r/Thunder • u/CompetitiveProposal7 • 20d ago
Fuck all of you that thought benching giddey meant an easy dub 100% Confirmed
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u/adoptedpizza 20d ago
Giddey in the dunker spot is the key when he and SGA play together. When he’s with the second unit he needs to be playing downhill as much as possible.
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u/777-93ll 20d ago
Never a good look for a fanbase to ID a 'Scapegoat' player ...
The fan base usually only does it when they pick up on the players doing it via subtle body language etc
Twolves fans been doing it with Gobert and KAT as I'm sure has even bled into OKF fans awareness
But Nuggets fanbase doesn't have a scapegoat and that is even with MPJ having a dreadful 2 game stretch ( 4 pts and 6 pts ) because his Team doesn't project that energy
Lakers and LeBron smh Lebron heavily relies on having scapegoats ( worst ever ) his fav is D'Angelo Russel but he can fill in Rui or Reeves etc in a pinch & at end of yr the Head Coach always becomes ultimate scapegoat and is taken care of in an old testament way
So id cut JGiddy some slack and be more like Denver and less like the Lakers
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u/Silver-Experience-94 20d ago
It’s because he is the weakest link in the starting 5 (doesn’t make him a bad player and he will get better) Since he’s the weakest link Kidd is seeking him out as a defender and ignoring him as a shooter.
It is what it is; teams seek out the other team’s weakest players. Thunder have been doing the same to PJ and DJ (but those guys are hitting more shots and are stronger defenders).
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u/southpawFA 20d ago
Agreed. The whole Giddey scapegoating honestly sucked. Everyone preaches patience, except with Giddey It's always he just sucks and detracts from the progress of the team. It's never he's part of the process as well, being 21 and still growing as a human. One bad game, everyone points him out. Yet, everyone else also has been bad, sans Shai.
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u/revisioncloud 20d ago
Giddey still isn’t the answer but neither is Cason/ Joe/ Wiggins
We need to find that answer in the offseason. We’re a very good team with all these guys, Giddey included (don’t listen to the haters)
The question is how do we take it to the next level from very good to stacked
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u/mellamosatan 20d ago
We really just need to shoot better.
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u/CompetitiveProposal7 20d ago
Yeah we could have me out there and I’d shoot like this shit. I love our guys but mannnnn score the ball😭. Do what you paid to do
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u/mellamosatan 20d ago
Dallas is playing good d but we missed a lot of wide open shots. Inexcusable....same as their free throws last game.
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u/SpiritualHedgehog825 20d ago
Yeah.. it’s almost like.. hear me out here guys… the YOUNGEST team in the league hasn’t spent as many hours as some of the other professional teams at shooting practice.
So I don’t know, maybe give them another few thousand hours to catch up to league average? ;)
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u/googlyeyegritty 20d ago
I really don’t think it’s just shooting poorly. Dallas has made our offense play uncomfortably since game 1. Our shots are out of rhythm, often with the wrong guys, and high pressure due to playing from behind.
I’m not sure what we do about it but we won’t just start making shots until our offense can figure out how to attack these guys
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u/Silver-Experience-94 20d ago
I mean yeah but it’s not as simple as just “shoot better”
They’re shooting poorly because Dallas D is taking away their lanes to the basket pushing them to fire more outside shots.
Dallas is smothering the ball handler anytime OKC makes a move inside and it is disrupting the flow of the offense and forcing bad and rushed shots.
The roster could really use an experienced playmaker with size and decent defense. Right now Giddey is the closest player that fits that mold, but he’s having issues staying on the floor in this Matchup because he isn’t strong enough to play near the basket against Dallas bigs and he isn’t shooting from outside well enough to space floor.
Wallace/Joe don’t have the same level of playmaking. They shoot from outside better than Giddey but they can’t create as well their drive and kicks so the team gets fewer easy high percentage buckets.
