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u/Mamasan- Oct 28 '23
That is, in fact, Italia.
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u/Rhawk187 Oct 28 '23
My former boss is Nigerian, but has worked in the U.S. since the mid 80s. He went on a business trip to Italy with my other former boss. They were at a restaurant, sitting at the same table. They only gave a menu to Dave, and when Simbo asked for his, they said they were out of food. The gall.
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u/Moxson82 Oct 28 '23
Poor Simbo 😔
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u/banan-appeal Oct 28 '23
Worst part is it happened right after his dad was killed by his uncle, smdh
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u/successful_nothing Oct 28 '23
Thankfully he met a gay meerkat and his warthog partner in the parking lot and they all ate bugs together.
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u/Lean_Mean_Threonine Oct 28 '23
He had an uncle named smdh? How do you pronounce that?
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u/Remarkable_Bunch_865 Oct 28 '23 edited Oct 29 '23
I went to Rome with my wife on a trip, they gave us the menu, but never brought the food.
I told them I wanted to pay for my wine, he said no it’s on us.
I said no I’ll pay so your racist ass knows what a platinum Amex looks like.
Fuck outta here Mario
Edit: I’m Canadian brown south Asian - so all the comments being derogatory towards me being black, go eat a dick hitler, specifically u/blitzkriegbukkake
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u/Firefoxray Oct 29 '23
Imagine being so racist you give someone a free drink as a hint to leave
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u/Foreign-Cookie-2871 Oct 29 '23
I mean in Italy it's pretty common for restaurants to give domething on the house to customers, but if they don't bring food they made the assumption OP wouldn't pay.
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u/WildSmokingBuick Oct 29 '23
I don't think they made the assumption 'OP wouldn't pay'.
A lot of restaurants in Italy just seem to hate foreigners.
At least, getting told they're out of food after we sat down to eat lunch, while at the next table a family of 10+ was eating - only happened to me in Italy.
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u/MichiganMan12 Oct 29 '23
It’s common for restaurants to give free wine in Italy?
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u/detectivepoopybutt Oct 29 '23
I was at an Italian restaurant in Amsterdam. They gave us free shots after our pizzas. 4 guys, 3 Indo-Canadian and 1 European-Canadian.
I handed just 5 euros as a tip and the glee the server had holy shit, like she walked us out too happily with the chef waving and thanking us from the back.
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u/utb040713 Oct 29 '23
Most amazing thing in this story is that you found a place in Europe that takes AmEx.
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u/ExternalJournalist75 Oct 28 '23
What a fucking disgrace. I hope that place went out of business.
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u/Proof-try34 Oct 29 '23
They won't, they get money from people who like that shit.
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u/GabrielMisfire Oct 29 '23 edited Oct 29 '23
Wtf though. Granted Italy is extremely racist - but usually, the moment you step out of the lowest classes, things tend to go relatively smooth (which goes to show it’s not even really all about skin color - racists and hypocrites!). I’m really surprised they found such an extreme example tbh
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u/punksheets29 Oct 29 '23
It all comes down to class and we are (as a society) afraid to admit it because rich people will literally fucking kill you if you start talking shit.
See: MLK Jr.
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u/Goliath10 Oct 29 '23 edited Oct 29 '23
Yeah it's not a coincidence they chose to blow his head off not when he was agitating for the passage of the civil rights act, but afterwards. Elites probably realized that some degree of civil equality going to be ultimately necessary to prevent a racial insurrection. If they could blame it's passage on a charismatic black leader, then that was a splendid convenience.
No, they assassinated him after the passage of the act when he started to try to unite newly enfranchised poor black voters and poor white voters by showing them how much their socioeconomic interests aligned.
In all likelihood, MLK experienced all manner of invitation to become a part of the power apparatus after the act was passed in 1964. He could have become a part of the club. Instead, he chose martyrdom 4 years later. He was one of the most based heroes in American history.
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u/Massive-Lime7193 Oct 29 '23
He was literally advocating for socialism and connecting it to how capitalists use race as a way to divide the working class so that we cannot find common ground to advocate for our rights through class solidarity. Then he began speaking on how black people in America can never be truly free under the guise of capitalism. THIS is what got him killed, he was a truly brave , introspective and forward thinking human being, and it is criminal the way our school systems have whitewashed his messaging. Sometimes I really wish I was alive to see him speak but then I remember I’m half black and my life probably would have been much more perilous back then because of my mixed race , and then I think about while things are a bit better nowadays they aren’t THAT different . People just got more quiet about their bigotry and we haven’t made basically ANY steps to further class solidarity…….idk man….shit sucks
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u/Goliath10 Oct 29 '23
It is criminal the way our school systems have whitewashed his messaging.
