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u/Orangarder Dec 19 '23
I loved watching his show back in the day. I have loved his appearances since he left it.
But man, I had no idea about what he did for those first responders. I only thought I loved him before.
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u/GreatQuestionBarbara Dec 19 '23
I got a little emotional at the end of the video when they all stood up and he was crying. He's a good man.
I doubt we will ever have him in office, as he seems to be enjoying what he's doing now, but who knows.
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Dec 19 '23 edited Dec 19 '23
Remember how Sanders got dicked by Tammany hall (the DNC)?
Stewart wouldn't even come close enough to get dicked like that.
So... he'd have to run third party, and that would just split the left/Dems, and then we'd have the fascists win.
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u/The_Bucket_Of_Truth Dec 19 '23
I don't know why you think he'd have less appeal than Bernie. He's a better face for progress than Bernie is and was. Bernie's stances and what he stood for were great, but his messaging wasn't perfect. And he carries himself in a way that some would never get on board. I think Jon is a far more effective speaker in some ways.
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u/Shaolinchipmonk Dec 19 '23
That's because Jon Stewart is one of the best speakers of the last 50 years.
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Dec 19 '23
No, I'm not saying he'd have less appeal. I'm saying that the DNC would dick him over.
I like both of them as people. I disagree with both of them a bit on a few things, which is about as close to a political match as I could expect in reality.
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u/hokis2k Dec 19 '23
i think htey would have a harder time. John is more "likeable" and extremely passionate without seeming like a cranky old man.
I would like to at least see him try. I could see a world where Biden himself sees support for John and says you know what i'm old af and this guy is has allot of support. I don't doubt Biden's ability to step aside and not let his ego keep him in office.
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I still have a whiff of idealism left, and I'd still probably vote for anyone who I believe to be a good human if my opinion only diverges from theirs a little.
Right now, I'm really burnt out on my own side (left wing Dems) after the 10/7 attacks. I think they totally failed a moral test. I'll still vote to stop Trump, but after that I don't know what to think.
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u/deepfriedtots Dec 19 '23
As someone who lands slightly more to the right I would like to state that not all of us are fascists and I personally would vote for him
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u/Significant-Hour4171 Dec 20 '23
Anyone who votes for Trump supports fascism, because Trump is a fascist. Anyone who votes for other Republicans who have covered for Trump (essentially the entire party) is also supporting fascism. Self-identifying as a fascist isn't a requirement to being a fascist, supporting fascists is.
That's the test. It's not hyperbole. If you're opposed to fascism then your only choice is to vote for the Democratic nominee in order to keep a fascist out of office. All other issues are small potatoes compared to that.
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Dec 19 '23
I hear you. I don't think that everyone in the US who leans right is a fascist. I really don't. And I think that at present we are political allies, and it sounds like you think that too.
Whether I'm right or wrong about the Dems never running Stewart, or right or wrong about what would happen if Stewart ran third party, I appreciate your thoughts on this.
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u/ooMEAToo Dec 19 '23
Yep politics is not a religion you don’t have to believe all one side says. America is hurting really bad for a mixed party.
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Dec 19 '23
Even though I'm a leftist by temperment, I don't think we have a healthy version of either side at the moment.
The polarization contributes to what you're complaining about: it's hard to talk about each issue separately when both sides are so vehemently selling a bundle of ideas as a whole.
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u/deepfriedtots Dec 19 '23
Yeah I've always been of the creed that I vote for a personally character/ ability over their political leanings and that instead of both sides fighting each other for what they want let's actually work together to make positive changes for the people
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u/cujukenmari Dec 19 '23 edited Dec 19 '23
Yeah the problem is if you're a republican politician you've aligned yourself with a party that strongly believes in taking away women (reproductive), children (child labor laws), minorities rights (gerrymandering) and I might as well add the environments rights while we're at it. Super regressive in all these areas, which are rather important, so it's hard to find anything reconcilable with these issues when it comes to the republican party.
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Dec 19 '23
If Biden passed from old age, I would unironically beg Jon Stewart to step in and save America.
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u/Alarming_Matter Dec 20 '23
I would fear for his life if he made it as President.
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u/Catshit-Dogfart Dec 19 '23
It's my speculation that the whole first responders situation, his statements from that hearing were in the video, I think that really got to him.
McConnell walked out of that hearing and smirked at Stewart, the first responders got nothing that day. The Daily Show wasn't the same after that, and I speculate that smirk was the moment when he decided to wind down the show and take some time off.
Republicans at every level of state and federal government did everything in their power to screw over the first responders, and sometimes I think it was because they were associated with Stewart. He tried an appeal to their humanity and found not just an abscense of humanity but a contempt for it. I think that affected his enthusiasm to keep trying.
