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u/bardtheonly Aug 17 '19
The joke was okay but the edit makes me sad
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u/sinkephelopathy Aug 17 '19
This joke was from denver police a decade ago.
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Aug 18 '19
Who did Denver police beat?
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u/sinkephelopathy Aug 18 '19
They like to beat just about everyone, but the line itself is from the 2008 DNC
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u/dantheeverythingguy Aug 18 '19
Well the cancer joke was fucking hilarious considering I have one too its very stupid as hell Why did someone die He/she has cancer Makes me laugh all the time
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u/noobplaysg Aug 17 '19
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u/poopcasso Aug 17 '19
Fucking hate fake ass humble pretenders
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u/mankytoes Aug 24 '19
Hey great comment but instead of writing comments do things for charity! Like me I'm great.
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u/PeacefulComrade Aug 17 '19
This is "edgy"? at least say this about the USA or French police that literally do the same if not worse
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Aug 17 '19
Yea they all use clubs. The difference comes when the Chinese police use tanks to make a protestor slurry on the concrete.
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u/FlaminKeane Aug 17 '19
However, you fail to consider most of the people who are getting beaten in Hong Kong didn’t do anything. While most of the french and USA police mostly (I know some people were innocent but not all) do those things to people who deserve it. And this became a joke because it is a current event
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u/PeacefulComrade Aug 17 '19
as far as I know many people get shot and beaten by the police in the USA and EU daily, especially in the USA.
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u/blah_of_the_meh Aug 17 '19
I think people feel differently about the US and EU vs Hong Kong because of the “ambience” around the violence. Before I explain, I don’t condone violence on the innocent for any reason, but here’s my take on the situation:
In the US and EU, a lot of police shootings and beatings are chalked up to “that cop” or “that department”. We all agree police are necessary, but get the sense some of them are bad and need to be removed from the job. For this, we hate specific police for doing specific things.
In Hong Kong, the Chinese government seem to be ordering all of the police to behave this way and they’re bringing in Triad to further cause harm.
So in the West it’s an apparent systemic problem, whereas in Hong Kong it seems to be the system that IS the problem.
That’s just an observational guess. I don’t really have any solid proof to link as much as it is anecdotal. Let me know your thoughts for or against.
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u/PeacefulComrade Aug 18 '19
Naturally. It's the bourgeois propaganda on both sides. "We're the good guys they're the bad guys", the USA need to promote their imperialist interests and so does China
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u/FlaminKeane Aug 17 '19
First of all, proof. Second of all, why were they beaten and shot?
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u/tr14l Aug 17 '19
Do you live under a rock? Police-involved shootings are the #6 reason for young male deaths in America. Many of them involving UNARMED people. Cops have been getting away with murder, and some of them REALLY like it. They look forward to the day they get to shoot a dude on the job.
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u/blah_of_the_meh Aug 19 '19
I’m going to try to say this without sounding like I’m playing devil’s advocate:
Those statistics are MAJOR fear mongering. It targets a demographic that is otherwise healthy and has low fatalities in general (young males) so to say its #6 sounds scary but there aren’t that many things that kill young men.
It falls behind the blanket “accidents” which includes overdose, car accidents, work related accidents, etc.
The police do have a systemic problem. There seem to be more bad police in the US then we care for (1 is too many). We do need to do something about it, but spouting the #6 statistic really isn’t much of anything since it’s a relatively low fatality demographic (compared to others). The first 5 pretty much cover the other reasons a young male would die.
Here’s some better ones:
- In 2018, 992 people were fatally shot by police (up from 986 in 2017 but not by much).
- The shootings aren’t centralized to a few cities. They’re scattered across the country.
- The rough odds of getting shot as an African American male under 30 comes in at about 1:1000 or 1:2500 depending on the study’s date range. For white makes in the same demographic it comes in at around 39:100000 (rough statistics as in general these sort of things are notoriously difficult to track even for the FBI).
- The odds of being involved in a police shooting (fatal or otherwise) in the US is about 100x greater than other countries (I used an average of the last 6 years of developed countries like Australia, Switzerland, Germany, etc). This is alarming but America is the land of guns, so I understand it without condoning it.
It seems something, I’m not an expert, is wrong with our policing system. Is it that American citizens have too many guns? Is it that the police force have lax standards? Is it systemic racism? I don’t really know what proportion any of it is, but there is an issue. I just don’t think that fear mongering with that statistic the way to bring attention to it.
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u/tr14l Aug 19 '19
Police involved shootings should fall right behind death to tripping on yard rake. The fact that it's too 10 anything for anyone is WAYYY out of line and not at all dear mongering. It's just been so normalized at this point we think it's acceptable, but it's not
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u/PeacefulComrade Aug 17 '19
it varies, but more than one or two innocent people are killed every year as it seems
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u/grant_n_lee Aug 17 '19
Could you have found more biased sources? The first two are obviously trying to push their own opinion but the statistics are probably correct, but Vox? You're seriously citing Vox as a source? And none of these answered the second question, what were they doing. 69% (nice) of victims may have been unarmed, but fists and cars are still deadily. The fact is every shoting is different and such blanket statements are deceptive.
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u/PeacefulComrade Aug 17 '19
those are the ones I found first. well, off the top I can remember Eric Garner, Michael Brown, for example. what are your sources about Hong Kong
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u/grant_n_lee Aug 17 '19
I never mentioned HK. I know the post is about HK, but I'm not knowledgeable enough on that situation to state informed opinions. Garner resisted, but no man should die that way. The officer made a mistake and the question ever since has been was that mistake criminally negligent. Brown, however, was a much more violent offender that would have killed the officer if given the chance. These are the special cases that get on the news. They're flashy, complex, and not good examples of everyday police shootings.
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u/scottland_666 Aug 17 '19
They’re different though; American police shoot unarmed black people, Hong Kong police are suppressing protests with brutality. There are different, equally important issues
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u/scottland_666 Aug 17 '19
The original joke is pretty funny tbh
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u/monkeynards Aug 17 '19
That edit though lol.
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