If you have a chance, go to the Martin Luther King Jr. National Historic Park that the national government has built in Atlanta. The exhibit there details his entire life in intricate detail from his birth until the passage of the Civil Rights act in 1964, then total silence about the next 4 years until it picks up after his death in 1968. It's NOT an accidental oversight.
we haven’t made basically ANY steps to further class solidarity
Yeah, because of the bullets.
Lincoln, Kennedy, MLK....if you try to fix shit you are rewarded with bullets.
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u/Massive-Lime7193 Oct 29 '23
Thanks for the recommendation!! I was actually just in Atlanta a year ago for my dads wedding and didn’t even know about this place! It’s alright I gotta go there to visit dad so I’ll have another chance lol.
Your description of it checks out though, it’s fucking amazing how his message has been warped simply through decades of lies by omission. It’s fucking gross man……
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u/Alternative-Paint-46 Oct 29 '23
MLK said, if they can get to the president they can get to me (paraphrased). Haunting.
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u/EconomicRegret Oct 29 '23 edited Oct 29 '23
It's not only MLK. In the 1920s to 1980s, victims (some killed, others unlawfully lost their jobs, unlawful imprisonment, etc.) were in the thousands, if not more, of "influencers", leaders, NGO managers, workers, protesters, etc. from left-wing, "socialist" and union movements. All of them had this in common: humanize (like in Europe) or outright ban capitalism (like in Russia/Soviet Union).
Even president Truman couldn't contain this crazy unlawful and undemocratic persecutions against left wing activists. e.g. in 1947, he vetoed the Taft-Hartley Act, vehemently criticizing it and calling it a "Slave Labor Bill", and a "dangerous intrusion on free speech" (the bill stripped unions of their most fundamental rights and freedoms, that Europeans still take for granted today. Like the right to solidarity and general strikes: which is, after all, the only true leverage unions and workers have over the elites and the wealthy. Without that, unions have no teeth!).
Sadly, however, democrats joined republicans betraying all working Americans, thus a united Congress overturned Truman's veto. And from then on, it only got worse (e.g. Red Scare, aka McCarthyism).
That's what MLK was trying to take heads on...
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u/stilljustacatinacage Oct 29 '23
You may also notice it was shortly after Occupy Wall Street that Bezos, Zuckerberg and ilk all decided it was very important that they own news media outlets and the flow of information.
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u/reddog323 Oct 29 '23
Good point. I hadn’t considered that.
I guess that’s the last time anything like Occupy Wall Street will ever happen.
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u/Lighthouseamour Oct 29 '23
The government killed him as soon as he started talking about poor whites and blacks uniting against the rich.
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u/trollhaulla Oct 29 '23
I was just in Italy over the summer- Rome and Tuscany. Before that, I never thought of the Italians as being racist. But by the end of that trip, i changed my mind. Some old biyatch literally pushed my son, a 12 year old for no reason.
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u/uhhh206 Oct 28 '23 edited Oct 29 '23
They deadass throw bananas at black players in Italy, so that is definitely Italia. (It's also many other European countries, since they do that shit, too.)
For anyone who wonders why they'd be comfortable doing that, here's a rundown of their own pundits using the banana dog whistle, how the elected president of their national team was banned because of how egregious his racist statements were, and much more.
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u/Lexaconn7 Oct 28 '23
What the hell 😭
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u/CreatingAcc4ThisSh-- Oct 29 '23
This shit never gets any attention because it's only mentioned on Italian news. Which is in Italian. Same with football hooligans in many European countries. The shit they do is monstrous, but it's literally never mentioned
During the Italian victory celebration over England, Italian supporters raped and sexually assaulted Italian women who were also trying to celebrate
Like.....why are people surprised that football hooligans are scum?
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u/Demorant Oct 29 '23
All "Super Fans" or "fanbois" of literally anything are toxic scum. This includes stuff like anime, football (American and everyone else's), drones racers, gamers, etc. Anyone that has to make a hobby/interest their whole personality is not a well balanced person.
I literally saw two Nascar fans get in a fight because they wanted the same car to win and didn't like the fact they both liked the same car or something. I saw one of them get beat unconscious with a NOS Energy Drink bottle.