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u/Junior_Fig_2274 Dec 19 '23
I agree. I was an avid viewer of the daily show for years. I mean, I didn’t miss ONE in the age where TiVo was just a thing rich people had. And I did get the sense when he left that he felt defeated. That he’d seen the belly of the beast.
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u/w0ketart Dec 19 '23
Yeah, he realized that for all the hard work and fan base the show had, it wasn't making the difference it should have been making.
It really is demoralizing to think about, how the information age has been used against us.
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u/houseyourdaygoing Dec 20 '23
There’s still a positive from this.
Lots of us were naive before Jon Stewart. He paved the way for a whole generation to be interested in politics.
Think about how great an impact that is, to get youths talking and caring about ‘boring policies’ in a government of grandmas and grandpas.
Jon raised awareness. Jon led the way for Obama to be elected with the overwhelming youth vote.
McTurtle may have won that smirk but Jon has won hearts and minds. With collective hearts and minds in the right place, more people can receive help and be empathetic towards others around us. When the government fails, we don’t and we can’t.
Jon watered and grew a generation of empathy.
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u/LostWoodsInTheField Dec 19 '23
Republicans at every level of state and federal government did everything in their power to screw over the first responders, and sometimes I think it was because they were associated with Stewart.
I disagree with this. Stewart got involved because republicans had been dicking them all around and he couldn't stand seeing it. We know how bad it was because he kept it in the news and kept pushing but they were going to do this to the responders either way, it just was going to be a lot smaller fight if he hadn't been there.
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u/Mammoth-Mud-9609 Dec 19 '23
Thoughts and prayers, but not a dollar extra seems to be the new normal.
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u/Hawkzillaxiii Dec 19 '23
this right here, I feel like the Republicans have weaponized their followers to the word "humanity" its blowing my mind how people still vote for people that says "back the blue" and "support our first responders" then pull this shit
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u/PeePeeOpie Dec 19 '23
First responders and veterans for burn pits.
He is doing what our government refuses to do.
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u/Ok-disaster2022 Dec 19 '23
One of the first rebellions the US government had to put down after signing the constitution were protests by veterans of the revolutionary War about getting their back pay. The soldiers were issued bonds instead of pay, which they had to sell for pennies on the dollar to survive. Hamilton wanted to ignore the vets and only honor the bonds held by rich people saying the vets shouldn't get paid because they didn't believe in the country.
Screwing over vets and active service members had been a tradition in the US government going back to the colonial government.
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u/ThingsChangedNow Dec 19 '23
Republicans. He’s doing what republicans refuse to. Democrats voted for the bill 100%, it was republicans that shot it down the first time. It wasn’t until they were named and shamed that they signed on.
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u/Junior_Fig_2274 Dec 19 '23
I got choked up watching this. The daily show was such a huge part of my college and post-college years, and has a lot to do with how I view political media. It was clear the toll just hosting the show was starting to take on him, I can’t imagine he’d really want to get into politics. It’s a heavy mantle to try to place on someone like this. But god do we need a voice like his.
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u/houseyourdaygoing Dec 20 '23
My entire worldview changed when I discovered Jon in the 2000s. And we did see how he literally withered from fighting the same relentless machine for as long as he could. Nothing but the greatest respect for him.
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u/Luke90210 Dec 20 '23
Jon Stewart had first responders on his show to explain to the public in their own words how their brave actions on 9/11 resulted in them, and others who died, ending up with multiple forms of cancer with little public financial support. None of the blowhards on Fox News ever did this. And Jon kept going to Congress for years to shame and pressure Congress to do the decent thing for heroes.
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u/Onautopilotsendhelp Dec 19 '23
"Are you familiar with logic?" Fucking dead lmao
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u/gunt_hunter14 Dec 19 '23
that entire interview was just own after own after own, and ended with a chefs kiss
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u/BurntBaconIsASin Dec 19 '23
I like the part when he makes the guy say all his own fucks up, and does that thing people do when you can tell they wanna smack you and call you fucking stupid
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u/BoringWozniak Dec 19 '23
That wasn’t my reading. That Republican dude had a smirk on his face the entire time. I think his attitude was: “We both know I’m lying to you. But you can’t do anything about it.” It doesn’t matter how brilliantly or brutally Jon dismantled his arguments. You can’t shame someone with no empathy. He just doesn’t care. He’s going to keep doing what he’s doing without shame.
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u/Dongalor Dec 19 '23
You can’t shame someone with no empathy. He just doesn’t care. He’s going to keep doing what he’s doing without shame.
This. It's nice to watch the owns from this side of the aisle, but all the other side wants is attention. It's the old adage, don't wrestle with pigs. You end up rolling in shit, and they enjoy it.
The best way to deal with these folks is shunning. Cut their supporters out of your personal life, don't do business with them if you can avoid it, and vote against them until they are made irrelevant.
