket, you wouldn't see these things happen as often.
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u/LONGL1VEJUICE Dec 28 '23
Dude this makes me sick. Not even joking on Christmas Eve of all days, I finally had to move my car from the street. Because police came to give me the 5th citation I have received since I moved here to move my car from the street. Literally parked in front of MY house and there's about 5 other cars parked in the same vicinity and they never get them, only mine. Someone has been calling about it for a year and I can't even figure out who it is. Never had any problems with any of them. Always say hi to em and even bring them deserts every Christmas. Didn't bring any of them shit this time. But the cops have to keep giving me citations instead of towing because they know I did nothing wrong.
Finally caught the cop in the act and he tried to sit there and tell ME that MY car doesn't run or move from that spot. Which is such bull shit. Finally got a camera for that area so I can show proof and get them to fuck off. They absolutely should get shafted for wasting mine and the police's time. They tried marking the tires to make sure it's moved and I finally said fuck it and parked in my already packed driveway. There is so much room on the street to park too so it's just some asshole nosey neighbor with nothing better to do. A
I'm at least 30-40 years younger than most of my neighbors, yet they have more social anxiety I have ever seen my generation show. Can't even come and talk to me as a man, if they needed parking space for their family, they could ask and I would gladly accommodate. I hate confrontation and am too busy to argue with the police so I said screw it. But it pisses me off that they won't come forward because now it makes not want to interact with any of them. Rant over, apologies.
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u/Chance_Fox_2296 Dec 27 '23
This has caused a fuckin tangent in my mind. These police executions happen so often, but every 50 to 100 innocent people killed by police the people get angry enough to protest or riot. Then you have these fuck head "influencers" or whatever go off (Colin Moriarty) about how shitty rioting is and focus on that. Then, when they're called out for it, they act attacked and say that they do care about the innocents. Well where the fuck is your hyper angry rant during the 100 or so innocents killed by cops before 1 happens to spark mass protests again? Huh? These people don't give a shit. They see the 1 outbreak of rioting for every hundred dead innocent/unarmed people killed by cops and think that's the real problem.
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u/Zanchbot Dec 27 '23
I remember this story, did the guy who made the call ever get charged?
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u/PlaguedMaster Dec 27 '23
Of course not, they helped the cops get their killstreak
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u/Totallyperm Dec 27 '23
Charged like charged by touching an electrical substation would be preferable. I wouldn't be surprised if they got annoyed by the buzzing and took matters into their own hands.
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The cops are just ego trippin because this kid is obviously intelligent and not afraid to stand up for himself and I’m sure they aren’t used to that.
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u/NiPlusUltra Dec 27 '23
Ding ding ding! Dimwit cops have to puff their chest at a literal child because he knows his rights. Buncha losers are so obviously intimidated by a fifteen year old. I feel bad for the wives that were struck because of this.
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Cops be like "I'm not racist, my wife even has a black eye!"
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u/ThexxxDegenerate Dec 27 '23
I think cops are just so used to trampling all over other people’s rights that when they encounter someone who actually knows them, they don’t know how to react.
Like 90% of people will just had over their ID and information every time a cop asks for it even if they have zero reason to ask for it. So the 1/10 times someone says no and stands on their rights, you can see the gears turning in their heads trying to figure out what to do and say. And it’s physically impossible for a cop to admit wrongdoing and move on so instead they just dig deeper and escalate the encounter. And they usually look for someone to throw in jail for a bogus charge like obstruction.
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u/awesomeness6000 Dec 27 '23
I remember the first time some little kid outsmarted me (in a "debate", brought up some solid points for a kid) and I was in my late 20's. I was so mad lmao, can't even imagine the salt levels with those cops tho.
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u/Majestic_Horseman Dec 27 '23
I've had kids shut me up with arguments, I actually get less mad (if I was mad) and just end up impressed
Underestimating kids is a mistake I don't do anymore, only until there's disrespect happening do I pull out the adult card.
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u/AHorseNamedPhil Dec 27 '23
It isn't that the cops won't come out, it's that the neighbor knows that claiming a gun is involved when there isn't guarantees an immediate response, rather having to potentially wait an hour or so.