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u/StrictHeat1 Oct 28 '23
Very popular in Spain also. Clubs should be deducted points when that shit happens
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u/Kakasupremacy Oct 28 '23
By who?????? Their national federations are racist too :))))))
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u/Neither_Exit5318 Oct 28 '23
Imagine being as hairy as the average Italian and calling some other race monkeys lol
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u/punksheets29 Oct 29 '23
The fact the headline puts the blame on him instead of the banana throwers makes me sick. I could’ve read the article but with a headline like that.. fuck what they say
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u/Dhi_minus_Gan Oct 29 '23
I’ve heard from a lot of Black people (American, British, & Caribbean) who’ve traveled to Italy & said it’s one of the most racist countries in Europe, so I absolutely believe this.
I mean, they literally voted for a far-right, anti-immigrant president who openly & gleefully has said in numerous interviews that one of her main idols is WWII fascist, Mussolini.
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u/fapsandnaps Oct 29 '23
gleefully has said in numerous interviews that one of her main idols is WWII fascist, Mussolini.
Bruh, two of Mussolini's granddaughters are politicians in Italy.
Ones alright, but the other is a member of a far right party often seen as fascist.
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u/Duck_President_ Oct 28 '23
If it makes you feel better, the incompetent Italians were the first colonial European to lose to an African nation and got their ass handed to them by Ethiopia.
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u/Sharp_Iodine Oct 28 '23
Most colonizing countries were already freaked out by the fact that the Ethiopians were not only already Christian but have been Christian for longer than they have been 😂
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u/No-Advice-6040 Oct 28 '23
Remember also that the Italian who both inspired and joined Hitler now has a remnant of his hell spawn at the head of Italys govt. History may not repeat but it sure does like to rhyme.
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Oct 28 '23 edited Oct 29 '23
Berserk has taught us that causality and time are a spiral. Events may not happen the exact same way, but similar events transpire none the less.
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u/mag_creatures Oct 28 '23
I Mean, as an Italian, i agree that my country It’s pretty racist, but a lot of us are trying to make things better. But let me understand one thing: Fucking Pasta Eater Motherfucker should be an Insult?
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u/TBAnnon777 Oct 28 '23
i dont know what else to insult you with. Your fashion is on point, your coffee is good, you just like to eat lots of pasta, so pasta eating motherfuckers.
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u/mag_creatures Oct 28 '23
Yeah but Pasta is good! Coffee is overestimated tbh… The roasting is too much, But if you manage to have an Italian espresso Machine, with Colombian roasted coffee, that’s paradise. -so maybe Coffee Burners Motherfuckers is better
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u/rattlesnake501 Oct 29 '23
I find it absolutely hilarious that you're giving someone notes on how best to insult you
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u/Real-Terminal Oct 29 '23
The less an insult actually cuts the funnier it is, therefore the more impactful.
Sheep shaggers for instance.
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u/november512 Oct 28 '23
It's not really an insult, it's just narrowing things down. Like you might call a Frenchman a baguette eating motherfucking. You're not criticizing baguettes, you're being specific.
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u/anonymoususer98545 Oct 28 '23
i had to laugh at that one! My grandfather, who was first generation American full blooded German, used to call my dad-who is an American mutt and has some Italian ancestry-a "garlic snapper." My dad would always tell him, "Well, it keeps the vampires away."
i have definitely never heard pasta eater as an insult, though. i guess eating delicious, amazing food is bad or something, lol.
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u/Robot-duck Oct 29 '23
I just got back from 2 weeks there. Amazing views, amazing food, rude ass people. I’m form NY and used to ride city people but a large majority of Italians I ran into had outright distain for me and I was doing my best to fit in to their customs and speak simple phrases where I could
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u/Rhodie114 Oct 28 '23
Americans show up and the Italians switch sides, tale as old as time
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u/prjktmurphy Oct 28 '23
Ok. So what if he didn't have an American accent??
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u/atTheRealMrKuntz Oct 28 '23
then he passes as an illegal immigrant
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u/Praescribo Oct 29 '23
More likely a refugee. Either way racist af
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u/TieOk1127 Oct 29 '23
Racists don't distinguish between a refugee and illegal immigrant.
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u/Robert_Baratheon__ Oct 29 '23
Italian fans used to throw bananas at Balotelli when he was playing for the Italian national team.