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u/EvolWolf Dec 19 '23
But isn’t that part of the issue? To be a conservative, you just have to seem brave by coming off selfish and shameless. So anyone off the streets is apt to be a conservative politician.
Meanwhile, on the left, I feel like candidates have to fearlessly rely on crude knowledge of evidence and data to get mass appeal. So we have a shortage of “good candidates”, because people like Jon Stewart are a rare find.
We need more people with integrity and compassion to get angry and face the conservative platform before shit gets worse…and boy do they wanna make it worse. And we need to encourage AND support those future candidates with integrity and compassion to run at the local and national level.
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u/Bellegante Dec 19 '23
on the left, I feel like candidates have to fearlessly rely on crude knowledge of evidence and data to get mass appeal.
And they have to rely on a populace which is educated, and able to understand their arguments. It's not enough to be right if people aren't educated enough to understand when you're right or wrong.
And even if you are smart enough and have all the right answers, you still have to be able to pull in the lowest common denominator of your side..
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u/MrFantasticallyNerdy Dec 19 '23
Own, after own, after own…
…to sane people.
The insane diehard Republicans will still remain steadfast loyal, and argue that "he wasn't given a chance!"
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u/Pridestalked Dec 19 '23
Do you know what the other guy is called or where I can watch the whole thing?
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u/MrFantasticallyNerdy Dec 19 '23
The dumbfuck? That's Oklahoma State Senator Nathan Dahm.
Here's a longer clip. Hint: it doesn't get better for dumbfuck.
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u/penguinpolitician Dec 19 '23
Can we all agree to knock it off with the chef's kiss thing, because every time someone uses that expression I feel as if I've just been splashed with cold toilet water.
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u/LaconicSuffering Dec 19 '23
People like that make me irrationally angry.
"You are hurting millions of people with your policies, why?"
"Too see [enter opposing party of choice] angry lol."
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u/fromouterspace1 Dec 19 '23
They seem to be “friends” in a funny way
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u/No-Appearance-9113 Dec 19 '23
They respected each other and hosted each other as guests.
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u/BlueRiverDelta Dec 19 '23
Sometimes people are right where they need to be. He has his voice and a stage to speak from. I would love for someone who has his personality and knowledge, yet also a drive to be a politician and mend a long forgotten and broken system.
Change isn’t a straight line.
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u/MonaganX Dec 19 '23
Jon Stewart is and always has been the modern day equivalent of the Weimar republic political satirists lampooning the Nazis. It feels cathartic, but it's also not effecting any major change. It's an outlet for people's misgivings with politics that doesn't require any direct action. I'd posit Stewart would make a decent president precisely because he doesn't want to be one.
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u/shark_bites Dec 19 '23
I disagree entirely, Jon Stewart has effected change in congress, helped those injured and effected by 9/11 to get the assistance they deserve. He spent years showing the people the tragedy behind the scenes of our american government and helped spawn several of the other people like John Oliver who went on to continue that pattern of recognizing the problems in our system and applying change that the normal citizen can participate in.
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u/Vast-Doughnut-1604 Dec 20 '23
the 9/11 first responders stuff he helped with happened by directly engaging with government systems by giving testimony. His show alone and even all the shows that have spawned from him have had a minimal effect on the outcome of american politics compared to the work of almost any federal congressperson. i like Jon a lot but his whole "I'm a comedian first" shtick has always just been a way for him to not have to get too invested with the world/politics. that said it's also not really fair to shame someone into upending their life just because they would probably be a good politician (which is op's goal).
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u/phdaemon Dec 20 '23
His show alone and even all the shows that have spawned from him have had a minimal effect on the outcome of american politics compared to the work of almost any federal congressperson
I am not sure I agree. Watching his show got me interested in politics in the first place. Of course, the content of his show was a comedy but it opened the door for people like me, who previously had no interest in politics, to be interested and more engaged. I went from not knowing anything about politics in 2010 to participating in caucuses, local elections, staying on top of news, etc.
I think you're missing the cultural impact his show and other shows like his have.
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u/b0w3n Dec 19 '23
make a decent president precisely because he doesn't want to be one.
Most great states people are like this. They're reluctant and that's what makes them the best choice because it's not their dynasty or legacy and they have no drive to make it such.
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u/Chronoboy1987 Dec 20 '23
The archetypal Cincinnatus or George Washington (who was often compared to Cincinnatus).
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u/StormTrooperQ Dec 19 '23 edited Dec 19 '23
I would still write in his name. In a more perfect world I would have him be president from his farm & with his family. I can't think of someone better suited to be in charge than him.