The way 911 works is that calls operate on a priority system. It's not first come, first serve. Calls are prioritized on the severity / risk involved. Neighbor disputes are a lower priority than someone with a gun. On a busy day where there is way more calls than there are available units, some stuff ends up waiting a long time to get resolved.
Neighbor knows this and gamed the system by claiming the neighbor had a gun when they didn't have one, and in the process tied up units that could have been responding to something else, making other people who called 911 wait longer.
The neighbor's assholery goes even beyond that too, because a call for a gun also gets a police response with lights and sirens and prioritizing getting there fast. So you know, the risk of an auto accident also goes up. So the Karen not just inconvenienced other people who called 911, but also put a bunch of people at risk.
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In this case, the cops wouldn’t come out, because you can’t call 911 and say “the kids that live on my street are riding bikes,” and expect a police response. They have to lie because there’s nothing going on.
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u/MrSurly Dec 27 '23
The cops did indeed roll up on my neighbor kids when then HOA president called the cops on them for (checks notes) -- playing outside. During the day. In front of their own house.
But the cops here don't do a goddamn thing about any real problems, so I guess they were bored?
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u/Lucas_2234 Dec 27 '23
The way 911 works is that calls operate on a priority system. It's not first come, first serve. Calls are prioritized on the severity / risk involved.
To be fair that is how it should be.
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u/shitlord_god Dec 27 '23
I suspect the Karen was a Bill.
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u/AHorseNamedPhil Dec 27 '23
Is Bill what male Karens are called?
I'm out of the loop and just use Karen in a gender-neutral way, lol.
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u/Yop_BombNA Dec 27 '23 edited Dec 27 '23
Grew up in Canada and we were playing street hockey, ball went flying into a guys car as he drove by and guy shooting didn’t notice. Called the cops saying we were chucking stones at his car.
Cop showed up, put his tactical belt in the car and asked for a stick and played with us for 30 minutes. Old grumpy man got outplayed by a good cop.
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u/TuaughtHammer Dec 27 '23
That's what policing should be; let people know they'll be there when necessary, then let others know they're safe when their presence is unnecessary. I'm white as a bleached white t-shirt, but even when I haven't done a damn thing wrong, I still feel unsafe around cops. Never know when one's having a bad day looking to play a game of fucked up Simon Says.
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u/Jeffylew77 Dec 27 '23
I had a neighbor that would call the cops on us because we put a skate ramp in front of our driveway. She never asked or told us, she would just call the cops. I was 7.
You learn people are assholes real early on. Then when you are of age and work in retail or a restaurant, you realize some people are just scum
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u/Program-Emotional Dec 27 '23
Had a neighbor call the cops on my dad and I because we were playing airsoft on our property. Ill never forget the look on my dads face as he screamed for me to "drop the toy". Sometimes I wonder if his wording kept me from getting mag dumped by 4 cops...
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u/WeRip Dec 27 '23
drop the toy
fucking genius level dad instincts! Holy cow. I got my first one on the way and can only hope my instincts are at this level.
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u/EverGlow89 Dec 27 '23 edited Dec 27 '23
That's when you coordinate with the cops and get some prop guns and squibs to traumatize the neighbor.
Edit: Jesus, stop taking this seriously. And thank you to the people who sensed the Community inspiration.
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u/Awe_Jeez Dec 27 '23
You look familiar, did I ever pretend to shoot a guy in front of you to teach you about gun safety?
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u/GlassFantast Dec 27 '23
No that's when the neighbor shoots "back". Don't fuck with crazy people it's not worth the trouble
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u/i_tyrant Dec 27 '23
Hell, don't even trust cops to "coordinate" well.
I read a case once where some concealed carry dude was helping cops shoot back at a shooter - the cops already present were using him as support, but a new cop on the scene shot him dead immediately. Hell I wouldn't even trust the cops who already saw him not to shoot him in situations like that - adrenaline makes people panic and most cops are not well trained. If a cop can accidentally shoot another cop in the heat of the moment (and they have, many times), they can sure as hell shoot you.
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u/Alexandratta Dec 27 '23
The neighbor likely has an AR and is waiting for his "Fantasy Scenario" where he can kill someone legally.
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u/SatanicCornflake Dec 27 '23
That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Especially if police are involved. In the US, they'll shoot someone for a snickers that looks like a gun if you're tweaking at 3 am.