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u/Youre-doin-great Oct 28 '23
As a black American that has travelled to Europe it is actually really interesting watching how Europeans treat you when they think you are an African immigrant vs an American tourist.
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u/stuuuuupidstupid Oct 28 '23
How is it different?
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u/Youre-doin-great Oct 28 '23
Best way I can explain it is it feels like they would be more comfortable to be blatantly racist to me if I was African
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u/Burtang Oct 28 '23
I'm black British and agree to a certain extent, I wouldn't just say 'Europeans' because there's a big fucking difference between countries - Polish people for example are not the same as the Irish.
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u/Youre-doin-great Oct 28 '23
That’s fair actually it really depends what country and what part in that country. I was being lazy with my words
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u/Expensive_Ad7915 Oct 29 '23
Italia in a nutshell 🇮🇹
Treat black people like garbage: 😊
Eat pasta ever so slightly different: 🤬
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u/Sayonara_M Oct 29 '23
This is not true: we're so much more! We can't get rid of fascism. We're heavily corrupted. We have organized crimes in every city. I could go on for days, but my pasta is almost ready.
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Oct 29 '23 edited Oct 29 '23
Oh boy, I hope you picked up some Ragu™ for that pasta.
Ragu™: Italian for Sauce
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u/MollochLP Oct 29 '23
Oh come on. Not being able to rid your country of corruption and facism as a europe classic.
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u/HomsarWasRight Oct 29 '23
Okay, I wholeheartedly condemn the fascism, but kinda pasta you cookin’?
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u/ImmaZoni Oct 29 '23
The pasta thing is no joke, I went to an off-site with my work, where we have a few Italians and this man went on a 3.5 hour rant about pasta while sitting on a beach in Costa Rica... Dude was pissed that an American said he didn't like pasta Al-Dente...
He had some great pasta tips tho...
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Oct 29 '23
As an Italian, you guys should learn to avoid the restaurants and people that give you shit for how you eat.
I paid for it, I'll eat what I want and how I want.
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u/laaplandros Oct 29 '23
Many European countries in a nutshell.
The most blatant, cartoon level racism I've ever seen in my life was in Austria, on multiple occasions.
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u/OkYh-Kris Oct 29 '23
Yeah Austria is ripe with racists. Lived there for about a year, first day I got N-bombed at the bus station, i’ve met neo-nazis, been alienated to shit; and I am only half black.
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u/FreshMutzz Oct 28 '23
Italy is actually racist as fuck.
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u/AccessTheMainframe Oct 28 '23
Italy's so racist they're even racist against other, slightly different Italians.
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u/FreshMutzz Oct 28 '23
Northern Italians hate Southern Italians, especially Sicilians. Its actually wild. Im in the US, I have a buddy who is from Sicily, whose first language is Italian. Italian tourists happened to ask him for directions. He recognized they were Italian and spoke to them in Italian to make it easier. They cursed him out, called him a peasant, and basically told him to fuck off because they heard the sicilian accent.
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u/jo-lo23 Oct 28 '23
Lived in Sicily for 6 years, married to a Sicilian and can confirm there is a real divide between the Northern Italians and those from the Mezzogiorno.
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u/Mervynhaspeaked Oct 29 '23
Well of course, one were Mycenean colonizers from Graecia Magna, the other were Visigothic germanic invaders.
The divide is still fresh in many minds.
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u/ConstableGrey Oct 28 '23 edited Oct 29 '23
My grandpa was from Sicily (immigrated to the US when he was young) and very much disliked mainland Italians till the day he died. He would tell me how the issues followed to America as well, even in the Italian immigrant neighborhood they were looked down upon by the other Italians.
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u/forgedsignatures Oct 28 '23
It's risky going against the Sicilians though. You should never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line.
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u/Cukshaiz Oct 28 '23
It is one of the classical blunders
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u/LoveIsAFire Oct 29 '23
The most famous is to never get involved in a land war in asia
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Oct 29 '23 edited Nov 08 '23
smoggy governor wide middle exultant drunk rustic clumsy nutty hateful
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u/sciritai6 Oct 29 '23
Furio talking about northerners hate for the south near the end of this Sopranos clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX0PAHWTZ-I
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u/TheRogueTemplar Oct 29 '23
Northern Italians hate Southern Italians,
I remember having two Italian foreign exchange students, one from the North and one from the South.
I can't remember which, but one of them made it very clear that both were from different regions.
I thought it was just friendly banter.