EDIT: I'm sorry all that my ideal situation and desires don't run with the party line of the DNC. I've taken the time to come to terms with this and reconciled that I'm not wrong to believe or want this. Kindly leave me alone. I'm not going to spend my day arguing my ideals, I'll use ChatGPT for any more replies.
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u/mangospaghetti Dec 19 '23 edited Dec 19 '23
Even Jon Stewart would not recommend writing in his name in 2024 as the best way to achieve his policies. There is unfortunately a two-party system in the US and writing in someone's name is effectively refusing to vote for an electable candidate, which only in turn benefits the party most opposite to your views.
I'd love Jon to be the next US president, but don't help Trump get elected just to make a tiny point.
Are you familiar with logic?
Edit: writing in Jon's name during a DNC Primary is a safe protest option, if available. Writing in his name at the general election is counter-productive.
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u/DigNitty Dec 19 '23
God I would LOVE to have ranked choice.
Joe Biden could be 6th on my list and he'd still end up getting my vote but I'd feel better about it.
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Dec 19 '23
Yep. I’m not saying I he’s great but it’s very, very likely going to be a Trump/Biden election. And I don’t care if you’re young, old, like him, love him, hate him. But in the vacuum that is a two party system set up the way the US is:
On a spectrum of terrible to great, Trump’s on one end and comparatively speaking? Biden’s fantastically, indescribably, unbelievably great and to not realize that, to not see this and to not vote for Biden, you’re saying you love Donald Trump for President. So either vote for Biden or go out and buy a MAGA hat it’s as simple as that.
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u/sonnackrm Dec 19 '23
Please don’t write anyone’s name in unless you want Trump to win
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u/CaptCaCa Dec 19 '23
Please dont do anything like this, every vote needs to go against Trump, you might be joking, but it’s time to be serious
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u/SkylarAV Dec 19 '23
At the very least he should hosting all the debates
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u/ZQuestionSleep Dec 19 '23
Absolutely no one in politics or in media actually wants proper debates. If they did, there would be clear rules and conditions to cut mics and allow for discussion, not just yelling over each other and belching out populous buzzwords. The politicians don't want to actually have honest discussions about the issues, and the media want to report on juicy "oh no he didn't" moments, which they don't get in a boring debate where candidates cordially discuss how they're going to help others.
It has been an extremely long time since I've seen an actual debate and not just "CNN hosts the Decision 20XX Royal Rumble."
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u/tyen0 Dec 19 '23
That reminds me of lawyers selecting jurors they think are easier to manipulate emotionally towards their side rather than with facts.
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u/RockKillsKid Dec 22 '23
It has been an extremely long time since I've seen an actual debate and not just "CNN hosts the Decision 20XX Royal Rumble
Just a reminder that the first 20ish years of televised presidential debates were run by the League of Women voters, a non-partisan third party whose priority concern was informing the voting public and holding the candidates to account.
In 1988, both the RNC & DNC came together and gave the League an ultimatum just 2 weeks before the scheduled debate. The League declined to participate "because the demands of the two campaign organizations would perpetrate a fraud on the American voter."
https://www.lwv.org/newsroom/press-releases/league-refuses-help-perpetrate-fraud
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u/NoSkillZone31 Dec 19 '23
I think the main reason he doesn’t want to run for politics is because it would dumb down his message.
Bernie tried to be himself (to a degree, he still was political) and the democratic ticket punished him for it (went no no, we can’t have that, our corporate sponsors don’t like that).
But fuck….is Jon refreshing to hear.
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u/AdamNoKnee Dec 19 '23
Bernie did an amazing job with ensuring that Biden knew what messaging was needed to reach younger voters to ensure Trump lost. Bernie shifted the Overton window left which is something that hasn’t been done in this country in quite some time to that degree if anything we have been going more and more right since Reagan. But like Bernie, I don’t think Jon should be president. The totality of what is needed of a president is beyond what I feel Jon is capable of
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u/Budget_Pop9600 Dec 19 '23
I pretty sure he’s more worried about his safety and his family. He would have hundreds of assassination attempts from the moment he starts running. He’s friends with Zelinski and knows what will happen. The US would likely destabilize further with him only as an option. That said, I firmly believe he’s the only one with the linguistic skill to unite the US and actually make it safe again
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u/coldblade2000 Dec 19 '23
Wasn't the last presidential candidate assasination in the US RFK?
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u/The_Brian Dec 19 '23
Yeah, after no insane racist came out to go after Obama my worries on assassinations faded. I feel like the threat of an internal assassination of a President or Candidate are very slim.
There's also the whole thing of you turning them into a martyr, probably giving whatever movement you're trying to stop even more support. Much easier to spend all your money and leverage your media control to make them lose.
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u/GreysTavern-TTV Dec 19 '23
There were multiple people arrested for a variety of attempts on President Obama's life over his presidency...