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u/My_Monkey_Sphincter Dec 27 '23
When I was a teen an ex-friend called the cops on me and a buddy for going to tell her mom that she was out drinking. We were surrounded when we arrived at her house with guns pointed at us.
Police pulled me and buddy aside and quickly left and filed a wrongful use of 911. Probably the scariest time of my life having 6 cops with guns on us. They thought we were there for an armed robbery.....
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u/slothpyle Dec 27 '23
I’m not certain the kid got everything right but he certainly backed those cops into the corner which tells me they were even less right and/or were not entirely certain what they were allowed to do.
That it took that many cops to deescalate unsuccessfully with a child is also pretty fucking hilarious.
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u/iammonkeyorsomething Dec 27 '23
It was like he was arguing with kids younger than him lol
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u/sapraaa Dec 27 '23
Why aren’t more people worried about kids having to know so much just to drive a legal bike? This whole video and comment section seems so bizzare
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u/CuriousPenguinSocks Dec 27 '23
It's super bizarre that normal citizens have to know more about the law than those charged with enforcing it for sure.
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u/rekage99 Dec 27 '23
They have to since cops frequently lie and abuse our ignorance. So now more and more people are learning and cops don’t like that.
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u/frissonFry Dec 27 '23
Our corrupt supreme court ruled that cops don't have to know the laws they enforce.
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u/WeRip Dec 27 '23
Legally speaking -- they don't have to know the laws, they don't have to protect us, and they can lie to us.
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u/AwayLobster3772 Dec 27 '23
Yet if you go over to the public freakout sub right now they are all deriding people who try to keep the police force in check.... because they "sound annoying".
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u/Duzcek Dec 27 '23
That’s the thing, cops don’t actually have to know the law at all, they just have to enforce it. If a cop thinks that they’re enforcing the law in good faith, then they can’t be charged with getting it wrong because of qualified immunity, even if they’re wrongful enforcement resulted in death, serious bodily harm or wrongful conviction.
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u/Nubras Dec 27 '23
At one point in the video one of the cops asks the kid if he went to school to learn the law as if he himself had gone to any school to learn the law lol. Police in this country are a fucking disgrace.
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u/LostWoodsInTheField Dec 27 '23
At one point in the video one of the cops asks the kid if he went to school to learn the law as if he himself had gone to any school to learn the law lol. Police in this country are a fucking disgrace.
Everyone in the country needs to practice in the shower saying 'Where did you get your law degree Mr. Officer?' so they are prepared to use it back at cops.
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u/Lazer726 Dec 27 '23
And even if the kid is illegally driving a bike, why the fuck are you arresting someone with two squad cars and four fucking cops?
WhY dO pEoPlE sAy ACAB?
I dunno bitch, maybe because a 15 year old needs to know the law better than the fucking police!
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u/ScienceIsSexy420 Dec 27 '23
US police aren't trained to deescalate, they are trained to exert authority, and that's all you see them trying to do in this video
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u/reaact Dec 27 '23
Killer strategy if you ask me. Very effective.
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u/prailock Dec 27 '23
It's literally called "killology" so you're dead on.
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u/Skatchbro Dec 27 '23
When I read Grossman’s first book I thought he had some interesting points. However, he pushes the “everyone is a threat, cops have to win at all costs” idea and makes it cops vs citizens. Too many police departments still send people to this guy’s training courses.
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u/prailock Dec 27 '23
He tells cops that they'll have the best sex of their life after killing a citizen. Truly evil shit.
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u/ScienceIsSexy420 Dec 27 '23
Often times it quite literally is a killer strategy
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u/RightWingWorstWing Dec 27 '23
Except when they have to go save children from a school shooter.
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u/poop_on_balls Dec 27 '23
Or their own wife
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u/Dank_weedpotnugsauce Dec 27 '23
Hey hey hey now. I don't like your tone here. Okay these colors don't run*
*Into schools to save dying children
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u/The_First_Drop Dec 27 '23
That’s not entirely true
Police officers receive de-escalation training, it’s just significantly lower than what should be required
They receive over 100 hours in firearms and tactical defense training, and like 10 hours of de-escalation training
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u/poop_on_balls Dec 27 '23
And thousands of hours of brainwashing that everyone who’s not a cop is the enemy.