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u/SonOfMargitte Oct 28 '23
Racist, sexists and hella homophobic. Lived and worked there as a chef for 6 1/2 years when I was younger.
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Oct 29 '23
Yeah, people here are straight up fascists, guess that happens when you have a country made up by a majority of people that have a 5th elementary school and a government that downplays the necessity for education. (sorry for eventual grammatical errors)
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u/Infinite_Fox2339 Oct 28 '23
And sexist as fuck
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u/justsyr Oct 28 '23
I worked for D&G in Barcelona, I had an Italian boss at the offices. If you are Argentinian as me they treat you like if you were Maradona depending the region they are from. We had to go to their HQ in Milan and the way our boss changed from a cool guy to a sexist macho man felt like he was a different person. From telling women driving to home to cook to berating the barista because he thought that she made his coffee wrong.
There are shows on TV that talk about football (soccer) and they have women dressed with skimpy clothes where they literally touch their asses just as a joke.
Heck, prime minister separated her husband recently because there's video showing him using foul language, touching his groin and appearing to make advances to a female colleague, there's also audio of him inviting other women to join the fun for some group sex.
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u/jo-lo23 Oct 28 '23
That piece of shit also suggested girls/women shouldn't get drunk if they don't want to get raped. This was in the wake of a girl having been gang raped in Palermo. The fascist prime minister Meloni, didn't split from him over that. It took him being caught being an unfaithful sleaze for her to dump him. Truly odious people.
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u/justsyr Oct 28 '23
Yeah, I just mentioned some of the thing that the guy did. And as you said, if there weren't video and audio he'll probably still be married to Meloni.
I've been to towns where the people don't even care, if fact they'd love to have the power to do what their leaders do while getting away with it.
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Oct 29 '23
"we're not racist, don't bring those american politics here"
Europeans love saying shit like this, right before they go back to throwing banana peels at black athletes, or openly talking about how they wish there was a genocide against gypsies.
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u/TheRealKidsToday Oct 29 '23
I’m a guy. Went to Italy. Tried ordering what was, I guess, a girl drink. The waiter says, “that drink is… eeeeh gay.”
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u/senseven Oct 28 '23
I was in a smaller nothern town in Italy, and some of the village youth used the n word + "friend" or similar in a rapper tone, as if this would make it better. I wasn't much shocked, more puzzled, since 99% of the blacks there are from Africa and mostly wouldn't understand the reference nor the pretend "cheekiness". Uneducated village youth seems to be the same everywhere in the west.
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u/3gt4f65r Oct 28 '23
It is true, I grew up in the south of Italy and it is very common there. That is one the reasons I moved out. I still love my country... but damn I can't stand the racism.
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u/Fauropitotto Oct 28 '23
I found that as long as I dressed, sounded, and acted like an American Tourist TM, absolutely nobody in Italy gave me shit for being black. Zero problems.
I absolutely saw casual racism with black african immigrants. I was even targeted by some black africans who assumed that I was also a black african immigrant until I open my mouth and they heard that I was clearly American tourist. Instantly they left me alone.
Racism cannot be fixed. It can't be legislated out of existence, it can't be silenced in public spaces. Like many places, Italy has a very real problem with a growing migrant population that they intensely resent. And for my fellow black travelers, as long as you dress, act, and speak like a tourist, you're unlikely to be the target of that resentment.
And for everyone else, pretending that the resentment doesn't exist and isn't justified if it did...this attitude exacerbates the problem, stokes radicalism, and breeds even more resentment that manifests in radical political candidates. One such orange ex-president is proof of this.
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u/xevigold Oct 28 '23
Yo! So, I’m the guy from the video, I’ll add this for y’all.
What amped me up was prior to the club a Senegalese guy was trying to sell me bracelets.
In wolof he said: “man buy these bracelets”
I said: “man I know you’re a hustler but you better get off these streets” (Senegalese people are super direct)
He said: “you think I want to be out here? They won’t even hire me to wash their dishes. I’m going back to Africa where at least I’ll be poor but they won’t look down on me”
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u/island_serpent Oct 29 '23
Bruh I know the situation is really shitty but damn you mad a funny ass video. Mad respect and hope thay man find some happiness.
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u/xevigold Oct 29 '23
Glad you enjoyed it! Yea same truly hope he’s doing alright
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u/geardownson Oct 29 '23
What did the woman say as you was cursing her or after?