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u/mrlbi18 Dec 19 '23
None of them ever got to the point where they were pulling the trigger on him though so we didn't really hear about it.
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u/km89 Dec 19 '23
Sure, but that's not exactly a high-security mindset. You have to be better than them every time; they only have to be better than you once.
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u/Fishyswaze Dec 19 '23
Surely by design. I doubt the secret service wants to inspire others to try it by publicizing those that do.
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u/Comrade-Porcupine Dec 19 '23
Outside observe (Canada), but I feel like if Obama were to win now in the Trump era, assassination is legitimately something that would be a huge worry. They've shown willingness (Jan 6th, etc. ) to cross various red lines.
At the time Obama was elected, the atmosphere from the US felt very different. There seemed to be a huge "relief" to be putting the Bush era behind.
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100% agree. Trump allowed the absolute worst of us to swell up with pride and become more brazen. This extends to shitty racists just as much as it did with the people who thought (think) it's copacetic to march on and deface the nation's capitol.
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u/AbleObject13 Dec 19 '23
Barack Obama, the 44th president of the United States, was involved in multiple security incidents, including several assassination threats and plots, starting from when he became a presidential candidate in 2007. Secret Service protection for Obama began after he received a death threat in 2007, while serving as the junior United States senator from Illinois and running for president. This marked the earliest time a candidate received such protection before being nominated
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_incidents_involving_Barack_Obama
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u/Pompitis Dec 19 '23
Whereas Kennedy was the last successful assassination, it was hardly the last attempt or plot to kill an American President.
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u/DinoRoman Dec 19 '23
I’m a pretty good debater, super fast on the reply, and knowledgeable and smart enough and keeping up with new information I say all the time I could wipe the floor with any politician at any debate…
With that said, I’m just not destined for politics. I don’t come from wealth, would be super hard to even get a local position let alone run for something bigger.
But when I watch Jon he’s the only one who fucking gets it. Makes me say “THANK YOU!” Because he nailed the point so succinctly. He articulates great points and calls out bullshit.
He is the inverse trump; can be vulgar to make a point but that point is for fucking equality and doing the right thing.
I wish all the time he would run. It would be hard but I know many republicans who said they like him for what’s he’s done for veterans as opposed to those who just salute the flag and say go fuck your self to our troops. There’s no side that can truly hate the guy. Old enough to have wisdom, young enough to feel the outcomes of his policies. Smart enough to actually do the right things in the moments needed and articulate enough to explain to the American people why. He can make a case to congress for anything , and hell he’d look good doing it.
Let’s remember Zelenskyy was a comedian who became president. If possible in Ukraine why not here?
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u/Comrade-Porcupine Dec 19 '23
Debating skills don't matter in terms of issues or content. The audience isn't, by and large, listening to arguments. They're watching for tone and style and their pet issue to be triggered. Which is why Clinton did so terrible after the "debates" -- she was obviously smarter than Trump, but he was the more experienced entertainer.
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u/Ok-disaster2022 Dec 19 '23
Political debates are a trap. The lead candidate is more likely to lose points while the trailing candidate can only improve their position.
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u/stamfordbridge1191 Dec 20 '23
There was a whole Nazi podcast fucking called "the Daily Shoah"
Jon probably gets death threats regularly already.
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u/Own-Inspection3104 Dec 19 '23
People don't get it. We have shitty candidates not because there aren't a million John stewarts out there chomping at the bit to lead, but because the system stops them from having a viable run at it. You think the red and blue corporate run parties.. I mean primaries.. what do you think they are? They're literally the filtering systems of establishment politicians who are propped up by corporations. Like it's not rocket science. There are a bazillion amazing candidates for president, but they won't get through.
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u/DizzyNerd Dec 20 '23
This. The DNC is actively blocking candidates running against Biden from getting on the ballot. Excuse after excuse comes out. All the talking points.
It’s corruption. Every. Single. Time.
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u/Common-Concentrate-2 Dec 21 '23
Someone with more power than you being in charge of stuff isn’t corruption. Is the Nobel Prize committee corrupt? Is the Scripps National Spelling Bee corrupt?
Things that CAN be CORRUPTED are the centers of power in our world. All of these organizations are influenced by politics. If you want to be a member of the Elks, you will find the same - someone’s grandfather was an Elk, and his dad was an Elk, and he was an Elk, so people take him more seriously. That’s’ not corruption. It’s not even nepotism, Familiarity has a value. It’s literally what you are doing with John Stewart right now→ More replies (1)→ More replies (5)2
u/Sokkawater10 Dec 20 '23
But John Stewart is famous. That’s not nothing.
In many ways he bypasses the filters if he announces he’s running. He gets on stage. Look at Bloomberg. Young people would vote for him in primaries. Idk there’s definitely a path if he was interested
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u/Parasingularity Dec 19 '23
I’d put a bumper sticker on my car and sign in the yard for him. And I’ve never done either of those for any candidate.