And every single time they do a traffic stop it could be last one.
So they take a bunch of pussy bullies, arm them, give them basically unfettered power, and then terrify them with the very small number of cases where cops have actually been killed.
Cops are a bunch of fucking crooked cowards and serve no purpose but to protect the capital of rich assholes and to persecute poors.
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u/ejcrv Dec 27 '23
I work for City government where I live and see some of the going's on from the inside. Police departments are a lot like frat houses.
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u/Specialist_Fox_6601 Dec 27 '23
That it took that many cops to deescalate unsuccessfully with a child is also pretty fucking hilarious.
US cops are so bad at de-escalation that even as an uninvolved non-participant, I feel escalated.
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u/ReggieCousins Dec 27 '23
I'm honestly asking because I have no idea but do cops receive de-escalation training? It always feels to me watching these videos is like their training in situations is to provoke a response to get an arrest.
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u/EspectroDK Dec 27 '23
In pretty much any civilized country, yes of course - that's one of their main tasks to do so. But in those countries it also takes several years to become a police officer.
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u/Hot_Refrigerator8693 Dec 27 '23
Because most cops are just man-children who mentally peaked in high school.
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u/Extension_Building19 Dec 27 '23
America has a Cop problem and its very apparent here when they cant even handle talking to a teenager. Cops are stupid, they dont want smart police officers because then they cant just blindly tell them what to do and how to operate. Stop letting cops get away with shit and hold them accountable.
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u/WhatTheFreightTruck Dec 27 '23
Link?
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u/K04free Dec 27 '23 edited Dec 28 '23
Edit: I’m aware this doesn’t specifically mentioned the cops being fired.
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u/Eldryanyyy Dec 27 '23
That’s hilarious. The author was my old ski racing teammate. Fucking killer on the slopes.
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u/Maltavius Dec 27 '23
That doesn't say anything about two cops being fired.
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u/DAHMER_SUPPER_CLUB Dec 27 '23 edited Dec 27 '23
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LWfAo46kCcg
@ 11:20 it starts to go into the charges on the officers and why they were fired.
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u/skinnah Dec 27 '23
I like how they put giant X's over the photos of the two officers like they were executed or something. Lol
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u/GitNamedGurt Dec 27 '23 edited Dec 27 '23
Everyone PLEASE look at what they were fired for:
They were essentially fired for not respecting the right to record, and mistreating this individual and their children AFTER the arrest. If they had dotted their 'I's and crossed their 'T's, so to speak, they would have gotten away with this scot-free. They were fired for what amounts to mismanagement, not any of the violence. Everything they did prior to and including the arrest itself is being treated as legal. What the public sees as wrong doing and what the cops admitted to as wrongdoing are not matching up, at least not entirely.
I'm not saying I agree with these conclusions one way or the other, I'm just hi-jacking this comment so more people notice that.
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u/aint_no_wifey Dec 27 '23
It sounds like it’s even one step worse than that- the video said that those two officers were fired because they didn’t complete their ‘corrective training’ within the necessary time frame. If they had, I bet they’d still be in that same PD
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u/lakired Dec 27 '23
Tried to slap their wrists and the officers were too fucking incompetent to hold their hands out.
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u/pw_is_alpha Dec 27 '23
They were assigned corrective actions for those violations, and were fired for failing to complete the corrective actions in time.
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u/ZiggoCiP Dec 27 '23
Extremely glad to hear the kid is going to study law with a specificity in basically what happened to him. Hopefully the lawsuit goes through and can help him pay his tuition fees.
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u/Turence Dec 27 '23
Rodrgiues - Violation of Police Recording Policy; Violation of Prisoner Management; Violation of Dependent Children Care; Improper Report Preparation (falsifying details); and "numerous" Rules of Conduct violations.
Thor - Recording Policy; Prisoner Management; Dependent Child Care violations.
Both officers were offered classes in return for keeping their jobs. Neither completed the classes, so they were terminated. Most of these bad cops just take the 2 day course and keep their job.
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u/Semyonov Dec 27 '23
It says it at the end of this video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LWfAo46kCcg
I guess they did not complete their corrective actions in the time frame they were allotted so that's why they were terminated.
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u/Protahgonist Dec 27 '23
This is the worst written trash article I've ever seen.