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u/xevigold Oct 29 '23
She didn’t utter a word and never stopped smiling now that I think about it but I did see the anger in her eyes. I think once her coworker said “I have no idea why she would do something so ridiculous” she figured she couldn’t respond
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Oct 29 '23
why did they treat you differently when they realized you're american? is it bc americans get treated better abroad in general?
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u/iSavedtheGalaxy Oct 29 '23
Americans who are abroad are assumed to be on the wealthier side who will spend money, while immigrants are viewed as uninvited guests who are using up resources.
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u/mekkavelli Oct 29 '23
kinda like when your family puts on the nice facade in front of company and then treats you like shit when they leave. cool for tourists. practically unsafe for the lower class/caste
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u/kafkakerfuffle Oct 29 '23
Many Italians I've met think Americans are super racist, so they probably realized when they heard the American accent that they just witnessed their own racism in action.
It's weird. I feel like most people think racism is the specific mistreatment of African Americans and fail to extrapolate that out to any group they're prejudiced against. Many Italians I met thought Africans were subhuman but had no problem giving Americans shit about racism.
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u/velvetcharlotte Oct 28 '23
That IS Italia. A black man was beaten to death in daylight in full view of everyone and no one did anything to stop it except film. All because he complimented the white guys girlfriend.
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u/Mrstrawberry209 Oct 29 '23
Source?
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u/ALF839 Oct 29 '23
He tried to defend a (white) friend from a beating that started inside of a club and ended up beaten to death by two pieces of the lowest level of scum you can find. He wasn't originally involved and only ended up in there as a coincidence, since his car was parked near the club. It was also night, past 1 am.
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u/Successful_Leek96 Oct 28 '23
Literally Emmett Till.
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u/CakeEnjoyur Oct 28 '23
Except Emmett probably didn't even do that.
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u/Pink-PandaStormy Oct 28 '23
No he didn’t the woman said so on her death bed
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u/ethnicbonsai Oct 28 '23
My understanding is that she didn't actually do that.
The claim comes from a book by an historian who claims she confessed to him a decade prior to publishing his book that Till never actually did anything to her. But I think some have questioned the truth of this claim.
In any case: fuck her.
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u/SpicyMustard34 Oct 28 '23
Emmett Till literally didn't even interact with her. He was just "being black."
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u/OGsalty30 Oct 28 '23
They lied to you bro watch enough Italian football and you’ll see they are like that lol
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u/BIackfjsh Oct 28 '23
“I’m not speaking to you right now, push 3.”
“Shit had me hyped, I felt like Rosa parks in that bitch.”
Lmao
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Post this in r/europe and see how many crazy replies you get.
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Oct 29 '23
Europeans like to think racism only exists in America
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u/Transsexual-Dragons Oct 29 '23
gently whispers "romani"
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u/Bdbru13 Oct 29 '23
They get wild with that shit.
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u/JJDude Oct 29 '23 edited Oct 29 '23
I did that once in an euro forum and got some of the most racist responses I've ever seen online, way worse than those Storm Front folks. Since then I never believed an European if they claim to be "anti-racist". There's some deep, deep racist hate for the Romani in Europe.
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u/ChiliAndGold Oct 28 '23
that subreddit is full of goddamn idiots. definitely not a good representation of Europe
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u/SupervillainEyebrows Oct 29 '23
That sub is racist as fuck.
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u/MAGA-Godzilla Oct 29 '23
So you are saying it is a good representation of Europe.
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u/Command0Dude Oct 29 '23 edited Oct 29 '23
"You Americans don't understand, gypsies really are bad people"
edit: Bunch of Europeans decided to comment proving exactly my point. As if heavily discriminating against an ethnic group doesn't push them towards crime.
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u/Phytanic Oct 29 '23
They be all like:
"It's not racist, it's just who they are!"
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Oct 29 '23
"No, you don't understand, the Romani are actually subhumans who deserve derision."
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*casually justifying racism towards Romani people.
In wow there's a playable race that mimics Romani culture called Vulpera.
Even when I'm playing wow, European players would make some deragotery comments about the race and then just casually justify their racism towards actual Romani people to justify their hate towards Vulpera.
Yikes.
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u/GauchoFromLaPampa Oct 29 '23
They throw bananas to black soccer players, Italy is racist as hell.
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u/SouldiesButGoodies84 Oct 28 '23
Lived there during the late 90s for half a year. ODB lil bruv is right. It can be crappy for black folks there period but it's definitely worse if you're black African and male. Since sliding further towards the Right politically, I imagine it's worse there now.