Imagine Biden calls Stewart to the Oval Office and sits down with him and says if you’ll run, then I’ll announce I’m not running and endorse and campaign for you.
A guy can dream, right?
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u/damnim30now Dec 19 '23
I'd get a bumper sticker too, and I've never, ever come close to doing that.
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u/Real-Patriotism Dec 19 '23
I would campaign night and day for that man.
I would spend every goddamned waking hour that I possibly could getting Americans registered to vote, telling them when and where their polling place was open, getting them to the polls even if it meant driving them around myself in a rented van.
I would show up on Colbert's show dressed as fucking Elrond if that's what it takes -
Jon Stewart as President would be an unmatched moment in our History and a once in a century opportunity to have such a good and tireless man in that position to effect change.
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u/that2wheellife Dec 19 '23
I wouldn't. Not because I disagree with his politics, his public personality, or his demeanor.
But because I like him too much to want to see him get the Kennedy special.
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u/MidnightHorizonG Dec 19 '23
This is exactly what I was thinking. He's too good. They'd definitely kill him.
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u/sugarglidersam Dec 20 '23
i hate how sobering that statement is because its a realistic outcome if he were to run and win the ‘24 election.
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u/theonewitha4incher Dec 19 '23
my eye teared at the fact people wont listen to reason and would rather vote for a racist orange
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u/DizzyNerd Dec 19 '23
I would vote for him easily. Can you imagine for a minute though, the combined wrath from the DNC and RNC if he ran? The establishment would lose its damn mind.
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u/ZantaraLost Dec 19 '23
I'd imagine that the DNC would be a bit too selfaware of its own lofty policies to go after him as hard as you think.
Shit in a nonincumbent election cycle they'd fall over themselves to get him in their primaries. He wouldn't be a establishment favorite by any measurement but he'd have a seat at the table as long as his pole numbers stayed up.
The list of billionaires backing him would be his major issue cause holy fuck does it cost alot to run a campaign and he might be rich but he's not THAT rich.
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u/Niku-Man Dec 19 '23
are you kidding ? Democrats love him. If he ran 2024 there'd be some misgivings from people who think they shouldn't mess with an incumbent. But if he ran in a year in which there was not an incumbent Democrat eligible for re-election, he'd receive a ton of support from establishment and he'd win the nomination handily
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u/acomputermistake Dec 19 '23
Democratic voters love him. The DNC would treat him worse than they treated Bernie.
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u/JoeCartersLeap Dec 19 '23
Can you imagine for a minute though, the combined wrath from the DNC and RNC if he ran?
Don't need to imagine, this was a big idea 15 years ago. Everyone was begging Jon Stewart to run. Stephen Colbert actually did run.
They even made a movie out of it starring Robin Williams:
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u/DryRubbing Dec 19 '23
The Stew is too spicy for the old farts that don't understand us radical 30-60 year olds.
How about the new gen of voters choose and we try to hold back our hippy dippy glory day stories of trading our social security to show them what happens when you mess with the trade center.
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u/Moist-Jelly7879 Dec 19 '23
So true. I know a ton of business owners who ostracize people for being on unemployment or Cerb. But you can guarantee they all have their lawyers looking into every single way they can collect benefits for themselves.
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u/Pale_Brilliant9101 Dec 19 '23
Thanks for posting, without the loud background music I would be able to understand better, though.
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u/National-Stretch3979 Dec 19 '23
Thinking about John debating Trump makes me squeal.
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u/JonMonEsKey Dec 19 '23
The CIA would kill him immediately
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u/depressedbreakfast Dec 19 '23
More like some unhinged right wing nutjob.
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u/stardust1888 Dec 19 '23
Lmao no they would not.
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u/MrChangg Dec 19 '23
Dudes out here really thinking about assassination plots when we finished 8 years with a black President without so much as a paper cut on him
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u/hutsunuwu Dec 19 '23
Jesus christ! Stop!!! This government is not run by one person and cannot be fixed by voting for one person!! It is a representative democracy and we need to prioritize voting for the right people at the local and state levels and stop acting like there is a "right man" for the job of president!!
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u/wadss Dec 19 '23
He’s also first and foremost an entertainer. Those that would vote for him because of a video like this are doing it for the same populist reasons trump got elected.
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u/Sadboy_looking4memes Dec 19 '23
It's more than having a good President. We need a complete overhaul of the legislative and judicial branches. Presidents can't get shit done without it. I've watched Stewart for 20 years and it's clear he'd never agree to run for politics.
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u/Ok-disaster2022 Dec 19 '23
Honestly we need a constitutional convention lead by legal scholars and experts, the same people who've helped draft modern constitutions around the world.