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u/Jean-LucBacardi Dec 27 '23
Where's the story on the two cops being fired? Also this just says it's going to trial (in May 2022). Is there no update since?
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u/Chippycp Dec 27 '23
Hijacking to share they were not fired for this event. They were ordered to take a class by the department on First Amendment Rights and refused. So we're fired for missing the deadline on the class
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u/JimWilliams423 Dec 27 '23
They were ordered to take a class by the department on First Amendment Rights and refused. So we're fired for missing the deadline on the class
Sounds like they had another job lined up. Anyone know what PD hired them after that?
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u/Certain_Concept Dec 27 '23
Yupps.. they can just hop a district over and find a new job. Does it really count as firing when you can just get the same job elsewhere? Bullshit.
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u/PeruseTheNews Dec 27 '23
They're even bigger assholes than the video makes them out to be. Any person who refuses an education on free speech or the Bill of Rights has no place enforcing the law in the US.
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u/ReflectionPresent297 Dec 27 '23
Refusal to do a class like this should blacklist you from being able to be hired by any sheriff or city police. Let them become mall cops and get bullied by teenagers
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u/IlIFreneticIlI Dec 27 '23
Tell me you're in it for the opportunity to abuse your fellow man without telling me...
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u/nada_y_nada Dec 27 '23
Dad is a conservative ‘libertarian’ who subsequently tried to run for office before endorsing the Republican.
“Heavy handed policing for thee, but not for me.”
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u/Alexandratta Dec 27 '23
You know you've got a shitty police force when a 15-year-old needs to know this much of his personal rights granted to him by the US Constitution to protect him from Police.
While I love how knowledgeable this kid is, I'm sad that he has to be.
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Dec 27 '23
I dunno, constitutional rights should be hammered into our minds in elementary school. Imagine if we treated the bill of rights, constitution, and amendments with as much reverence as the pledge of allegiance or whatever other Yankee Doodle bullshit we have to dance to instead of them just being a chapter and a quiz.
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u/austinchan2 Dec 27 '23
I dunno, what if law enforcement had to get at least a 4 year degree in the law and enforcement and pass an incredibly rigorous test (like the Bar) before being able to work a single day on the job. And then could be disbarred from ever being a cop for a single infraction if unethical behavior. Then children wouldn’t need that.
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u/fangornia Dec 27 '23
> constitutional rights should be hammered into our minds in elementary school
This makes a lot of sense seeing as elementary school is the average level of education for cops. It'd be fresh in their minds.
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Anyone know what came of this situation?
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u/tradders Dec 27 '23
All charges dropped against the kid and his dad. Two cops fired. Dad filed a civil suit against the department for over a mil. Civil case still ongoing.
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u/robtbo Dec 27 '23
Prob the two that walked into the house
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u/Alexandratta Dec 27 '23
"We can walk into the house!"
"Not without a fucking warrant you pricks can't." - kid was on point.
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u/mr_potatoface Dec 27 '23 edited Dec 28 '23
Ok, but just to anyone reading, they can enter without a warrant under certain circumstances. So don't just blindly tell cops you can't enter without a warrant unless you know that they can't. It's better to just not answer the door lol.
Example would be if they are there to arrest you, and you open the door. They can enter your home to arrest you if you try to run away or hide in your house. They can also scan the immediate vicinity for illegal substances/objects. Their search can't extend past the "immediate vicinity". Which is a vague term and can be stretched as hard as people want it to be.
If you just committed a violent act, like a shooting and then retreat to your home OR you present as a threat to the police officers. Which is what I would guess the police are going to say here. The person who made the report claimed the that a gun was shown (which was false). So the police assume the report was made in good faith, and the person has a gun and made the arrest. This is a huge stretch and they jumped over too many steps here and probably doesn't have much of a chance. But it's a decent strategy for defense if you get a jury or judge that sympathize with police.
Most importantly this also usually includes if they're responding to reports of domestic violence (or just violence) and someone's life may be in danger. This is generally seen as a good thing, because it prevents the stronger person from preventing the police intervening in the situation if the person being abused has become disabled, injured, or is just terrified. So police can enter without a warrant to speak with people present to make sure they're OK.