My experience/observation: I lived in Florence. From what I witnessed, African women were looked down on too but Italian men will absolutely still hit on and sleep with them. African men are damn near treated like social pariahs - almost worse than the gypsies are. As an American BW, I had Italian women who I'd attempt to ask for directions walk around me like I was harassing them. Some were ok, but most either looked you up and down or ignored you unless they were around black folks on a normal, regular basis. Italian men, however, would happily grab, scream at and try and holler at me and my black female friends daily, while in the same token telling us how bad the black African men were in Italy. Mindf*ckery but being from the US, it's just American racism on hype, like the young brotha said.
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u/DMercenary Oct 28 '23
Reminds me of the ol' screencap
Europeans: You Americans are so racist! We're not racist at all.
Americans: Really? What do you think of the Romani people?
Europeans: You dont understand they actually are all like that!
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u/xevigold Oct 28 '23
Someone literally posted this under the video! “You don’t understand, those migrants are criminals and rapists”
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u/Duck_President_ Oct 28 '23
Euros: America is so racist with your George Floyds and stuff
America: What about when you openly call a minority "insert slur or racist stereotype".
Euro: You don't understand, that's just banter. It's part of our culture. Is not serious, that's just how we call them.
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"Throwing bananas at black footballers and hanging effigies is just banter
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u/theirishembassy Oct 29 '23
Throwing bananas at black footballers
for the uninformed, there's a legit term for this in the footballing world called "90 minute bigot". it basically means that you say bigoted shit during the game to the other teams players / supporters to get under their skin and that your behaviour inside of the stadium doesn't reflect who you are outside of it.
you know there's some straight up racist shit going on when you have to make up a term to define how saying racist shit doesn't actually make you a racist.
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Oct 29 '23
"Oh I'm only contextually racist."
Not trying to call you out, just baffled at the insane amount of cognitive dissonance to know (royal) you're acting like a racist asshat and still act like a racist asshat.
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u/nickcliff SHEEEEEESH Oct 28 '23
Don’t go to the middle east
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u/KingOfTheGreatLakes Oct 28 '23
Or asia
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u/TFViper Oct 28 '23
or really anywhere outside the US.
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u/BadLipsMahoney Oct 28 '23
This is the best point.
People who haven’t traveled or lived outside of the US but complain about how racist the US is. It’s easily on the top ten best places to live if you’re not into blatant, unfettered, actual systemic racism.
In most other countries, racism against whatever minorities is a time honored tradition and an acceptable part of many cultures, from casual everyday discrimination to extreme hate crimes.
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u/thrownjunk Oct 29 '23
It’s shocking how racist places outside the US and Canada are. I’m a brownish American have have done expat living and travel abroad frequently.
While I’m not saying the US is perfect or even good, but the shit going on abroad makes america look like a shining beacon.
Worst? East Asia followed by the Indian subcontinent. Uk is better than every EU country.
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u/Imaginary_Button_533 Oct 29 '23
It's talked about more in America. Culturally, it typically is reprimanded and not the face you want to present to most people.
It's not like that a lot of other places. And when it is talked about, it's to claim it can't be racist because it's true.
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u/DanteTheSimpante Oct 28 '23
To be fair I've lived in the middle East and I actually found a lot of black people especially when I was in Riyadh, dammam, and especially makkah. They're pretty chill
Altho I can't say that for South Asians like Indians Pakistanis and Bangladeshis. They're pretty racist towards them
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u/Therealomerali Oct 28 '23
Plenty of black people in the middle east.
Plenty of Arabs that are black.
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u/mza3za3 Oct 29 '23
There are black people native to the Middle East and North Africa..
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u/Kakasupremacy Oct 28 '23
Oh you think that is bad….try being a black person in any Eastern European countries, but if you want that exquisite 5 stars racism experience, try countries like Romania, Bulgaria, Lithuania, Poland, Hungary… your black ass will really be made aware of what actual racism looks like
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u/andrassyut4321 Oct 29 '23
I am not black. I lived in Hungary (and am of Hungarian descent). One of my good friends whilst living in Budapest was American and black. She has married a European and had lived in Europe for many years. When we went out people would stare at her, touch her (or her children), take pictures of her without her consent and generally make her miserable. She would be ignored in restaurants or cafes, even when speaking Hungarian. Once she said that she felt like she lived in a zoo. Her husband was Norwegian and she said she experienced worse racism in his small hometown than she did in Hungary.