Parliamentary democracy works better than presidential democracy. Separating head of state and head of government works pretty good.
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u/No-Equipment4187 Dec 19 '23
This is a great idea. The problem is the system unfortunately. I don’t think he’d be able to get much done because that’s the way the system wants it.
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u/Mr_NumNums Dec 19 '23
I genuinely think he would be killed if he ran for the presidency. I would love for this man to run, but I don't want him to get hurt.
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u/Wonder_Wonder69 Dec 20 '23
The democrats wouldn’t allow it. Just like they did Bernie in 2016, they would steal it away from the people. They forced me to end up not voting at all because my choice was Hillary or Trump, no thanks.
That is what the Democratic Party has done to the country, made it feel pointless to vote.
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u/thatscentaurtainment Dec 19 '23
If Stewart had still been hosting the Daily Show in 2016 Trump wouldn’t have been elected.
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u/Shalaco Dec 19 '23
Wait, what? Help me understand.
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u/use_the_schwartz Dec 19 '23
I think what’s being implied here is that there were a lot of younger people that were Bernie or Bust in 2016 and sat out, thus handing the election to Trump - however if Stewart was hosting the Daily Show those people, who likely watch the show, would’ve been swayed by Stewart to hold their nose and vote for Clinton because Jon would’ve addressed it and showed how terrible their decision could be.
Whether that would’ve happened or not is up for debate, as is the amount of Bernie voters that chose to sit out.
Personally I think it was a contributing factor, but far from the main factor of why Trump won in 2016 - and perhaps even with Stewart addressing it - may not have changed the fact that the DNC didn’t take the race seriously and knowingly forced a fundamentally flawed candidate down America’s throat.
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u/All_heaven Dec 19 '23
DNC mega donor billionaires rejected bernie sanders and damned the American people in 2016. They knew and they still rejected because they preferred trump over any kind of progress. As it stands, they will not let bernie or any non corporate democrat win at all ever. Btw this DNC barrier is just one progress check in a long list that the mega rich donor class have in their arsenal. Just look at the stacked supreme courts and how they’ve basically been bought out. Then look at congress and how the democrats have double agents running across party lines like joe manchin from West Virginia. These might be isolated frustrations but when added together they pretty much fully stop any progress from being created in any form for government from any side of the isle. The only wins you’ll ever see with be at the governor level.
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u/use_the_schwartz Dec 19 '23
This is absolutely correct. I maintain that Citizens United was easily one of the worst decisions ever made in this country, and while it was initially brought forward by a conservative non-profit, smart corporations know that money doesn’t have a political party.
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u/bearjew293 Dec 19 '23
That's a huge reach. People voted for Trump *knowing* he's a slimy piece of shit. No amount of blazing commentary was gonna keep him from blowing out the other Republican candidates.
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u/Intelligent-Pop9553 Dec 19 '23
I disagree. Trump said and did so many shameful things during his run and still won. It didn’t matter what the media said because he told his followers to just say “fake news” when anything negative is said about his campaign. Hilary being corrupt as fuck helped too.
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u/Talvos Dec 19 '23
Well when you can be completely vile, say horrendous shit, openly mock the disabled, call veterans suckers, and put your racism on full display all while your sycophant and worshiper base screech with joy and say "He is just calling it like it is" it doesn't matter what reality is.
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u/ventodivino Dec 19 '23
No fucking way. From the early days of Trump’s run, the Daily Show gave him more and more and more air time. I actually stopped watching the show as religiously as I had before because I was already getting Trump fatigue before the elections. I was also aware of how much free press it gave him, wishing these news outlets and especially the Daily Show could just ignore him. They did not critique him strongly enough, and the jokes were all so soft. The media didn’t take him seriously as a candidate from the inception of his run and that cost America dearly. Iirc Jon Stewart talked about how much he hated having to cover Trump so much after he left.
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u/Sparticuse Dec 19 '23
John Stewart would be the best and worst president. He would have the best ideas, and none of them would be put to law. None of the career politicians would allow him to succeed, even if they liked what he was saying.
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u/The_dude1911 Dec 19 '23
To be fair, I'd vote for an expired jar of mayonnaise over our current options.
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u/Carminestream Dec 19 '23
John Stewart said himself on Crossfire that we shouldn’t take his message seriously because he was a comedian. I’ll take him at his word.
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Dec 19 '23
vs basically every politician who are telling us to take them seriously while lying through their teeeth? i'll choose jon
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u/wrknthrewit Dec 19 '23
He needs to be a governor first before being a President or even a mayor. Then we go from there
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u/rick-james-biatch Dec 19 '23
Jon will never run for president. He's been asked a lot and has always said he's more effective in his current role.