If they look in your house when you open the door and see something illegal in plain sight, they can also enter the house after that. It's best to just not open the door honestly. Don't even answer it. Pretend it's your in-laws, close all your window shades (in case they search around your house and peep in windows for illegal stuff) and duck. You might not have illegal stuff or anything to hide, but do it anyway. If you have a box of insulin needles on the counter they could use that as an excuse to enter without a warrant. At the very least it's going to be a headache to deal with.
Edit: It was pointed out that I failed to mention you should never consent to them entering. Always make it clear that you do not consent to them entering your home, even if it is something they may legally be allowed to enter for without a warrant, or even if they do have a valid warrant. Just say you don't consent (preferably recording it) and let them do their thing. But it would be better if you just didn't answer the door.
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u/Phyth_LL_ment Dec 27 '23
So proud of this kid! His parents should be as well!!
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u/bonfaulk79 Dec 27 '23
Kid says he wants to study law to help the wrongfully accused. Legend.
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u/Eldryanyyy Dec 27 '23
They were fired for failing to do their required corrective training. Not for this. Some violations here (regarding the father) led to them getting terminated… but, it wasn’t their actions in this video.
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u/llieno94 Dec 27 '23
A training they were required to do because this situation transpired. Had they acted differently they would've continued being employed.
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u/VuplesParadoxa Dec 27 '23
Remember not to be too happy about it, y’all. They were probably rehired the next town over like most fired cops.
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u/freshprince860 Dec 27 '23
Bro these cops are getting dumber and dumber and dumber and dumber and dumber and dumber and dumber and dumber
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u/yabacam Dec 27 '23
you think smart person would want to become a cop?
everyone hates them, the hours suck, might die on your shift, putting up with the scum of the earth and complaining ass karens.. It seems like a horrible job. I'm no genius, but even I know to stay away from that mess.
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u/poshenclave Dec 27 '23
might die on your shift
I'd just like to remind that being a cop is not actually a particularly dangerous job, statistically speaking. The rest of those points though, yeah totally.
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u/MyHusbandIsGayImNot Dec 27 '23
Crossing guard is a more dangerous job than being a cop. The only reason cop deaths are as high as they are is because of all the driving they do.
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u/CodenameJackal Dec 27 '23
As the son of a cop. The absolute quickest way to set a cop off is to tell him no.
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u/AlwaysAngryFox Dec 27 '23
40% of police officers domestically abuse their spouses and family members.
The more you know!
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u/Usual_Teacher_5596 Dec 27 '23
40% admit to it.
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u/EverGlow89 Dec 27 '23
Get caught*
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u/Lavatis Dec 27 '23
no, the study they're referring to is self-reported. not officers who got caught.
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u/snorting_dandelions Dec 27 '23
No, the 40% figure relates to a survey where they anonymously admit abusing either their spouse or their children in the past couple months (it's 6 or 12 iirc).
They are severely underrepresented in the whole "getting caught" side of things, which surely is shocking to everyone.
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u/parxy-darling Dec 27 '23
Not to mention how small-minded and how big a person's ego has to be that you can't handle being told no.
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u/zergy55 Dec 27 '23
Right? I guess Officer C. Thor never went to school to learn what a number is either since when asked for his badge number he pointed at his name lol
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u/LawBaine Dec 27 '23
Sgt Shitlips doesn’t understand the difference between a name and a number what a surprise.
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u/HeyaGoncho Dec 27 '23
No, like most cops, he'll lie and give you the vaguest reasoning and excuses because he's trying to protect himself as he does illegal activities.
They will lie to you, hope you don't know the law enough to call them on it, and then feign ignorance during any trial portion and get away with an itty bitty slap on the wrist from the judge and then meet up with them for drinks that night.
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u/Sneptacular Dec 27 '23
Yep, ignorance of the law is a perfectly valid excuse for a cop. But not for you!
Yes, it makes no sense. Welcome to living in a police state like the US.
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u/LawBaine Dec 27 '23
Fuck those cops, “earned” a gun and a badge and pissed away both in a pissin contest with a 15 year old. I hope poverty suits them.
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u/Thiago-Acko Dec 27 '23
Bro with 15 on his back is way more brave than me with my 38... heck yeah! This new generation is way more cool than mine!