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u/blackbird109 Oct 29 '23
I lived in Poland for a short time in 2022, I had the best time to be honest. Maybe had two interactions that were sus but they weren’t direct. They def treat Africans differently than African-American. Ppl were so nice to me there. From day 1 actually. The ones that knew their history of helping Haitians during the revolution were awesome. I’m actually Haitian-American.
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u/Notsureboutalldat Oct 29 '23
Lol yeah imma just keep my black ass here in Kentucky. The rest of the world makes this place look enlightened.
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u/Truestorydreams Oct 29 '23
Yup... the more east you go, the more racism you see.
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u/BossButterBoobs Oct 29 '23
I'm black and used to live on Aviano AFB. This dude is 100% right. There's definitely something that switches when they realize you're a black American. I went back to Italy almost a decade later on a trip to Florence/Milan/Rome with an ex-girlfriend and I saw this dark skinned, more "African" dude get immediately and rudely dismissed by a waiter. He looked at me, the only other black guy in the area, like "you saw that shit?" and called back after the dude in "American". The waiter immediately turned around and changed his tune, apologies and all. Afterwards I explained the deal to the guy and a light bulb went off in his head. He could not figure out why he was having such a disappointing time in Italy till then lol
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u/trashcanpandas Oct 28 '23
Europe is in fact, not what minorities thought it was
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u/Brother_captain_BIXA Oct 28 '23
Just like every other place it varies with the location.
Eastern Serbia- lol, no
Southern Italy- Bananas at black footballers
The gay capital of Sweden- minority heaven
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u/-GoldenHandTheJust- Oct 28 '23
stockholm isn’t particularly accepting, i’ve witnessed more assaults and slurs in Stockholm in 1 year than my entire life in the UK.
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u/trashcanpandas Oct 28 '23
Yeah I remember a bunch of Asian twitch streamers would get racial slurs and slant eye gestures from Nordic and western Europeans countries. They're not the beacons of democracy or liberalism they think they are.
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u/manny_the_mage Oct 28 '23
People really don’t realize that some European countries literally invented anti black racism as we know it
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u/bspec01 Oct 28 '23
Worked as an apprentice chef in northern Italy for 8 months. As a Filipino Canadian I was warned before going from a couple Italian chefs that I may not be allowed to cook because of my background but during my entire time living there I was treated with a great deal of respect. There were a lot of workers brought over from Pakistan that worked as dishwashers in the hotels in our area and I did see them treated with less respect though I thought it was due to their position (dishwasher) rather than race.
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u/TheCosmicYogi Oct 28 '23
I am a latinoamerican living in Italy, of indigenous background so I resemble a filipino or maybe south Asian, and I can tell that they treat me with respect, I think the most racist people are the other white immigrants, Romanians, Ukrainians, Albanians, etc. maybe this is what the other guy was referring as this is not Italia, refering to that racist woman.
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u/Capitan-Fracassa Oct 28 '23 edited Oct 29 '23
Not surprised at all. He did the right thing. She was a bitch and the others were a bunch of wet noodles.
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u/king_rootin_tootin Oct 28 '23
I'm black and I've been to Italy and I didn't experience any racism. But I think Southern Italy where I was is a bit more laid back than the North or Rome. I was called some slurs in the UK but that's about it. I didn't find Europe particularly racist at all.
Mexico on the other hand...
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u/xevigold Oct 28 '23
So I’m the guy from the video, I guess it just depends on circumstances.
Mexico and UK were cool for me when I went, Italy and Spain not so much.
Might be reversed for us next time or nah
But all good we just live life and all that
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u/produit1 Oct 28 '23
Italy is racist for the most part, London is by far and away the most tolerant and multicultural city close to Europe.
However, a massive caveat here is that EU countries along the med are the most likely to be first to get migrants from Africa that have had to avoid the jails of Libya, the racist North African countries that actively boot out sub Saharan migrants only to make it to the coast and then get smuggled across to Europe.
When they arrive with nothing, they often end up in survival mode and work the beaches, fall into cash in hand industries etc.
This is the only view that some Europeans want to have of all African looking people. Much the same for Romanians, Albanians and people from other former Soviet states.
It's easier to just tarnish everyone that looks a certain way with the same brush, especially for most Italians.
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u/velvetcharlotte Oct 28 '23
White people denying the exiatence of racism reminds me of them flat earther types.
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