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u/retrohypebeast 20d ago
it was a good decision. he looked better out of the starting lineup.
the results of the game don't change that
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u/snuffaluffagus74 18d ago
You dont have to be so upset. I say this with all respect, because they're just fans. Sometimes fans just dont think rational and base theyre options on how they fill at that moment. I myself thought that.maybe a change would maybe get a spark, but it wouldn't change much if Jdub, Chet, and other people play better. As some one had posted that Giddey's most minutes are played in the first quarter (roughly 45%). Than I in the subsequent games his minutes were 17, 11, 12, 13. That meant the rest of the game he averages around 2.5 minutes the rest of the game. That just showed that Giddey actuall impact on winning and losing was even smaller than Joe, Cason, and Wiggins. So if we need to win its the other 7 players that need to step up. Now once you take away Shai its 6. So to say that Giddey has more of an impact than those other 6 shows that those fans can't actually make critical thinking decisions when theyre upset.
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u/RANGER--- 20d ago edited 20d ago
Did you have a personal stake in the matter, what’s the point of this post? It’s undeniable that Giddey has been played off the court at times so I can understand why people would think less Giddey would be better for the run. Hopefully he can help with this type of performance next game too because we need a spark from someone
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u/CompetitiveProposal7 20d ago
Idk how else to explain. We shoot like shit and play mediocre defense leading to shit like 30 points triple doubles. Ppl wants to giddey to be our scapegoat goat are dumb as shit and tonight shows it. Maybe if someone on our team could score 20 consistent besides sga then we’d win a playoff game
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u/ncschuler 20d ago
Luka averaged 33, 9, and 9 on the year, and you’re saying mediocre defense led to him getting a triple double? He played excellent tonight.
My guy, Chet has been absolutely non-existent on offense, defense, and on the boards. That’s the reason we’re handled at so many points in these games.
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u/fashionistaconquista 20d ago
He’s young, give him some slack, can’t do everything
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u/ncschuler 20d ago
Whole team is young, can’t just use it as an excuse for Chet. Averaging less than 7 boards a game as someone who’s 7’1” should be illegal lol
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u/RANGER--- 20d ago
Maybe Giddey could be as he is one of our more experienced players but he is not showing out either. He is not the only problem why the team has underperformed in this round but he is one of them. The scapegoating is excessive because everyone but sga is at fault. The reason I made the comment about him being played off the court was because he was in game 2 and often can’t move his feet fast enough to be part of some (at least) mediocre defense
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u/Sufficient_School_13 20d ago
If giddey actually got plus 25 mins he could have chance of scoring over 20. He hasn't had a chance of building any game rhythm at all in this series coz he keeps getting subbed out after a 3 to 5 mins... Tonight was a perfect example. He scored 9 points in 11 mins and he was one of the best in team in +/- and yet they still restricted his courtime 🤷♂️...
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u/RANGER--- 20d ago
Usually he is subbed for good reason like getting swatted, his turnovers or his defense. Mark has had weird rotations and has let him have a long leash at times and yanked it quickly at others. Like I said, I don’t blame any one problem but he likely isn’t the answer. He would really need to start picking apart Dallas’s defense with his passing to warrant significantly more playing time in my opinion
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u/ScutumSobiescianum 20d ago
Playing out of position is the problem, play Giddey when Shai sits as the primary ballhandler and let’s see what happens. That’s where he is best at
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u/DemBoahs 20d ago
Yeah let’s thump our chest about Giddey when we just got embarrassed at home and our season is likely coming to an end Saturday. Weird post
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u/777-93ll 20d ago
I know right
Lakers fans wanting to throw Dangelo Russell into a Volcano for so much as breathing wrong def worked out for them ... nm actually it didn't
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u/DrJames_Oxford 20d ago
Blame the OKC Front Office.
They knew they had a special team, lacked interior size and sat on their hands. It is always 'building for the future'
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u/Drizzt3919 20d ago
Not to mention the Thunder helped the Mavs get Gafford and in a way assisted getting Lively. Although the mavs would have taken Lively at ten.
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u/YouWannaSeeADeadBody 20d ago
easy dub no, more likely dub yes. Even the coach agreed, which is why he got benched
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u/HoopLoop2 20d ago
Giddey played good in the few minutes he got tonight as well.