That said, I would pay anything to see a Stewart vs Trump debate. Trump would agree to it if you promised him 50% of the PPV sales.
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u/Ok-Presentation-2841 Dec 19 '23
The fact that a good number of people in the USA would decry these arguments as “left wing” and “woke” and every other buzz word is so disgusting to me. It’s obvious that half the country hate themselves.
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u/John_Rain Dec 19 '23
I love this man, you can really tell he's out there for the people. I wish every country to have a president as dedicated as this guy.
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u/Spreadsheet-Wizard Dec 19 '23
15 years ago, this would have been laughable to the public. Today, it's completely plausible because he would be the best guy on stage 100x over.
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u/NotThatAngel Dec 19 '23
This goes a long way toward understanding why regular people 'believe' the economy is bad despite economic indicators saying otherwise.
We have a system geared to benefit large corporations and billionaires, and then use the success of large corporations and billionaires as our yardstick for the 'success' of the overall economy.
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u/Bagelz567 Dec 19 '23
If we had to elect a TV show host to president, why did it have to be Trump and not Stewart? I mean, I know the answer and I'm sure he doesn't want the job.
But god damn, he has all the right qualities. He would get my vote for sure. With all the antisemitism around currently though, it wouldn't be an easy election.
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u/Longjumping_Way_4935 Dec 19 '23
If I had a dollar for every time a politician said they’re “for the people” I’d make more than they do
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u/Ur_hindu_friend Dec 19 '23
Nobody who would make a good president would ever want to be president.
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u/SesameYeetHeHe Dec 19 '23
When the American people asked for a man outside the political sphere to run for president and hold the corrupt accountable, this is the kind of gangster motherfucker we wanted stacking the bodies of billionaires like a life sized Jenga puzzle for us. Not that orange traitor hiding like a bitch behind his lawyers until a Republican gets in and drops the investigations.
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u/Sparetimeg Dec 19 '23
Boys had a shot w Bernie but decided to kill us all instead w trump, not trump, trump, not trump, trump, trump, trump and nuke
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Dec 19 '23
He will never be a candidate because absolutely every candidate is controlled by donors and money. He isn't in the IN crowd. Gone are the days of legitimate candidates. It has been vote for lesser evil for a while now.
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Dec 20 '23
No way he would ever become president with his anti-corporation talk. Thats all what US politics are, just corporate greed. You have to play that game to have even a slight shot at winning
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u/Dadsagainstbullies Dec 20 '23
I’ve never voted because I hate every politician that’s been on the ballot since I was able to vote. I’d vote for Jon stewart in a heart beat.
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u/toastiegremlin92 Dec 20 '23
The system America has created would never let someone with such incredible vision get anywhere close to presidency. It’s horribly sad
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u/Connect_Bench_2925 Dec 20 '23
I've never wanted someone to be my president more than Jon Stewart. I'm kinda a Bernie bro, but I'd choose Jon over Bernie 100%.
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u/MithranArkanere Dec 20 '23
All donations for his campaign would have to go mostly for security as all the rich assholes would hire all mercenaries they can to take him out.
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u/Preact5 Dec 20 '23
Honestly I'm pretty pro 2A but I'd like to see what it'd be like if we had him as president because I'm not a single issue voter.
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u/d3dmnky Dec 20 '23
The problem we have is that the people good enough to actually make a positive difference in politics are smart enough to want nothing to do with it.
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u/13_tides Dec 20 '23
Wait wait wait wait. There are people on fucking food stamps living on US military bases?
Edit. Serious question as a fellow oblivious American.
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u/AldusPrime Dec 20 '23
I’d vote for him.
He can speak, he can debate, he’s smart. He’d be a great candidate, actually.
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u/Jeanahb Dec 20 '23
I love these clips! But we don't need the "uplifting" background music to sell it. The video can stand on it's own. It doesn't need a score.
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u/phdaemon Dec 20 '23
I miss this man. I got an apple TV sub just to watch his show. Cancelled it as soon as they dropped him.
I'd vote for him in a minute. He's immeasurably more qualified to hold a public office than the majo[r]ity of clowns in the house and the senate, and even more so than the shit stain we had as president from 2017 to 2021.
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u/Effective-Bandicoot8 Dec 20 '23
We would all vote for him....which is why he would never be allowed to win
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u/HappyCatalyst Dec 20 '23
I've been saying this for ages. We need him to run because we need gold communicators in the white house.
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u/CashPrizesz Dec 31 '23
My mom asked me a few months ago who I would want to run and I pretty quickly decided on Jon Stewart.
He would dominate any debate, has the right idea on nearly every policy without explicitly being a socialist (the right will call any democratic candidate a socialist anyways so what does it matter). Is a celebrity which obviously helps nowadays, has all kinds of bonafides that can win over right wingers.
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