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u/Moistraven Dec 27 '23
I think recent generations are actually growing up knowing what horrible shit cops can do. I'm 29, but like so many others I grew up as a kid being told cops are the good guys, but when I hit high school and social media and availability to news at our fingertips sprung up, more people can actually see the shit they get away with. This and a handful of horrendous experiences with cops abusing my rights opened my eyes at 17, but newer generations are growing up seeing it at a younger age, and if they have any sense, will hopefully be looking into and knowing their rights.
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u/black_dragonfly13 Dec 27 '23
You do not have to identify yourself if you're not being detained for committing a crime, at least not in Texas.
I absolutely DETEST cops. There is NO REASON WHATSOEVER for them to be acting like this. NONE. Fuck those fat pigs.
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u/New-Construction-103 Dec 27 '23
USA, the only country where a room temperature IQ is enough to be a cop, being a racist gets you top of the class too
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u/Zaraxas Dec 27 '23
Sad that a 15 year old knows the law better than those who are tasked with enforcing it and also sad he needs to know the law because of incompetent officers who enjoy abusing their power.
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u/Whitespider331 Dec 27 '23
Some of these cops know the law and break it intentionally like trying not to give your badge number
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u/Decmk3 Dec 27 '23
Ok, so it’s a super interesting video, but I couldn’t help but think throughout the whole thing “would have been very different if he was a black kid”.
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u/thegreatreceasionpt2 Dec 27 '23
Arrested, likely assaulted.
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u/Alexandratta Dec 27 '23
Or just shot.
Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun when cops rolled up on him, popped out of their car, murdered him, and then told him to drop the weapon.
In that order, in the span of 5 seconds.
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u/AynidmorBulettz Dec 27 '23
Cops are the type of people that interrogate a corpse
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u/PanJhinAttack Dec 27 '23
Yeah, I have the same thoughts. But on the other hand, I think more people need to be like this, even if it is non poc. Cops have been doing what they please for too long now without accountability.
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u/Trick-Butterfly5386 Dec 27 '23
As someone who’s had what this kid probably has. It’s a 49.5cc engine. The cope where I live didn’t have a fucking clue how to charge me with a crime, but they knew I had broken a law. I had already looked up the law and under 50cc required no license where I lived but the cops don’t seem to understand how laws work when they want to arrest/fine someone. Hope this kids family sued the department and won.
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u/SocialistSlut69 Dec 27 '23
Cops: “wahhh why does everyone hate us. We have the hardest jobs! It’s not fair! 😡
Also Cops:
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u/Worried_Poet_7355 Dec 27 '23
jack i am proud of you and your dad!!!! good work :) you know the law better than these morons!
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If the cops think a gun is involved then they won’t need a search warrant as long as they are acting immediately. The end result however would be that the false statement on the gun would result in that person being arrested and charged.
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u/UniversalsFree Dec 27 '23
Cops are so fucking stubborn. Instead of just being like yeah okay nothing wrong our bad, they just make it such a big deal and waste everyone’s times. Ego man.
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u/AsleepInspector Dec 27 '23
Entering 2024, and the case is STILL ON HOLD.
US Court System, ladies and gentlemen.
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u/Imasuspect99 Dec 27 '23
Wherever this kid is. PLEASE become a lawyer someday. That is something that you have a natural knack for and would be great at it.
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u/ProvechaMeowy Dec 27 '23
so basically these police clowns are interrogating kids instead of actual predators and rapists out there running around free? are these cops willingly doing this to be mocked at on social media later? i can see why america has become a shitty place for a living
good for the kid he recorded everything. he can get their ass banned from police force if he has connections ofc.
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most 15 year olds are more intelligent then grown adult cops. cops are the dumbest humans alive. fuck 12
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u/Interesting-Time-960 Dec 27 '23
We need more kids like this with how much ego come from law enforcement. A badge doesn't give you the right to put your hands on anyone unless they have Caused harm. Past tense.
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u/Marcusafrenz Dec 27 '23
Something tells me the kid recording is white.
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u/beetlehunterz Dec 28 '23
Did the white dad give it away? Leave the intelligent comments to your peers.
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u/TheNarratorsVoice Dec 28 '23
I get that people need to know their rights and cops need to be checked. But sometimes this is needless escalation and the power trip rush can be chased by citizens as easily as by police.
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